Bye Bye Pro-White, White Advocate Movement

The entire White nationalist blogosphere is cheering themselves to a multihour orgasm now that their White oligarchs, plutocrats and corporate slavemasters have won a smashing victory over the White working class.
If there was ever a reason to tell the White advocate and pro-White movement to fuck off, this is it.
I am no longer a White advocate or pro-White, because 99% of people like that are far rightwing racist shits. Sure, I like being White, but so what? White politics is shit, and White ethnic politics is one of the most revolting spectacles in all of Creation.
You’re down with pro-White and White advocacy? Fine, you can have it. Goosestep on over to the Cause, my fellow White serf, and don’t forget to salute your feudal Lords in the Republican Party.

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  1. Yes Bob, better throw in our lot with the blacks, hispanics and others and fuck-off the plutocrat vampires.
    Perhaps the taboo against whites ‘race-mixing’ (ie marrying and having children with the ethnics), will in time break down completely, so that America’s intractable and insoluble ‘race proble’ will fade out in a brown mass.
    But I fear that the plutocracy will get WORSE under this Brazilian type ‘solution’ as the plutocrats will resolutely refuse to race-mix.
    Anyway, methinks Latinas and Asians rather cute, and envy Bob with his rainbow cornucopia of mating partners.

  2. Robert whites in America continue to vote those who swindle them, your right. But what is a white man to do? I can’t throw in my lot with white America because its too stupid but nor can I go along with the non-whites either because they are stuck on hate white-ee mode.

  3. If you’re around a lot of regular white people, you’ll realize that, for them, there is really no alternative way of thinking to Right Wing Republicanism. Liberal dems are just as far outside of the universe of acceptable thought as Marxist Leninists or Wahabi Muslims. The typical regular white person hardly ever meets liberal dems, much less considers becoming one.

  4. More: The typical white person listens to Rush or Glenn for *information,* not a point of view. And this includes women, so if you’re going to talk about “stupid white men” you’ve got to talk about “dumb white broads” as well.

  5. @ Patrick
    Robert whites in America continue to vote those who swindle them, your right. But what is a white man to do? I can’t throw in my lot with white America because its too stupid but nor can I go along with the non-whites either because they are stuck on hate white-ee mode.
    Excellent comment, Patrick. This is indeed a conundrum. On the one hand, I don’t like the politics adhered to by the majority of whites (ie. Republican politics).
    Interestingly enough, you’ll note that many white nationalists aren’t exactly fond of Republicans either.
    http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2010/11/02/dont-get-too-excited-about-the-election-results-folks/
    Anyway, I hate this big business, globalism, invade the world invite the world mentality of Republicans. In this sense, there’s no way I can vote with the majority of whites. Besides, as James Edwards points out, Republicans are just as bad as Democrats (from a pro-white point of view) with regards to many racial and cultural issues.
    But at the same time, as Patrick points out, I cannot throw my lot in with leftists and non-whites either because they are stuck on stick it to Y-T mode. And as Robert himself points out (a while back), the left is anti-white and anti-male, and in order to be accepted by the left, you essentially have to hate/flagellate yourself.
    So what’s an economically progressive, anti-Republican (which is what most whites vote for) white nationalist like me to do?
    Honestly speaking, nothing!
    I know some might attack me as politically apathetic and representative of what’s wrong with this country, but I followed the lead of Family Guy’s Brian Griffin and didn’t vote!

    1. Oh yes, I definitely would vote for A3P if they were on the ballot!
      Republicans are pro-corporate, greedy pigs who at the same time are not entirely different from liberals with regards to cultural issues, as James Edwards has documented extensively.
      Democrats are anti-white wimps who kiss black and brown ass and, while not nearly as extreme as the counterpunch crowd, are part of the same Cultural Marxist/diversity camp.
      And, push comes to shove, they’re not too economically or educationally progressive either.
      My dad, who’s a teacher, won’t likely support Obama in the primaries because Obama has pushed a traditionally right wing education policy.
      Also, the Democrats, while giving lip service to fighting greed and inequality, do NOTHING to challenge outsourcing, insourcing, corporate power, etc.
      As the counterpunch crowd would point out (and I rarely agree with counterpunch!), Obama and other Democratic leaders go along with corporate power and special interests just like everyone else.
      Conclusively, even though I’m a white nationalist (or probably because of it), I hate the Republicans and agree with you that, at least politically speaking, the majority of white people suck.
      But at the same time, there’s NO WAY I’m joining the Democrats or left, because they’re anti-white, anti-male, and push comes to shove, they’re not very progressive economically or educationally, where it really matters.
      What to do, what to do? How to escape from this conundrum?

    2. You guys are talking about the Democratic Party like it’s the Black Panther Party. God Lord. What the hell is so “anti-white” and “sticking it to whitey” about the very mainstream Democratic Party? And don’t say immigration because both parties are pretty much the same on that. Don’t say affirmative action either as that is up to the Supreme Court.

      1. Also, I think the Democratic Party is more ideologically diverse. You have everything from conservative Democrats to left-wing Democrats and many moderates in between. Some want taxes raised, some want them lowered.
        But where are the liberal Republicans? How many are even moderates? How many Republicans will say anything but “cut taxes” as their cut and paste solution to any problem that arises?
        When you WNs talk about the Dems as being the party of “anti-white”, assuming there’s any truth to that in the first place, that would only come from the far left-wing of the Democratic tent. Not all Democrats occupy that space.

        1. Tulio, you’ll note that I pointed out that, at least from a WN perspective, the Republicans aren’t much better than Democrats with regards to issues of immigration and other racial/cultural issues.
          Though with regards to affirmative action, Democrats are the ones who generally push it, and it’s the liberal Democrats of the Supreme Court who vote in favor of affirmative action.
          Also, there’s Bill Clinton going on and on about how diversity is such a wonderful thing and how we want to become a mixed and diverse nation.
          As I learned a while back, all “diversity” means is non-white. “We need/want more diversity” is simply left wing speak for “we need fewer white people.”
          And then there’s Harry Reid comparing opposition to Obama’s health care plan to support for slavery.
          You know, little things like that. Pandering to blacks and diversity every now and then, which to me is ipso facto anti-white.
          But of course, as The Political Cesspool has documented quite well, the Republicans are also playing the diversity/pandering game, so in my book they’re not much better.
          And of course, none of this touches on economic, educational, and foreign policy, of which both parties are rather naughty in this regard.
          So yes, I think it’s safe to say that I hate both parties.

        2. And yes, Tulio, I know that there are anti-affirmative action, conservative Democrats.
          I know that most Democrats are not counterpunchers.
          (most counterpunchers don’t even vote Democrat)
          But the Democratic party (and by this I mean its primary LEADERSHIP, not necessarily its voters) does accept many of the fundamental leftist tenets that are pushed by the far left.
          Ie. “equality,” “diversity,” “racism,” etc.
          Sure, they may disagree on some of the specifics, but to me, they’re fundamentally on the same team.
          Also, just so you know, Tulio, the fact that blacks overwhelmingly vote in favor of Democrats doesn’t exactly make me love the party.
          Somehow, I just find something a teensy bit wrong about voting for the same party as blacks.
          Something just tells me that black interests aren’t the same as mine.
          Just a hunch.

        3. If the best reason you can come with not to vote Democrat is because blacks vote Democrat, then not only is that racism, but it is psychotic racism. You might as well say I’m not voting Dem because most environmentalist vote Dem. Or because most teachers and professors vote Dem, or because most users of Apple products vote Dem, or because most rockers vote Dem. You single out one group you don’t like(for psychological reasons) and throw everything out the window about that party because one group you don’t like votes for them. That is just sick to me.
          As for Clinton’s rhetoric of diversity, I think it’s strategic. Nothing is going to stop the U.S. from becoming a non-white nation. We don’t even have the political will to stop illegal immigration, which is ILLEGAL, we sure as hell aren’t going to stop LEGAL immigration. So the Democratic party can either embrace this new reality and make the best of it, or it can behave like the Republican party and Southern Strategists. Which do you think is more pragmatic to ensure your party’s future given that nothing is going to stop non-whites from immigrating and having kids at a higher rate than whites?
          My point is that the Democratic party, whether you like their “diversity” message or not is simply acting rationally and in its own interests. Because whether you like it or not, this nation WILL become like Brazil in the next 50 years. There’s no stopping it. Where I live, it already is.

        4. Tulio, I hardly said that it was the ONLY reason.
          I’m just saying that psychologically speaking, I’m not comfortable with supporting a party that is so heavily supported by blacks.
          And sorry, but blacks are not just another neutral group like environmentalists, rockers, etc.
          With regards to Brazil, that’s just wonderful, isn’t it?
          Well, I’ve said it before, but this country is indeed becoming a 3rd world country, if Brazil is indeed where we’re headed.
          (Sorry to insult your country, Thad. Not that you care. I know you don’t have a high opinion of the U.S. either, which is fine)
          And yeah, most Brazilian women aren’t these ultra sexy divas, contrary to popular stereotypes.
          So no, forgive me if I’m not exactly looking forward to this Brazilian future.
          And hey, if the rest of this country can follow Arizona’s example, we could potentially avert this future.
          I’ve also noticed that this whole “this is going to happen whether you like it or not” is a standard trick used by the left.
          In other words, don’t try to do anything about it, because there’s nothing you can do. It’s a psychological tactic employed to make whites feel helpless and weak, thus rendering them incapable of fighting back.
          We’re (white people) not dead yet, Tulio. I know you and your ilk eagerly await our demise, but patience, as the Jedi would say!

        5. Oh, and with regards to Democrats just doing what they see as in their strategic interests, there’s something they need to realize.
          If and when non-whites take over, do you think these white Democrats who promote diversity are going to continue to get elected?
          Nope.
          Non-whites will vote for their own non-white Democratic politicians.
          So yes, white Democrats, continue to support non-whites and diversity. Little do you know that you’re sowing the seeds of your future displacement.
          If they think that THEY (ie. white Democrats) are going to get elected in the future, they’re crazy.

        6. @Tulio
          the leftist establishment in this country goes on and on about white privilege while it simultaneously screws over the working class white. Its disgusting. The left should be trying to help the working classes.

        7. Good point, Patrick.
          Democrats always rail about how working class whites “vote against their class interests,” and yet what the hell are they doing for them?
          The left hasn’t done crap to improve the lives of white workers (ie. it’s done nothing to stop outsourcing, open borders, corporate welfare, etc) and yet it continues to go on about how “privileged” they are.
          Why in the hell SHOULD they vote Democrat?
          And Tulio, since you’re appalled by my supposedly psychotic opposition do Democrats, tell me WHY I SHOULD support the Democrats?

        8. “We’re (white people) not dead yet, Tulio. I know you and your ilk eagerly await our demise, but patience, as the Jedi would say!”
          Huh? Where have I ever wished demise on white people or any race? I’m only stating the reality. That America will become non-white and eventually have a huge mixed race population like Brazil. I took neither a pro or anti view on this future, I’m simply stating it for what it is.
          You mention Arizona, but the effective parts of the immigration bill(which if you recall I supported even more than YOU did) were gutted. Both the left and the right(except for the nativist wing of the right) don’t want to do anything on immigration and will viciously oppose anyone that does using the courts. The Republicans alienate non-white voters so where are they going to go?
          So tell me BAG, why do you think most blacks vote Democrat? Or to put it a better way, why would blacks benefit from voting Republican? And btw, I’m neither. I’m a centrist independent with views that range from left to right depending on the issue. I voted or both Democrats and Republicans yesterday as I vote for the individual, not the party.
          “If they think that THEY (ie. white Democrats) are going to get elected in the future, they’re crazy.”
          Huh? Then explain why every president of Mexico is white in a country that is overwhelmingly non-white? This is also the case in basically every Latin-American country except Bolivia and Venezuela. How is that?? Why haven’t all these mestizos and Indians and blacks in Latin America teamed up and only voted for non-white candidates?
          “the leftist establishment in this country goes on and on about white privilege while it simultaneously screws over the working class white. Its disgusting. The left should be trying to help the working classes.”
          Your problem here is that you are using “leftist establishment”(whatever that means) as interchangeable with the Democratic Party(which has a wide range of opinion). What democratic elected official rails about “white privilege?” Please name some examples because I’m not aware of any. Sure Tim Wise does, but what office does he hold?
          “And Tulio, since you’re appalled by my supposedly psychotic opposition do Democrats, tell me WHY I SHOULD support the Democrats?”
          I’m not telling you to vote Democrat. I don’t tell people who they should vote for.

        9. Then explain why every president of Mexico is white in a country that is overwhelmingly non-white? This is also the case in basically every Latin-American country except Bolivia and Venezuela. How is that?? Why haven’t all these mestizos and Indians and blacks in Latin America teamed up and only voted for non-white candidates?
          That is a good question, and it deserves an answer.
          What you say is true in many ways. As someone who has been to Latin America (Mexico, Costa Rica, and Peru) on several occasions, what you say regarding whites being the elites in those countries and frequently getting elected president is spot-on.
          Vicente Fox immediately comes to mind in this regard.
          But, there are a couple of problems.
          1) The Latin American definition of whiteness is very different from the U.S. definition. By this, I mean that it’s more liberal. If you look white and are middle class/well educated, you’ll be accepted as white, regardless of ancestry.
          Therefore, people we would consider non-white in the U.S. might be considered white down there.
          The implication of this means that rather than rejecting white people and adopting non-white identity politics, they might instead try to identify with whiteness.
          2) Rather than reject whiteness, non-whites in Latin America probably feel that they can somehow reach “mixed” or even “white” status with time.
          Unlike in the U.S., which has the One Drop Rule, down there non-whites probably feel like they can escape.
          Okay, that’s the long answer.
          In a nutshell, I don’t think you can really compare U.S. race relations to Latin America.
          I highly doubt that a white man will be elected president in the U.S. when the population is majority non-white, like it is in most Latin American countries.

        10. You mention Arizona, but the effective parts of the immigration bill(which if you recall I supported even more than YOU did) were gutted. Both the left and the right(except for the nativist wing of the right) don’t want to do anything on immigration and will viciously oppose anyone that does using the courts.
          Lol! The bold part is indeed true. You are good at keeping track of what I say.
          My main problem with the law had nothing to do with moral or ideological reasons, but practical reasons.
          The law has too many legal holes and is too vulnerable to logistic booby traps. There could have been a much better law.
          And yeah, I grant your point that not much will be done. Neither party is willing to make that step.
          With regards to Republicans alienating non-whites, well, it’s a little too late for that.
          Short of completely changing their platform, they’ll NEVER win over large numbers of non-whites (in spite of the 44% of Hispanics who voted for Bush in 2004).
          They could have had a chance with Hispanics and Asians, but that’s coming to an end. And I highly doubt that they’ll EVER win over blacks.
          I’ve said this before, but they might as well go all in as an explicitly white party and try to reel in their natural base, which has grown increasingly alienated.
          And I’m not saying that blacks have a good reason to vote Republican or to NOT vote Democrat.
          I just think that white Democrats should reconsider. Democrats are not white peoples’ friends. Not by a long shot.
          Of course, neither are Republicans, which is where this conundrum comes in.

        11. Many are concerned about the demographic and cultural Hispanicization of the US. It’s a big change that surely carries major costs and benefits. Who knows what the future holds? But I have to say that the future of the US seems brighter than that of Europe. Most Latinos do not fit the traditional American definition of white, but they are a (quasi-)Western people. From my perspective, that’s preferable to being demographically swamped by Muslims with their affinity for Shariah Law, as is happening with France, Holland, and other Western European states.

      2. I guess one could argue that many of the Muslims pouring into Europe are the “original whites” based on abstract genetic studies, but I tend to think that cultural orientation is more important than allele frequencies.

  6. One major Tea Party candidate who won a Senate seat, Rand Paul, is the one who openly suggested that there could be a difference between private and government acts of discrimination.
    That someone who actually said that got elected, suggests that at least the debate could be opening up.

    1. Yeah, but 99% of pro-White types and White advocates think that’s a debate worth having , because they want to get rid of the Civil Rights Act. IOW, they’re racist assholes.
      I look in the mirror and I like what I see. I’m White and I like that. White culture, White people, are ok. They’re my people and my culture. If getting rid of the Civil Rights Act is what being pro-White or being a White advocate is all about, well they can just stick it. I’d honestly rather hang out with these illegals than White people like that!
      That’s not even a debate worth having. Hey, let’s sit around and discuss whether we should get rid of the Civil Rights Act. Huh? That’s a reasonable subject for debate? It’s about as reasonable as debating, “Hey, let’s have a debate about whether or not your Mom’s a whore.” Most reasonable people wouldn’t want to debate that, and any decent person wouldn’t want to debate the Civil Rights Act either.

      1. I agree with that.
        But whether “diversity” and “affirmative action” have run their course IS a debate I think we’ll have soon.
        The fact of Obama’s election refutes the “America is such a deeply racist country that it can’t even see how racist it is” argument.

        1. Obama’s election didn’t mean racism magically disappeared. What it meant is that there are now enough non-whites in America that can vote in unison and enough liberal whites(though still the minority) to overwhelm conservative whites. I’d say that we live in two Americas. One that is becoming increasingly more racist and divisive, the nation of the Tea Party and the other with a more progressive vision.

        2. tulio writes, One that is becoming increasingly more racist and divisive, the nation of the Tea Party and the other with a more progressive vision.
          That’s your opinion.

        3. The fact of Obama’s election refutes the “America is such a deeply racist country that it can’t even see how racist it is” argument.
          The last two years of constant speculation about Obama’s nationality, religion, “socialism”, “hatred for white people”, and so on, has PROVED the “America is such a deeply racist country that it can’t even see how racist it is” argument.

      2. I’ve always argued that the government has no business engaged in any form of discrimination. But I’ve similarly argued that private citizens and small, privately owned businesses should be able to do as they please.
        The problem with the Civil Rights Act is the same as with most legislation. It eventually morphs into something it was never intended to be. And over the last 45+ years it has evolved from being a tool that opposes discrimination into a tool that imposes discrimination. My two objections are, first, that any disparity is treated as discrimination when it’s not. And, second, it’s too often treated as the private property of “minorities” rather than a law that protects the rights of everyone.

  7. I think you’ll find very few WNs or WAs who truly believe in the Republican party, but the vast majority does see them as the lesser of two evils. I wasn’t too happy about voting Republican (my earlier post on it was tongue in cheek) but my biggest reason basically boiled down to the fact that my Dem incumbent is pretty open borders (rated D+ by Numbers USA) and the Republican should be at least almost-mediocre if he does what he’s promised to do.
    As far as economics goes, I think the US system is broken and unsustainable, and neither party is willing to do the long term change necessary to fix it– but immigration restriction is one point that helps at least a bit, even though the problem of immigration is already almost beyond repair.

  8. “What to do , what to do ? How to escape from this conundrum?” an American BNP? The A3P is based out of California, what do you think of them?

    1. Yes, I do have a high opinion of A3P.
      I also like the BNP, the Sweden Democrats, Jean Marie Le Pen, and other European nationalists/nationalist parties.
      I wish them all the best of success.

  9. Are you a fan of Geert Wilders? Hes a Zionist, pro-LGBT rights and gay marriage, and pro-feminist, and very liberal. But he hates Islam, and managed to cut “non-Western” (non-white) immigration in half, he advocates recording the ethnicity of all criminals, and is anti-multiculturalism, and wants to deport immigrants, especially non-Europeans, who dont assimiliate. Have you met with any A3P people? Why dont they try to get on the ballot? What are their major positions?

    1. I do like Geert Wilders.
      While not exactly thrilled about his Zionism or feminism (what’s your source for his feminism?), he’s pro-white and is opposed to non-white immigration and multiculturalism, which makes him fine by me.
      Also, he’s done what most American WN’s haven’t been able to do: WIN

  10. The pro-white movement seems somewaht divided on the victory but its pretty moronic to cheer on the republicans when they dispised them for the whole Bush era. some of these new tea party candidates are an improvement on immigration but other than that most support a pro-corporate neoliberal agenda of free trade and deregulation of the financial sector. I can understand your sentiments but why would any sane white person want to be a minority even if a lot of whites are morons no sane group would want to be a minority. The elites want mass third world immigration and a more multi-racial America to divide an conquer the masses.

  11. The future of the country is headed into a police state ruled by a small financial oligarchy but it doesn’t matter a dimes differnece whether republicans or democrats are in power.

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