There is a debate going on in the comments between me and a Black nationalist type over organized versus unorganized violence:
Africanblackmilitant:Yes of course, whites are NEVER violent and aggressive. After all, it was us black people who kidnapped, enslaved, beat, raped and terrorized whites for hundreds of years. It was us blacks who, stole land in the Americas and Australia from the native folks and nearly wiped them out in the process.
White folks weren’t the aggressors and participants of the two most violent wars in the history of mankind thanks to modern technologies. YES!!
It is us blacks who tried to wipe out an entire ethnic-religious group and murdered 6 million of them in concentration camps and another 5 million who we didn’t like for various reasons. We black folks invented guns, the nuclear bomb, the hydrogen bomb, fighter jets, and all sorts of other weapons of mass destruction. OH WAIT, I’m sorry, I have that backwards! Now who is more violent and destructive?
RL: Organized violence and disorganized violence. Two different things.
Oh right. I bomb your city which blows your family apart. But not to worry I’m sure you will feel happier when you bury your mom, dad or kids knowing that they died in an organized way.
Listen to yourself. Your trying claim that there is hierarchy in death, in killing someone.
Sure, Whites have committed high levels of Organized Violence in the past, and some of them continue to do so now. But Organized Violence does not necessarily affect me, nor does it affect most people in this country. And in many places, Whites are committing no Organized Violence.
Most groups fight wars from time to time you know. I doubt Whites are more warlike than Blacks. They just had better technology so they could kill more people more easily. If Blacks had the same tech, they would have done the same or worse.
Blacks commit high levels of both Organized and Unorganized Violence. There are many more wars in the past 20 years in Africa than in White nations. Compare Africa to Europe over the past 20 years. So many wars in Africa. So few in Europe.
Black Unorganized Violence is continuous, and no one escapes from it. It’s found in most places where there are large numbers of Blacks. It affects both them and other races.
Here in California there are White towns. There are also places where there are many Blacks. There is no Organized Violence in either place. US Whites are committing some overseas, but that does not affect me if I go live in some White town in California. In the White towns, there is little Unorganized Violence. It’s very peaceful. You often don’t even lock your car or house.
But if I go live in that Black town, I will have to deal with a lot of Unorganized Violence all the time. That’s going to have a real and direct effect on me, whereas White (and Black) Organized Violence in say Afghanistan has no affect on me.
A society with low levels of Unorganized Violence but spurts of Organized Violence can be dealt with. The Organized Violence only comes once in a while, and you may well survive it. In between, you will have decades of very peaceful calm in your communities with little to worry about from Unorganized Violence.
Organized Violence is compatible with civilization.
Unorganized Violence is not. It destroys the very fabric of civilized life.