The Jew Beats the White Man with the Nigger Stick

This is the anti-Semitic lie, common among White racists and especially White nationalists, that Bay Area Guy is promoting in the comments section.

I’m quite sure that’s it’s a bunch of lies.

The line goes like this: Jews promoted civil rights for Blacks for the reason of dividing the White race, unseating them from power and taking the White Gentiles’ place as the head of the US elite.

Bullshit.

We must remember that deep into the 1950’s and even the 1960’s there was institutionalized discrimination against Jews in many places in the US. Many hotels did not let Jews stay there. There were signs in parks and on beaches saying No Jews or Dogs Allowed.

The Jews probably promoted civil rights not just for Blacks but for themselves. The Civil Rights Act banned most overt and de jure discrimination, not just against Blacks, but against anyone. Surely Jews benefited from this. Jews had been very active in the US Communist movement for a long time. The Communists had long pushed civil rights before anyone else did as a way to get the Blacks to support Communism. Also the USSR was promoting the notion that the capitalist West, led by the US, was racist and therefore evil. It was a propaganda war.

Jews always oppose any racism in the White Christian Diaspora. Racism there is bad for the Jews, since such racism usually targets Jews at some point or another. Many of the Jews involved in the civil rights movement were young idealistic Jews in college or fresh out of college. Hardly conniving political operatives.

Sure, Jews were the first to move out of the neighborhood when the Blacks moved in, as Malcolm X states. In some cases, it was surely true. Most sane people don’t want to live with a bunch of Blacks. Hell, even sane Blacks don’t want to live with a bunch of Blacks. Sane Africans don’t want to live in Africa. As soon as they get some money, they scoot off the to West.

But Malcolm’s accusation is not true in many cases.

In many places, especially large cities back East where there were large numbers of Jews such as Detroit and New York, Jews stayed in their neighborhoods while large numbers of Blacks moved in. The Blacks caused the usual crime and trouble they usually do in large numbers, and many Jews were victimized. In particular, many older Jews kept living in these neighborhoods, and they were hammered hard by Black criminals.

The upshot was an increase in racism among Jews from these cities as into the 1970’s. This is the rift that Cornel West confronts in his lecture series, Jews and Blacks, Let the Healing Begin. John Podhoretz of Commentary Magazine wrote a famous essay along the same lines, My Negro Problem and Ours, which is frankly one of the canonical works of early Liberal Race Realism, though no one called it that yet. This rift is also what helped create the neoconservatives.

The worst racists I knew in the 1970’s were Jews who had come from Detroit and New York. They had a shocking vicious and visceral hatred for Blacks that was the worst I had ever seen in anyone.

BAG’s theory is just wrong. More White nationalist bullshit and lies.

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45 thoughts on “The Jew Beats the White Man with the Nigger Stick”

  1. Bob,
    You said that Jews suffered ‘discrimination’ in pre 1960s America.
    Generally, Jews are pretty much physically indistinguishable from the general mass of white Americans, so just how did hotels, parks and beaches discriminate against Jews?
    Just curious, it’s not like the custodians of parks, beaches etc know that a potential patron’s surname is ‘Goldberg’ or ‘Katz’ or whatever.

      1. I’m sorry, but you’re simply exaggerating things.

        Were there residential communities that prohibited Jews through deed restrictions? Yes. Hotels? None that I know of. Beaches? I’ve never heard this one in my life.

        The best Jews have is places like Harvard restricted their numbers so as they wouldn’t take over the place, as they have done.

        For the most part, established German Jews in the US were quite wealthy compared to everyone else, and particularly in comparison with their Eastern brothers. It is of note that places like the Harmonie Club in Manhattan remained, and still largely remains, exclusively for German Jews until private clubs fell under the PC axe in the 1980s.

        Free association was once a staple of America, just as Jews generally do not want outsiders living in their neighborhoods, or their country.

  2. Another thing Bob, you claimed that ‘parks’ discriminated against Jewish patrons.
    If by ‘park’ you mean the traditional meaning of ‘park’ (ie a piece of common uncultivated ground used for public recreation), and not the newer usage (ie short for ‘ball’ or ‘amusement’), then by definition all parks are publicly owned and maintained by national or local government. tHere is no such thing as a private park.
    Surely if park wardens or rangers or whatever discriminated entry of adult Americans on physical appearance alone this would have been slapped down immediatey as unconstitutional.

    1. Not at all. Discrimination by municipalities was legal back then. Anyway, go ask the Jews. They are the ones talking about the “No Jews or Dogs” signs on the East Coast in the 1950’s.

      One more thing:

      Your tone is really starting to piss me off.

      Consider this a warning.

      One more, and it’s bye bye.

      1. Can you give me a single documented example of a ‘No Jews, no dogs’ sign?

        All I am doing is trying to get factual evidence for an assertion – something that all good journalists are supposed to do.
        I regret if I’m ‘pissing you off’, as you put it – but if you are to maintain credibility it is important to deal in quotable facts – and not opinions.
        This is the first rule of journalism, something drummed into every journalism student on their first day at college.

  3. A Jewish friend of mine told me that a well known East Coast beach resort town actually started letting blacks stay there before they allowed Jews. Also, it is important to realize this was mostly before all white Americans looked and acted more or less the same.

  4. I’m not being pedantic, but I have a hard time believing that any park in the USA ever turfed people out because they ‘looked Jewish’ – whatever that means.
    What does it mean – anyone with dark hair, swarthy skin and a large nose was turned away with menaces by your friendly neighborhood park keeper? – Not even the nazi Germans stooped that low.
    Anyhow, as I said before, how do you distinguish Jewish Americans from Gentiles on sight?
    If I didn’t know better, I would have judged George W. Bush as a Jew, for instance, but apparently he’ s pure wasp.
    I’ve heard of country clubs denying membership to Jews, but that’s a different kettle of fish entirely.

  5. Hi Robert

    I’ll try not to piss you off, but I have to disagree with you. I know your a commie and don’t like reactionaries like Solzenitzen, but I think Sozenitzen was on mark when he discribes how Jews were able to pull the plug on the Russian empire, by using the animus of the non-Russian inmates in that “prison house of nations” against the native Russians.

    During the 20’s were a man to say I am a Russian it was the same as if he were to say I am a reactionary according to Solzenitzen. Judao-Bolsheveks were able to pile up slavic corpses like cork wood, because they convienced all non Russians that Russians were the cause of there discontent.

    When Jews celibrate in the street when the Israeli airforce drops napalm on Palistinain kids, it makes a mockery of there involvement in the civil rights movement. It’s just another example of the tried and true devide and conquer section of the genocidal Jewish playbook. Just one of the many steps neccessary to make the age old Jewish wet dream of purim a reality.

    What makes the Jews truely ” a people who dwell apart” is after they genocide a people they view it as an acomplishment.

    It was uneccessary to slaughter Hamman’s followers after the Hebrew Harlot Esther spread her lies and legs, in order to remove Mordicai’s rival, but the Jews slaughtered Hammons people for fun and because the could. And so to with the October revolution. The February revolution rendered tzardom kaput and put a socialist in the Kremlin, but the socialist Russian Kerensky was not what the Jews wanted. They pulled off the October revolution, so that Judaism’s destructive principle could run amuck and allow them to kill Russians. They never would have been able to accomplish this had they not harnessed the resentment of the empires minorities.

  6. Whatever, Robert.

    All I know is that they certainly didn’t help blacks out of any love for blacks. They did it solely for themselves.

    1. Your average human is not a cynical, lying, Karl Rove poltical operative shaped like a snake.

      Human beings are a lot better than you White nationalists think, BAG.

      Most people, most groups, do most everything for their own benefit, not out of altruism. Fundamental law of psychology.

      1. Most people, most groups, do most everything for their own benefit, not out of altruism. Fundamental

        Well, thank you for at least admitting that.

        Human beings are a lot better than you White nationalists think, BAG.

        Well, now that’s up for debate, isn’t it?

        I happen to agree with Machiavelli regarding human nature.

        I think the problem with many lefties is that they buy into this underlying presumption that humans are naturally noble creatures, and that it’s only wicked society that corrupts them.

        Well, if they were so good, they wouldn’t have created those evil societies IN THE FIRST PLACE.

        Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

        1. So a bunch of Jews sat around and said, hey, let’s play the Blacks and Whites off against each other, push civil rights for Blacks to undermine the Whites, then displace the Whites from the top and take over their position at the elite?

          Not only that, but every idealistic young Jew who worked on civil rights was in on the conspiracy.

          Jews had a bunch of reasons to push civil rights. This was not one of them. Guaranteed.

          Where do you guys come up with this shit?

        2. So a bunch of Jews sat around and said, hey, let’s play the Blacks and Whites off against each other, push civil rights for Blacks to undermine the Whites, then displace the Whites from the top and take over their position at the elite?

          Hey, I cannot read minds.

          But all I know is that while they may not have necessarily been thinking that, that’s what they indeed did.

          They have become the new elite ever since the Civil Rights movement.

          Jews had a bunch of reasons to push civil rights. This was not one of them. Guaranteed.

          Where do you guys come up with this shit?

          All I know is that Jews were not truly sincere about being friends of blacks, as Malcolm X pointed out.

          The more Jews could focus white peoples’ attention on blacks, then the less whites would focus on them. So essentially, yes, Jews were using blacks as a buffer, a stick, if you will.

          And as Derrick Bell points out in “The Space Traders,” the Jews deep down opposed the trade not out of any love for blacks, but because they feared that is blacks were gone, they’d be the newest scapegoats.

          Okay, perhaps they don’t use blacks as a “stick,” but they certainly use them as a buffer. They use them as a weapon, or at least a wall, against whites.

          And this isn’t just a WN interpretation, but in many ways a black one as well.

          Now are there truly idealistic young Jews who care about blacks? Sure, I’ll grant that.

          But that’s not the case for most Jews engaged in Civil Rights posturing.

    1. Malcolm X was a radical nut. He spent most of his life hating Whites. That’s why he’s famous. He was also a Black separatist. Persona non grata in my book.

      If Malcolm said it, it must be right.

      Only reason White nationalists like this guy is because he agreed with their view that Whites and niggers should not be forced to live together. Progressive fellow! Not.

    2. Actually, you’d be surprised to know that the quote I posted by Malcolm X about Jews came after his pilgrimage to Mecca.

      While he was still a black nationalist, he ceased being a super radical separatist, stopped viewing whites and Jews in essentialist terms, and affirmed the brotherhood of man.

      Sure, he was still a fiery black nationalist, and he didn’t exactly have any love for integration.

      But he’s not the simple man you make him out to be.

      When he said what he said about Jews, he was just telling it like it is. I can repost the quote from the Watercooler if you like.

      By the way, you seem to have a penchant for saying n*gger. Just noticed.

        1. Every time, or nearly every time, we use that word on this site, we use it sardonically.

          I suppose we might make a Chris Rock distinction between niggers and Blacks, but that’s distasteful to my liberal mind.

          Got help me if I should use it out of anger or hatred.

          We are trying to liberate that word from this crap where it’s an un-utterable n-word. Fuck that.

          Guess what? Blacks say it all the time too. I’m on board with those guys.

          So do racists. But I’m not using it like they do. Neither are Blacks.

        2. Well yes Robert, I know that you’re not saying it out of hatred. But still, it doesn’t come across as good.

          We are trying to liberate that word from this crap where it’s an un-utterable n-word. Fuck that.

          Hey, I agree with you there.

          Both Chris Rock and Huey Freeman (Boondocks protagonist) both make the distinction between black people and niggers.

          We all know what Chris Rock said.

          And as Huey Freeman once said, “here’s something black people have known for two centuries; niggers are crazy.”

          I guess you also make that distinction.

      1. Well, Robert, you might think that you’re just putting those words in racists’ mouths.

        But still, you frequently use that word. It kinda seems that you like saying it.

        Just sayin’, others might take it the wrong way.

        1. The whole idea of this website is to piss off as many people as people all across the political spectrum, from every land, with every hobby, working at every occupation, of all orientations, of both genders. We’re out to offend everyone.

          If saying nigger looks bad, then that’s great news for the website. The formula is insane, but it’s working great. People just can’t get enough abuse, and they return for yet more verbal flagellations.

        2. Well, if this is deliberate, then you are doing an excellent job, as evidenced by the various people who comment here.

          Your formula somehow works!

          Let’s see, you piss off blacks, WN’s, lefties, right wingers, etc.

          Anyone else I’m missing?

    3. Progressive fellow! Not

      Maybe not to you, but in the eyes of many “progressives” and their precious “people of color,” he was.

      Robert, you may subconsciously think that bashing WN’s and being a philo-Semite gives you a pass among lefties, but just so you know, and as you’ve pointed out, you still get frequently attacked as a racist and bigot.

      Attacking my views does not endear you to them or give you a pass.

      Just so you know.

      1. Oh they hate me! Oh yeah! No one on the Left, and hardly any liberals, will even link here. Most won’t even speak to me. I’m a “racist” that’s why.

        It’s unfortunate that the Left has latched onto this Black racist asshole. They might as well lionize George Fucking Wallace as Malcolm X. Fuck Malcolm X.

        You know full well what White liberals think of out and out White racists, not to mention White nationalists. When I speak, you see the voice of White liberals. You know what we think of you and your kind, BAG. Why beat around the bush? You think White liberals like out and out White racists and White nationalists? Are you kidding? I’m a White liberal. Remember that.

        1. I’m just saying, Robert, being a white liberal who denounces WN’s and racists doesn’t give you a pass, either among blacks or far lefties.

          You could worship at the altar of MLK and Brown v. Board of education, and you’d STILL be a racist.

          You’re still tainted by “aversive racism.” Not only that, but many blacks distrust you because they think that white liberals are fakes. They see you guys as hypocritical, kinda like Jews.

          Or as Malcolm X said, “Conservative ideology simply comes out and says, ‘let’s keep the niggers in their place.’ Liberals say, ‘let’s keep the ne-groes in their place, but shower them with empty promises.'”

          All I’m saying Robert is that you won’t get a special pass from them, no matter how much you denounce me.

          You’re still a racist. Just so you know.

        2. But I learned some important things from the Autobiography of Malcolm X. Like did you know you can get high from nutmeg? By any means necessary, indeed!

  7. Bay Area Guy
    I think many individual jews who fought for civil rights were sincere especially the young ones. But I agree with Lindsay that jews became the biggest racists. My mother and here cousins were in the anti Apartheid movement at University of Cape Town which at the time was aligned with Habonim Dror (too funny.) But given the affects of post apartheid, many South African jews turned racist. My mother is conservative around blacks, her cousin in Brooklyn is an ultra orthodox racist. Another cousin won’t work with black patients and moved to Northern Ireland. Another cousin had her car stolen at gun point and another was raped by a black man who broke into her house.

    1. Well, I guess you could say that Jews were “liberals who haven’t been mugged.”

      All I know is that Jews supported the movement so long as it stayed in the South and involved non-violent, “let’s eat at the lunch counter” integrationist tactics.

      The second the movement moved North, however, and blacks started demanding economic equality and self-determination, Jews abandoned them.

      The 1968 teachers’ strike in New York is a good example. When blacks fought for control of their own failing schools, they were pitted against the Jewish professional teachers’ union.

      And Jewish racism there played a big role in escalating black-Jewish tensions. When blacks actually started demanding equality with them, and not just the goyim in the South, they all of a sudden weren’t too crazy about it. When integration actually came home, they weren’t thrilled.

      So no, I don’t think that Jews are truly sincere about Civil Rights, and to the extent that they are, it’s only out of their self-interests, and as long as the movement doesn’t take place near them.

      To me, the support of Jewish so-called “Civil Rights organizations” such as the ADL for the apartheid state of Israel undermines their moral Civil Rights posturing on domestic issues.

      They denounce Arizona’s law as wicked, racist, like Nazi Germany, etc, and yet they have no problem supporting a country that erects numerous checkpoints, builds oppressive walls, and murders Palestinians.

      Now if that’s not hypocrisy, I don’t know what is.

    2. All I know is that while Jewry was busy denouncing South African apartheid (including our good friend Alan Dershowitz), they were busy expanding their own apartheid state.

      1. Well, Alan Dershowitz was. Apparently, he was an anti-apartheid activist (at least according to him).

        But now he’s a shameless defender of Israeli war crimes.

        American Jews are like that. Denounce South African apartheid, but act as apologists for Israeli apartheid.

      2. Bay Area Guy
        This is not true. Many of the progressive jews from the civil rights era have taken a more progressive stance on the Israel/Palestine issue. And the majority of neocon jews have become conservative.

        And Angela is right. The vast majority of WN’s rail against “Apartheid Israel,” while supporting segregation in America or defending Apartheid in South Africa pointing to its aftermath as proof that blacks cannot govern themselves.

  8. I just don’t like Malcom X because he embraced Islam. Blacks were not treated any better by the muslim world than they were by white christians. Eldridge Cleaver, a black panther warned against a black alliance with arabs and muslims. He opted to spend the year in a San Francisco prison rather than as a free man in Algeria.

    1. Yeah, black slaves in the Muslim world were treated horribly, just as they were in the New World. The Zanj uprising during the 9th century, for example.

      (there’s a dispute among scholars that not all the slaves involved were African, that white slaves were also involved in the revolt, that the slave trade hadn’t yet fully been established, etc. It’s just funny how so many non-whites and Muslims glorify the Arabic Muslim empire from this time period, and yet don’t mention slavery in this equation. And yet they frequently denounce American wealth and success as being made off of slavery. But I digress)

      Eldridge Cleaver was a strange man. He had vanilla fever, and fantasized about raping white women.

      I don’t know about his other views.

  9. “The whole idea of this website is to piss off as many people as people all across the political spectrum, from every land, with every hobby, working at every occupation, of all orientations,”

    Why? What do you stand to gain from that?

    Dunno, I just do it for shits and giggles. It’s been the formula from the very start. Seems to be working great.

  10. “So a bunch of Jews sat around and said, hey, let’s play the Blacks and Whites off against each other”

    That is exactly what Torah study teaches.

    1)When Nimrod built his ziggurat God punished man by making it so that peoples could not understand one another. Babel means to confound in Hebrew. After the tower of Babel everyone was on a different page so they were less of a threat to God. By extension to his choosen people.

    2) Jacob teaches Jews to tell lies in order to steal others rightful inheratance, and that miscegenation of animals and pornography was a good way to steal Laben’s herds.

    3) The very first recorded words out of a Jews mouth was an injunction to lie. “Sarah lie about who you are and then suck the Pharoah’ dick” The first recorded words of a Gentile talking to a Jew was. “Damn dude why did you let me fuck your Sister/wife”? So while Abraham skedaddled with the Pharoahs loot, God got pissed off at the Egyptions and punished them because a married woman out sucking dick lowered the communities morality. This teaches that reducing a comunities morality is the best way to rip them off, and what better way to debauch a society then to bring in a bunch of big dick fuckers from Calaban’s contenent.

    Remember to observant Jew’s the only reason Gentiles are alive is to punish non observant Jews for being non observant, and for ripping off when you are observant.

  11. Whereas virtually every WN is in favor of apartheid in their own country and usually other “White” countries, while opposing the so-called apartheid in Israel. Yet I don’t see you denouncing them, or yourself, as hypocrites. Do you see the double standard there? This double standard itself is evidence of the WNs own hypocrisy.

    WN’s go on and on about the “apartheid state of Israel.”

    Yet.

    WN’s supported apartheid in the US, Jim Crow. WN’s supported apartheid in South Africa. WN’s support what amounts to apartheid (White separatism or White supremacism) in the US and every other White country.

    Now, apartheid is either right or its wrong. Not right when we do it and wrong when the bad guys (those dirty Jews) do it.

    1. Likewise (adding on to my reply to Angela), Zionist Jews frequently scream anti-Semitism and point out that there are many other human rights abusers around the world (ie. the Chinese in Tibet, discrimination in Arab countries, etc).

      They then conclude that the fact that Israel receives so much condemnation while other abusers don’t is evidence of anti-Semitism and a double standard.

      That’s essentially the same argument you’re using here.

      But the difference is that unlike Israel, China, the Sudan, Russia, Arab states, etc, don’t go around advertising the fact that they’re vibrant egalitarian democracies.

      Since Israelis/Zionist Jews frequently use moral arguments to justify Israel’s existence and as a way to demonstrate how Israel is so much more humane than everyone else, well then, when Israel behaves immorally, it will be more heavily criticized.

      In a way, I liken WN’s to those nations such as China, Saudi Arabia, etc. While they’re hardly moral saints compared to Zionist Jews, they don’t posture as moral paragons.

      There’s the difference.

      1. To BAG:

        In a way, I liken WN’s to those nations such as China, Saudi Arabia, etc. While they’re hardly moral saints compared to Zionist Jews, they don’t posture as moral paragons.

        There’s the difference.

        Actually….. I have encountered many Chinese and Saudi nationals who feel there home countries are morally superior to the US.

        As for Israel.. I just wish the US would stop sending them tax payer dollars, especially when we are essentially bankrupt. The irony is that both the Saudi and the Chinese governments hold and continue to buy large amounts of US debt … which enables (among many other things..) the US to continue granting Israel foreign aid.

        1. Actually….. I have encountered many Chinese and Saudi nationals who feel there home countries are morally superior to the US.

          Interesting. I guess everyone believes themselves to be morally superior.

          And yeah, I think it’s ridiculous that we continue to aid Israel, especially when we’re just barely hanging on due to foreigners buying our debt.

          No wonder this country continues to go down the tubes.

  12. Emmanuel Cellar and Earl Raab. These two Jews were “down” with using civil rights and immigration to deracinate American Christian culture. Same with Frankfurt Schoolers like Theodore Adorno who pathologized gentile group allegiances to the point where we’ve now got an entire generation of clown wiggers strutting around mumbling in ebonics and imitating black braggadocio and underachievement. Read E. Michael Jones on the Jews. He explains how they’re eternal revolutionaries. Wherever they’ve gone they’ve never been able to stand where they are because they’re programmed by their paranoid scripture to regard themselves as superior outsiders. They always want to turn Sun Valley into Brighton Beach and one of the ways they do this is by planting seeds of discontent through incessant cultural whinging. Read Schlomo Sands and Israel Shahak and be glad you’re not obliged by birth and tradition to pretend you are something more than a parvenu and a urologist.

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