tulio made an excellent comment just now on feminism.
The subject of comparative masculinity between the races and feminism is subject that often arises here. One thing I observe is that white males are the choice mates of feminists of all colors. I recently had a heart to heart conversation with a Latina that is left wing and definitely on the feminist/independent woman tip. She says she prefers white men.
She feels that black and Latino men are either too machismo, too controlling, believe too much in gender roles or are likely to cheat. She doesn’t view Asian men as an option under any circumstance. So she prefers white men. And this is a girl who you guys would definitely consider anti-white in politics. Like she believes white people have no culture, that many of them are racist and she’s definitely seems to be in favor of little or no immigration controls.
She feels that white men are going to be more tolerant of women with her sense of independence(or basically all her feminist traits), and she’s not into all the roles of women thing like having dinner ready and being submissive in any way. She thinks white males are the best option for women like her.
When I think about it, almost all the feminist I know or have known ended up with white guys. Usually they were the feminized SWPL sort of whites guys. The kind you see waiting outside the store with the baby strapped to his chest in a harness while the wife wants to do her thing inside. I’ve met some of these guys. They come off as wimpy, easy to control and get dominated by their feminist wives who run the show.
These guys have usually been shamed into thinking any overt sense of masculinity is taboo. They tend to be very much beta males and wouldn’t think of doing anything that would offend his wife’s feminist sensibilities like suggesting she cook or clean.
They also tend to be afraid to do anything that would suggest they see her as a sexual object. That’s the one common complaint amongst feminists, “Women are not sexual objects!” Of course women are sexual objects. So are men. That’s not all we are, but that’s part of what we are. If you go around with cleavage showing, don’t be offended if a man leers at your breasts. He’s just being a man. What the fuck is wrong with that?
One of these guys looked at me like “WTF” when I said I’m not a feminist, as if they was like someone saying they are against civil rights. So there you go, non-macho non-cavemen white males certainly have their market. It’s feminist females of any color.
I’m starting to have more and more a dislike for feminism and how it has fucked with the natural order of things. You have a lot of these bitter, domineering Hillary Clinton type women who think they have to compete and fight with men and have a chip on their shoulder. Many of them don’t date or date rarely.
I then hear people I know that have wives or girlfriends from S. America, or SE Asia or E. Europe and they say once you hunker down with one of these women who embrace their femininity and believe in putting family first over career, you’ll never want a Western woman again. They say feminism has fucked up Western, and particularly American so bad that they’ve written them off. My uncle only dates Asian women and said he’s done with American women for good. I’ve met other guys that have said similar.
Thing is, I am a feminist in the strict sense in that I’m all for women’s rights, I’m pro choice, I believe women should have equal opportunity, there should be no glass ceilings for women and I think women make perfectly fine heads of state.
What I don’t like is the complete feminist assault on femininity and their belief that women will be made strong by making them less like women and more like men. They look down on “girly, feminine women” like a black nationalist would a Uncle Tom.
I’m not down with that crap. While both my parents worked, I always grew up in a household where my dad brought home most the bread, my mom worked too, but she always saw it as her duty to cook and clean and shop for the kids. My dad wore the pants, he made the rules. He was never abusive or anything, but it was obvious who was running the show. My mom simply saw it as her duty to take care of the house make sure she made dinner. That’s what her mom did, and that’s what her grandmother did.
He discusses how feminists all want White men. Well, of course they do. What’s bizarre about this is that if you read modern feminist discourse, such as feminist websites, there is not one word about Latino or Black men. Men from other nations are rarely discussed. The rage is all directed against White men, but paradoxically, that’s who they all want to hook up with!
I wrote a while back about how Mexicans have ruined California, but strangely enough, my complaint is not against the illegals. The illegals and non-assimilated or poorly assimilated Mexicans generally act very, very good. They have traditional Old World, Old Mexico peasant and working class values. Sure, there are traditional role models there, but strangely enough, the women seem to love it! The women are very, very happy, and of course, so are the men. I have no idea if the women are oppressed or not. Perhaps they are. But they seem to enjoy their ultra-feminine role.
The strange thing is that the more women move out of traditional roles, it seems like the more miserable they get! Modern women claim they don’t want to be shackled with the old ways, but the more they give it up in favor of feminism, the more unhappy and angry they get. I suspect it’s because they are messing with Mother Nature. Nature wants women to be feminine and to play a traditional role. When they don’t, they’re fucking with the system. Nature doesn’t like things that don’t play by the rules: she attacks them. So she attacks modern women by making them angry and miserable.
Tulio’s position is the same as mine. Equity feminism is good; radical feminism is bad. Modern feminism is radical feminism.
The paradox, as I mentioned, is that if feminists all want White men, why do they rail against us as evil rapists and oppressors of women? White men don’t do a lot of raping, and they don’t oppress women too much. Black and Latino men are way worse on both counts. Yet there is nothing but silence about this subject from feminists.
A couple of things are going on here. Radical feminism is PC. PC people never like to say anything bad about their glorious POC’s. So there’s an inhibition there. I don’t blame them, because the minute they say one bad word about POC men, they’re going to get hit by a broken dam flood of “RACIST!” screams.
Radical feminism seems to resemble Critical Race Theory in some ways. As CRT is mostly a way for bourgeois self-hating Whites and POC’s to rail against bourgeois Whites for not divvying up the bourgeois loot fairly enough, I suspect the same thing is going on with radical feminism. If you go their sites, these women are all smart, White, and either in college or college grads. A surprising number of them are going to top name schools like Yale and Harvard. The talk on the blogs is how they are going to move into big bucks corporate world after graduation. It’s obvious why these women don’t want to discuss the C word – class, too much.
Their lament, I think, is similar to the CRT folks. These bourgeois White women are furious at bourgeois White men for not divvying up the bourgeois loot fairly enough. No fair! This is where the rage is coming from.
And as these women are mostly only dating White men and not dealing with POC men at all, that’s why they never discuss the transgressions of POC men – they simply don’t deal with them! Nevertheless, the downtrodden White man is the one they deal with on a regular basis. Their minds are filled with all this feminist fury, hate and Victim Drug, and all that energy needs somewhere to go. So it gets directed at the very males that are most meaningful to their personal lives.
The funny thing is that these guys, as tulio points out, are about as feminist as you can get. But their feminist women are yet not satisfied. The feminists don’t want to be happy like Jews don’t want anti-Semitism to go away. They need patriarchy and female oppression like Dracula needs blood.
I don’t think the solution is to be a pig. Traditional women like guys who assume masculine role models. I suspect that deep down inside, feminists do too. You can cook and clean the house without her thinking you’re a pussy. Hell, I cook and clean myself.