Why Do Wealthy Jews Pursue Liberal/Radical Politics?

A commenter asks why anti-Semitism is never pro-worker.

How about take stuff from rich Jews and keep it for ourselves, rather than giving it to corrupt Gentiles?

Interesting theory, but it never works that way. Not once in history, I believe. The elites always grabbed the Jews’ stuff and money after theykilled them or expelled them. That’s anti-Semitism in a nutshell.

Kill/throw out the Jews and steal their stuff.

He also can’t believe that Jewish politics doesn’t exactly follow their class interests:

And what is Jewish politics based on then if not class interests

People’s politics don’t necessarily follow their class interests. Engels was a rich man. Carlos the Terrorist’s father was a millionaire Communist. People are funny that way.

When Jews who came here they were poor. And they were poor in the Pale too. So they supported the class politics of the poor. The Jews in the US never let go of their earlier liberalism/radicalism.

Then in the last century, a lot of them got behind Communism for some reason, contrary to their class interests.

One theory is the reality of Jewish life in the Diaspora.

Jews living in the Diaspora grow up being told that they are better than the Gentiles around them. And in some ways, they are better, especially those who live Jewish. Living according to Judaism is associated with lower outcomes on a lot of social pathologies.

They also grow up being told that the Gentiles around them hate them. This leads to a confrontational and often rebellious attitude of many Diaspora Jews towards a society they view as hostile and fucked up. Hence you get your Jewish radicals and revolutionaries of various types, out to make society a better place. You also get all the Jewish cultural radicals, from crazy artists to porn merchants. These secular Jews are basically rebels, and they’re giving the finger to hostile Gentile society in a sense.

For the last 150 years, conservatives in the West have tended to be anti-Semites. Even prior, Napoleon himself was a liberal, and he’s the father of all modern emancipated Jews. Jews see liberals as protecting minority rights.

And all the people who seriously attacked the Jews in the West for the past 150 years, including assholes who tried to exterminate them, were hard rightwingers.

The Czar was a rightwinger. So were the fascists. So are the radical right Islamists persecuting the Jews in the Muslim World.

Also in the West, conservatives tend to push Christian politics. That’s bad for the Jews. Liberals are more secular in the West and the Muslim World, so Jews trust them better.

In the past 150 years, Orthodox Judaism broke up into Conservative and Reform Judaism. Reform Judaism in particular has junked a lot of the horrible rightwing crap in the Talmud and Torah in favor of a liberal view of mankind. In particular, the proscription for the Jews to be “the light unto nations” has led many Reform and secular Jews to be revolutionaries and liberals of various types.

They’re called upon by their religion to make the world a better place.

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80 thoughts on “Why Do Wealthy Jews Pursue Liberal/Radical Politics?”

  1. That’s a very altruistic spin on things Rob. You claim that for the past 150 years, anti-Semites were usually right-wing, what about today? The entire GOP kisses Jewish ass like there is no tomorrow.
    MacDonald would claim that all this radical activism is meant to subvert Gentile society and install a Jewish or a shabbat goyim elite instead of the organic, healthy Gentile elite, such as the Romanovs in Russia before 1917.

    1. Tsarist Russia (the Romanovs) was an unmitigated disaster for 95% of the Russian population.

      Robert is right in that you contradictorily hate Jewish bloodsuckers while at the same time valorize and support gentile bloodsuckers.

      1. The Russian Empire was rapidly industrializing from 1880 to 1914, faster than any other Western nation. So the Tsars were making huge progress in modernizing their Empire and their subjects. I don’t valorize Gentile bloodsuckers at all. It’s just that corrupt Gentiles tend to be shabbat goyim who are either close to Jews socially or are in their debt, such as Winston Churchill.

        1. No, he is NOT. lt’s you “Comrad” Robert that is ignorant.

          This is Tsar-Russia. Pics. He is spot on. Tsar-Russia was one, if not the most updated country in the world.

          http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2008/01/15/pre-communist-russia/

          Then the JEW took the phone book, because if you could afford a phone in Russia 1917, you was the elite. What the jew did next was to go to every single name in the phone book and the jew took man, pregnant wife, new born babies, all the children, aunts and uncles to the forest and shot them in the neck. The jew didn’t wast a bullet on new born babies, the jew just throw the baby into the mass grave pit.

          Then the jew elite moved into the now empty old russian elites homes, maid and all. Hence the jews replaced the old russian elite with a new jew elite. lt’s the elite that controls the state and that is what the jew fraud communism is all about, replacing the old non-jew elite with a new jew elite.

          Now the jews are in total control of the Russian state and then the jew did what the jew always do when the jew have taken over the state, the jew fucked up Russia to the core.

          http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2007/12/05/biggest-russian-cathedrawl-blow-up/

          Not one jew sinagouge was touched. This is the jew run Moscow in 1948:

          When Golda attended the Central Synagogue in Moscow for the Jewish New Year she received a rapturous welcome from some 50,000 Jews enthusiastically cheering in the surrounding streets.

          Just look at the back of a 10.000 sheqalim Golda Meir note. That is a picture taken when she(?) was, according to her own diary “mobbed by 50.000 jews”.

          Most important was an airlift of armaments from Czechoslovakia which were crucial to Israel’s survival in 1949.

          http://www.ijs.org.au/Golda-Meir/default.aspx

          >The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.”

          THE AMERICAN HEBREW September 10, 1920

    2. The Romanovs were no healthy organic elite. They were the scum of the Earth! I’m sorry those kids got killed, but the adults got what they deserved. The Bolsheviks did the right thing to line those fuckers up!

      This is where MacDonald and the other anti-Semitic dickwads are full of shit. Jewish radical activism is not some diabolical Jewish plot to create a new Jewish elite. You’re getting caught up in the Judeo-Bolshevism lie, one of the biggest lies ever. It actually is to make the world a better place. Seriously.

        1. 95% of Russians lived in utter misery. The Romanoffs and their buddies swept up all the money. Society was still effectively semi-feudal. Large landowners ruled the day. Peasants were not serfs anymore, but they were not much better. Life was shit. Life expectancy was only 32 years.

          Almost the entire Russian nation rose up as one and overthrew the Czar in 1917. The initial revolution had profound mass support with peasants, workers, and many intellectuals too. Hardly anyone like the royals and their pals. That’s why the revolution was so successful. Mass support.

          Royalism is rarely progressive. It’s usually all about stealing all the loot in society.

  2. Well, Orthodox Judaism was the norm until about 1900 or so. Those splitoffs were so small it was pitiful. It was only after the 1890’s that Orthodox Judaism started breaking up in terms of numbers.

    Yes, but Orthodox Judaism was only the reinstatement of typical Talmudic Judaism as practiced by Jews since 1000 or so. From 1000-1800, all Jews were effectively Orthodox, no matter that the idea itself had not been dreamed up.

    It was a “return to the past” reactionary movement.

  3. Did you, by any chance, get your “college” degree from a CUNY school?

    Don’t think so. I’m thinking NYU. And that’s supposed to be a damn good school too. Go figure.

    So he’s politically confused. So are almost all the White people I know.

    You’re a political amateur, fpy. Your politics is incoherent sometimes.

      1. LOL, if indeed that’s where he went, that’s hilarious. That’s probably what turned him into an anti-Semite right there. They probably force you to order bagels with lox and cream cheese in the fuckin cafeteria.

        Damn, I’m glad I didn’t go to a 1/3 Jewish school myself. I’d probably turn anti-Semite myself. A few Jews go a long ways.

        NYU, LOL! Why go halfway? Why not go all out and go to Brandeis?

    1. Why did she put college in quote marks? And damn Rob, can you not say what school I went to in public? I’m a Third Positionist/National Bolshevik, which is not all incoherent.

      1. I haven’t the faintest idea what school you went to. You never told me, and no one else told me either. I’m just making an educated guess.

        NB’s don’t hate the Bolsheviks for killing the Romanovs, last time I checked. Why do you think they have Bolshevik in their name.

      2. If you’re worried about being identified, why did you confirm that in public? It’s not too bad, you’ve only narrowed yourself down to one of several thousands, but still… Don’t do it again. If someone guesses right, just don’t say anything about it.

        1. No one’s going to try to identify him. Why would anyone do that? He’s not important. So he’s a Nazi symp. Big deal. There are millions of Nazi symps in the US. You can’t track down all of them. GMAB.

    2. And I’m the one who’s ignorant? Asians do not receive any affirmative action benefits at all, and my SAT scores and grades were pretty damn high, so you’re wrong on that count. By the way, since when are the Tsars “fascist”? The Russian Empire was pre-fascist. And no, I don’t think serfdom was fine and dandy.

      1. @ fpy3p

        Get a real nick, one you can say. And do NOT respond to the smear-slander by ignorant non-jews and lying jew scumbags. “Comrad” Lindsay’s blog is full of lying jew scumbags. Just get your facts right, use jew ONLY sources and go for the kill. Don’t wast time to try to “argue” with lying jew scumbags.

        Just grab the lying jew by the neck, nail the lying jew to the floor, face down and start shove’it down the throat. The lying jew scumbag can’t handle the truth.

  4. Are CUNY schools supposed to be that bad?

    They are practically free or very cheap public schools. The whole idea of them for the past 30 years has been to edumacate the poor and low income Blacks and Hispanics of New York. I think lots of grants and loans are available for POC’s. The schools are full of POC’s on grants who can barely read or write. Almost all of them are gone by 1 or 2 years in. They can’t hack it. There are charges that the curriculum is watered down to deal with the student body, but I’m not sure if it’s true.

  5. Maybe you have autism/Aspergers.

    He is kind of Aspie-like. He so doesn’t get it so much of the time, and his social skills are catastrophic. I don’t know if he actually has it or not though. Are you an Aspie, fpy?

  6. All this radical Jewish activism is meant to subvert Gentile society and install a Jewish or a shabbat goyim elite instead of the organic, healthy Gentile elite, such as the French royal family before 1791.

    1. All this radical Jewish activism is meant to subvert Gentile society and install a Jewish or a shabbat goyim elite instead of the organic, healthy Gentile elite, such as the House of Borgia in Italy before 1503.

    2. All this radical Jewish activism is meant to subvert Gentile society and install a Jewish or a shabbat goyim elite instead of the organic, healthy Gentile elite, such as Franco in Spain before 1975.

      1. All this radical Jewish activism is meant to subvert Gentile society and install a Jewish or a shabbat goyim elite instead of the organic, healthy Gentile elite, such as the Estado Novo regime in Portugal before 1974.

      2. Actually Franco was philo-Semitic. And you’re wrong about Franco and Novo. After 1945, with the Cold War heating up, Jews lined up behind US imperialism. So Jews would have supported Franco and other CIA-supported puppet regimes.

  7. Actually Franco was philo-Semitic.

    Franco’s plan to murder Spanish Jews

    “According to the recent discovery of a World War II Document, Franco ordered his provincial governors to compile a list of Jews while he negotiated an alliance with the Axis powers. Franco supplied Heinrich Himmler with a list of 6,000 Jews in Spain, for the Nazi’s “Final Solution”.[42] Plans for alliance fell through and Spain never carried out the Nazi’s plans.”

    Allying with Hitler and planning to murder the Jews of Spain by sending them to the Nazis. How philosemitic of this charitable fellow.

    1. Israel Shamir said Franco, unlike Hitler, was philo-Semitic, that’s where I got it from. By the way, would you say it’s accurate that after 1945, the Jews turned on the USSR and lined up with US imperialism?

      1. All Americans did you silly guy! The Jews had the distinction of at least being progressive before the war. But the US anti-imperialist movement after the war, in particular the Communist Party, was stacked top to bottom with Jews.

        Jews were just regular Cold Warriors like all Americans, with the exception that they were probably more Cold War dubious or hostile than your average WASP shithead.

        1. But the US anti-imperialist movement after the war, in particular the Communist Party, was stacked top to bottom with Jews.
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          heg: And why do you think that is? Because the jew was in TOTAL control of Soviet and all the jews wanted Soviet to “liberat” America.

          The so called “Cold War” was a jew fraud. The jew took over Russia in 1917 and turned her into the jew’s private army for jew world conquest. The jew went from Moscow to every single country in the world and started jew instigate wars all over the world. Hence the jew got what he wanted, a military build up.

          Take away the Moscow-jew and there would never been any “Cold War”.

  8. Hey fpy. Guess what? You’re wrong. Google Judeo-Masonic Conspiracy, Franco’s pet obsession. I spent a long time reading through the Latin American section on Stormfront. Guess what? They’re all Francoists, and their all anti-Semites, possibly homicidal or genocidal ones.

    Franco’s regime was in bed with Opus Dei, a wildly anti-Semitic group of ultra-Catholic reactionaries. During the Civil War, Jews were liable to be arrested by anti-Semitic police working for the Francoists. After the war, synagogues were reopened, but only discreetly. During his entire reign, Franco railed on and on about the international Judeo-Masonic conspiracy, basically an updated Judeo-Bolshevism, which was plotting to get him and those like him. On this subject, Franco was a near paranoid loon.

    Anyway, most political scientists do not consider Franco a pure fascist anymore, so look elsewhere.

    The entire US public was behind Franco’s regime. The Jews were probably more anti-fascist and anti-Franco than any other US ethnic group during this period. Recall that anymore, Jews recoil from the world fascist as if it’s contagious. Except their own fascism in Der Judenstaat, but, you know, that’s different.

    You’re a political amateur.

    Your politics is incoherent. I think it’s due to the anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism seems to mangle even the most rational of politics somehow.

      1. Yes, the Iranian Jews supported the Shah, because Iranians are anti-Semites, and the Shah was very good for the Jews. Most US Jews probably didn’t even care.

        All Americans supported Somoza. The pro-Sandinista movement in the US was full of Jews. Jews were not particularly prominent Cold Warriors. The Cold War was led by WASP type assholes.

        1. Iranians are NOT anti-semites. Iran has a large , successful and influential jewish community who have lived there for thousands of years and show no desire to live anywhere else – they have full political and religious rights and suffer no persecution, and appear to be patriots of Iran rather than Israel.

  9. The neocons certainly weren’t. And don’t forget the Pipes family.

    Neocons are rightwing Jews. They don’t show up until Reagan. Only 20% of Jews are rightwing Jews. Big deal. Yes, Pipes was a Cold Warrior.

    When are you ever going to figure this out?

    JEWS LEAD MOVEMENTS.

    Jew are everywhere and all over the place. Sure, Pipes was a Jew, but those dubious about the Cold War or urging peace with the USSR were very disproportionately Jewish. I would imagine that the average Jew was a lot more lukewarm on the Cold War than the average Gentile. Anyway, right after the War, the East European regimes were full of Jews. And Jews were very prominent among the armed revolutionaries in Latin America.

    1. Didn’t Comrade Stalin purge the Jews after the war in Eastern European governments? And were there any Jews, in America and the Soviet bloc itself, who were as stridently pro-Soviet as the neocons were stridently pro-imperialist?

      1. Didn’t Comrade Stalin purge the Jews after the war in Eastern European governments?

        He most certainly did not. In fact, he chose Jews to lead the government since most Poles were dubious about Communism. But the Jews were quite enthusiastic. Read your buddy MacDonald. He practically says the Polish Communism was Jewish. It’s a typical complaint among Polish anti-Semites to this day: Jews are a bunch of Commies.

        And were there any Jews, in America and the Soviet bloc itself, who were as stridently pro-Soviet as the neocons were stridently pro-imperialist?

        Sure, there were many East European Jews who were very much pro-Soviet after the war. Of course they were. They loved the USSR. And in the US, too, many of the most pro-Soviet folks were a bunch of Jews. The McCarthy hearings went Hollywood Jews. The CPUSA was full of Jews. This is the classic line of US anti-Semites: US Jews are a bunch of Commies.

        Man, your politics is so irrational.

        1. Do you think I could be classified as a left-wing anti-Semite? And what about the Francis Parker Yockey line that after 1945, Jews all lined up behind Uncle Sam? Yockey was the one who convinced me that during the Cold War, the Jews jumped ship and switched sides.

        2. Communism is a form of organisation of the working class. It is leadership by and of the working class, not by a separate vanguard class – in fact Lenin and Trotsky were NOT communists – or by an elite caste. If the communists are jewish in a gentile land, then these are jewish organisations not communists.

  10. Do you think I could be classified as a left-wing anti-Semite?

    Not at all. You are sort of one of those 3P types, but you’re a confused one. The better ones make more sense than you do.

    And what about the Francis Parker Yockey line that after 1945, Jews all lined up behind Uncle Sam? Yockey was the one who convinced me that during the Cold War, the Jews jumped ship and switched sides.

    I happen to think Yockey is a fuckin loon. All of the West lined up with the US against the USSR in Cold War, Jews probably much less enthusiastically than a lot of them. The worst in this respect tended to be Catholics in Latin America and in Europe – Spain, Portugal, Italy. And 100% of Yockey’s Nazi BUDDIES lined up with the West in the Cold War. They were Stalin-haters, remember?

    Yockey doesn’t make a lot of sense. I think he lined up with the Soviets because he saw them as anti-Semites.

    Anti-Semitism is a weird mental illness. You lie in bed with whoever hates the Jews, no matter who they are. That’s why anti-Semites go to bed with Hitler, late Stalin, Al Qaeda, Saddam, on and on. The politics makes no sense unless you figure that they ally with whatever anti-Semites are around of whatever political flavor. So they think the Jewish Question is the primary question in political economics. Which of course it isn’t, unless you’re a retard or a nut.

    1. How am I not left-wing? And for your information, there were many former Nazis who lined up with the USSR, such as Otto Remer. Yockey’s whole reasoning was that with Hitler defeated, the Jews no longer had any use for the USSR and so they treacherously betrayed it and threw it away like a used tissue, and Israel’s creation 1948 also was a major factor.

      1. Lefties don’t support fascism.

        Never met a Leftie who liked Hitler. Well, there are a few, but those are anti-Semite nuts.

        Never met a Leftie who went on and on like a Nazi about Judeo-Bolshevism. Lefties like Bolshevism.

        Never met a Leftie who romanticizes, of all people, the Romanovs!!!!!!!! Never met a Leftie who thought Stalin outlawing abortion and homosexuality was tres cool. Never met a Leftie who digs Stormfront.

        Most Lefties don’t dig fascism, except the anti-Semite Lefties, and even they only make peace with it in general.

        And Israel Shamir, despite his fine writing and excellent insights, is also a Jewish anti-Semite tres excellance! He’s a first class nut on the Jewish Question. Take him with a grain of salt. A huge one!

        You are sort of one of those strange NatBol types, but even they are more coherent than you are.

        Some anti-Semitism sort of makes sense. WN anti-Semitism is fairly rational. Jews are not exactly the best friends of the White race! But there are plenty of White Gentiles digging the grave too. Anyway, even this is reactive. Assholes going on about White pride usually say Jews are not White, plus they hate them. A great big White Prider tried to wipe them off the face of the Earth. So this is just Jewish reaction, and it has historical antecedents.

        The Socialism of Fools makes senses in a way. Yeah, Jews got tons of money, ok.

        Cultural conservative anti-Semites sort of make sense. Sure, Jews lead the charge against Christianity, which they hate, and traditional culture.

        Conservative anti-Semites sort of make sense. Yes, many Jews are revolutionaries, and they are deeply associated with liberal to revolutionary movements.

        But your anti-Semitism doesn’t really make sense.

      2. Yockey’s whole reasoning was that with Hitler defeated, the Jews no longer had any use for the USSR and so they treacherously betrayed it and threw it away like a used tissue, and Israel’s creation 1948 also was a major factor.
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        heg: l don’t know this Yockey. lnfo. The jew gave up the jew run Soviet in the 60s Why? Because the jew realised that they could not conquer the whole world from Moscow. To do that the jew MUST have a carrier fleet. Only USA can build and maintain a carrier fleet.

        The other reason was that the jew needed a new jew cold war fraud. That jew fraud is called “War on Terror”. The jew fraud 9-11 is how the jew is turning America into a jew run police state.

    2. Unless you’re a retard or a nut, you should be worried that an ethnic mafia with its own nuclear-armed theocratic nutcase state has taken control of all the power nodes of your society, has total control of your banking system, has access to all your electronic communications and therefore the access codes for your nukes and general military command and control. This IS the most pressing issue for the US (and the rest of us, but WE can’t do anything about it) – until you get this monkey off your back you can’t do anything about capitalism, corruption, global warming, whatever – because at present all your activist organisations too are controlled by jews, and will therefore serve the interests of jewish elites first and foremost.

    1. Actually, OCDers don’t act like this at all. It’s a common misconception. OCDers are not obsessives in the traditional sense. Instead, they are shy, very nice, rather nervous neurotic types. On Internet threads, if they even show up at all (most are too shy to post) they will be very nice, deferential, etc. The main emotion that radiates from them, if any, is anxiety.

      Obsessions are not the obsessions that most of us think of but instead are unwanted thoughts that they try to resist.

      Most OCDers have good social skills and don’t fuck up that way too much. Main problem is they are shy and nervous and they can be prominent anxiety.

      They can also have a “lost in space” attitude about them, but when they open their mouths, they only say sensible things.

      fpy doesn’t seem like he has much anxiety at all, but I’m guessing.

      I know because I have it. Plus I have met a couple of them.

      He clearly does not have it. I am quite sure of that.

      1. A children’s story

        heg: No it’s not a child story. lt’s a story for grown people with a working brain. He explain how the jew got in, in the first place, by cry “persecuten”. That is how the jew got into America.

        Then he explains how the jew once inside turn on their host country. This is so spot on. The man that wrote it is a genius. He knew the jew to the core.

        1. NO six million jews died during Jew War Two, aka ww2. The jews own census.

          http://www.ajcarchives.org/main.php?GroupingId=40

          I don’t understand. This link contains the following quotation for the year 1946:

          “The figures reveal that the total
          Jewish population of the world has decreased by one-third, from about 16,600,000 in 1939 to about 11,000,000 in 1946, as a result
          of the annihilation by the Nazis of more than five and a half million European Jews.”

          How does this support your case?

          Or were you trying to say that this is an example of treacherous kike propaganda? I don’t get it.

          You are very confusing, heg.

  11. “Making the world a better place” Bob says is an authentic Jewish imperative, not an attempt to create a Jewish elite.

    It has been perennially employed due to inherent
    alienation inflicted by the rabbis against the host society, no matter the latter’s state of health.
    Thus in the 1950s the simultanous rabbinical cry for everyone else to be integrated and for their own flock to reject intermarriage.

    A true “radical activist” of Bob’s description of Jewish lineage would find himself automatically at odds with the rabbinical establishment .The occasional authentic, him or herself , to be Transcendentally utile, must place him or herself at the service of a Higher Identity than that of Diaspora Jew. That Higher Identity of course has already been formed by an Other, e.g. the preexisting edifice of the State.

  12. So how old are you RC?

    I don’t know this chick from Adam, but as a WAG, I would say she is between 23-28 years old. Liberal SWPL type. Probably from a nice laid back blue state. She might even be a computer geek type, who knows. Maybe a programmer or something IT like that. Might work for a corporation, maybe even an IT corporation. Young, Jewish, liberal, granola and Birkenstocks type.

    I’m kind of psychic.

  13. Bob is completely wrong about all the Nazis lining up with the West against the Soviet. In fact Yockey was friends with many key Nazis who went East.

  14. Don’t wast time to try to “argue” with lying jew scumbags.

    Just grab the lying jew by the neck, nail the lying jew to the floor, face down and start shove’it down the throat. The lying jew scumbag can’t handle the truth.

    LOL, what is this heg, a sport? Wrestling Polemics With Jews?

  15. Debunk this jew holohoax. Do you know how many jews died during the FIRST Jew War, aka ww2? Six million.

    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/tfh/9.html

    The holohoax was made up in Tsar Russia. Debunk this holohoax.

    http://erichunt.net/million-jews-times/

    NO six million jews died during Jew War Two, aka ww2. The jews own census.

    http://www.ajcarchives.org/main.php?GroupingId=40

    LOL, thanks for clearing this shit up, heg.

    Jews faked the murder of 5.7 million of their own people. Greatest disappearing act since Houdini. Sneaky fuckers. So what happened to the 5.7 million Jews? Did they turn into David Icke’s Lizard People? Maybe that explains it. This calls for an explanation. Someone get James Randi on the phone!

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