tulio asks whether racists are naturally mean people or whether outside of their racism, they are pretty nice people. It’s actually a very interesting question:
I was wondering if racists just seem mean when discussing race, but are actually nice people otherwise if you stay away from the topic of race. We concluded that racists tend to just be miserable people period. Their racism is just a natural extension of their overall nastiness.
I learned this through a lot of dealings with them. They just are not very nice people period. However, some of the older ones are pretty nice. Jared Taylor is a nice guy, and so is Ken Hoop, but those guys are older. But those guys are pretty calmed down about race.
We concluded that racists tend to just be miserable people period. Their racism is just a natural extension of their overall nastiness.
I agree that most White nationalist-type racists are just nasty and ugly people period. Mean, specifically, and very angry. That’s why we have to keep banning them here, because they simply can’t seem to control their rage and hatred and they keep breaking the Comments Rules.
And if you hang on their fora a lot, it’s pretty clear after a while how mean a lot of them are.
However, I disagree that their racism is an expression of their meanness. Instead, I think they are mean because they are racist. Racism makes me mean. Period. It seems so obvious and it’s kind of a stupid anti-racist meme (Stop the hate!), but after you’ve been around a lot of them, it’s so clear that it hits you in the face, and it must be true.
Where I have problems is in the cases where you have entirely racist societies like the Old South (indeed, all the US before 1960 or so), Colonial Latin America, the Ottoman Empire, China, Japan, Korea, India and Nazi Germany and its puppet societies. I don’t think societies where racism is simply normative are mean societies. Most people were and are probably pretty nice in those places, unless they are dealing with the Other, in which they won’t act very nice.
I don’t know what life was like in Nazi Germany, but I bet in your average rural German area, most Germans were still pretty nice to each other.
Racism is funny.
So the racism of the White nationalists seems to differ from that of your typical racism-normative society. Which implies that they are pathological persons involved in a pathological movement.