Fencing With the Race Deniers

I made a huge mistake and went over to Hell – Abagond’s Black racist and PC Critical Race Theory site, and posted some comments. My comments were attacking some White racist who said “niggers aren’t human,” but even that wasn’t good enough. You can never win with PC types. It’s like the middle class White Protestantism that I was brought up with. No matter how hard you try, you’re always messing up.

I got into an argument with a rude race denier and so-called White person named “Thaddeus.” The guy teaches biology at a community college, and he’s a race denier. That shows me that biology is going to PC Hell along with most of the rest of the “sciences.” When the sciences are flushing down and away, swirling into the PC obscurantism bowl, what do we have left of critical thought?

Thaddeus is a self-hating White who’s married to a Black woman. I guess both he and wifey think White people suck.

I can’t take apart his race-denying arguments (that there essentially are no significant differences at all between the races) but in my heart I know that this is wrong.

The races differ genetically. Yes, the environment can deal with the genetic clay and mold it in various ways, but I’m convinced that a lot of racially discrepant behavior is in part genetically driven. The thorny question is what can we do about it, and how can we manipulate the environment to modify genetic predispositions.

There’s a problem with race denial. When you say there’s no difference between the races, well, some races are not exactly measuring up in a lot of ways. Then we need to ask why, since there are no differences in the genes, right? Either their cultures are different (weird when racial groups act similarly across oceans and continents) or racism and colonialism is making one group screw up and the other prosper at their expense.

So race denial leads to one and only one explanation for Black people’s issues – it’s all White people’s fault. We done it with our evil racism and colonialism juju spells. Poor things, it’s not their fault.

So you have all these Blacks who are taught that their difficult state can only have been caused by evil White racism and colonialism. Hence a good part of the wild Black rage, hatred and racism towards Whites derives from this ridiculous mental space.

If it were true it would be one thing, but I don’t think it is.

Why sell the world a lie and beat up Whites just to make Blacks feel good?

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17 thoughts on “Fencing With the Race Deniers”

  1. Thaddeus is a self-hating White who’s married to a Black woman. I guess both he and wifey think White people suck.

    In defense of Thaddeus, I don’t think that he actually is a self-hating white.

    To me, being married to someone of a different race, even a black woman, doesn’t in and of itself qualify you as a self-hater.

    Your attitude does. Tim Wise is married to a white woman, yet he’s the biggest self-hater in town.

    Having frequently read Abagond, Thaddeus has actually been attacked by various black commenters as racist, a clueless white guy, a defender of white people, etc.

    His crime? Simply presenting certain facts and logic that contradict radical anti-racism. Even though he’s an anti-racist and nowhere close to being a white nationalist such as myself, he still gets frequently attacked as racist.

    He once even schooled Ankhesen Mie (though I don’t agree with all parts of his comments).

    http://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/drapto/#comment-49497

    Don’t mind his spelling and typo errors.

    Even though he is a white anti-racist, I strangely don’t see him as a self-hater, because he’s actually willing to call out blacks on their bullshit.

    Hence a good part of the wild Black rage, hatred and racism towards Whites derives from this ridiculous mental space.

    Like our good friends Colin Ferguson and Omar Thornton.

    I mean, I know you’re not exactly fond of us, but do you at least now understand where we white nationalists are coming from?

  2. I can’t take apart his race-denying arguments (that there essentially are no significant differences at all between the races) but in my heart I know that this is wrong.

    With respect, Robert, that’s hardly a ringing endorsement of your point of view.

    Mathilda’s Antrho blog would be a good piece of evidence to counterattack with.

  3. Poor things, it’s not their fault.

    I know, right?

    Even when they go on killing sprees, rather than have him be denounced, we white people get yet another lecture on how horrible racism is, and how we all have to use this event as a “teachable moment” on the path to eradicating racism.

    Timothy McVeigh and those James Von Brunn types? Evil psychotic fucks.

    (and to clarify, I do believe that McVeigh types are absolute scum who deserve no sympathy or pity whatsoever)

    But Colin Ferguson and Omar Thornton? Simply misunderstood, oppressed victims who had no choice but to kill whites because racism made em’ do it.

    If this doesn’t wake white people up, I don’t know what will.

  4. “There’s a problem with race denial. When you say there’s no difference between the races, well, some races are not exactly measuring up in a lot of ways. Then we need to ask why, since there are no differences in the genes, right? Either their cultures are different (weird when racial groups act similarly across oceans and continents) or racism and colonialism is making one group screw up and the other prosper at their expense.”

    I’m open to the possibility that there are some average genetic differences between the so-called races. But I’m sure culture is quite important no matter what the case. For example, the West Africans I’ve met over the years don’t seem at all like African Americans to me.

    1. i’d suspect the cultural aspect at play here is that west africans are living in a culturally repressive, war-scarred, macho society. old-fashioned…in short.

      you’re not going to see the individual’s true nature in that kind of society.

      genetics is king. maybe only 55% of the equation, but it is still the main determinant.

  5. Everyone is a racist to one degree or another. I’m Jewish and I can say w/ certainty that Jews are probably the biggest racial/ethnic supremacists on Earth. We call ourselves, “the chosen people” for God’s sake!
    It’s normal and natural to be a racist. It’s high time humanity accepts this reality and we work towards ethno States, racial Nationalism, etc.
    If I were “King” of modern day Israel, I’d round up every last Arab in Israel proper and throw them the Hell out!

    1. Mrk Rosenthal It’s high time humanity accepts this reality and we work towards ethno States, racial Nationalism, etc.

      I’ve heard other men say this but I think this is just hopeful thinking. If we indeed sliced the world up into ethno states, do you have any idea how tiny some counties will become?

      Switszerland will split 3 ways, Canada 2, India 200+, Nigeria 200+, Belguim 2, Spain 3 etc…

      the civil wars will become ultra bloody as people fight over mineral rich areas, delta Nigeria, Kinesha Congo.

    2. lol, you are a either a terrible Jew or an excellent troll.

      If I were king of Israel I’d round up all the West Bank settlers, imprison them, compromise into the 1967 borders with the Palis, then shut off access to the entire state welfare system for the ultra-Orthodox.

    3. If I were “King” of modern day Israel, I’d round up every last Arab in Israel proper and throw them the Hell out!

      Why do you suppose the actual “Kings” of Israel don’t that?

  6. Talking about it doesn’t count; only action counts.

    They’ve already done it twice. Once in 1948, again in 1967. Also they did it a lot in a slow way in the 1950’s. Little if any since 1967.

    It’s one Hell of a thing to talk about in the halls of your Knesset. Could you imagine if Americans were seriously talking about throwing out 20% of the population due to ethnicity? The only people I know who talk like that are White nationalists. I really think Zionism is similar to “White nationalism for Jews.” They’re both ethnic nationalisms, they’re both racist to the core, and they are both predicated on dealing with the ethnic Other via apartheid, expulsion or separation.

    Ethnic nationalism is terrible when Whites do it, but it’s great when Jews do it. Jews are such a bunch of hypocrites.

        1. I know, but I play one on TV. Honest, I don’t really mind Jews at all on an individual basis. I mean, I’m not an idiot, I know what they’re like, but to tell the truth, a lot of Jews know what they’re like too.

    1. Ethnic nationalism is terrible when Whites do it, but it’s great when Jews do it. Jews are such a bunch of hypocrites.

      I dunno if this is strictly accurate. Apartheid-era South Africa was pretty much the perfect political incarnation of a white nationalist state, but Israel was huge buddies with them up until the fall of Apartheid, sold them weapons and traded with them and everything.

      1. Good point.

        But in the US and elsewhere in the world, they surely oppose White nationalist movements. Not that I blame them. What’s weird is I suspect that the Apartheid governments were anti-Semitic, or were they not? I know a lot of the hardcore Apartheid types nowadays are real anti-Semites. They say the Jews were behind the ANC.

        Then again, I know some hardcore anti-apartheid people who hated Jews for not opposing apartheid enough. Jews can’t win for losing, I swear. I feel sorry for them sometimes. They can’t do anything right.

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