The 13% Solution: A Modest Proposal?

In the comments, Abiezer Coppe proposes a unique solution to the “Black problem” in US society:

I’m a White integrationist. I’m for integration to the extent that I feel whites in White countries should marry blacks to the extent that the blacks die out as a separate entity. That’s a very blunt way of putting it. Whites would also die out as a separate entity. we’d have “mixité”, a genuinely mixed race society.

If I went to live in Senegal I would expect to learn Wolof and integrate, live by the values if the majority Black society, not hang out in a ghetto of ex-colonial White French people, marry a Senegalese Black girl, and have lovely coffee coloured children. Egalité, Fraternité, Mixité….

Of course in reality this racial mixing is totally impractical. I wouldn’t force it on anyone. A milder version on the integrationist approach is that Blacks integrate with the values of the majority. For this reason I accept the French position on making the wearing of the hijab in public illegal. Black French Muslim women have to abide by the secular values of the French White majority.

Black intermarriage would enrich the white gene pool. Imagine if the USA was mostly White people, but instead of 13% Blacks you had White people who had 13% Black in their genetic makeup? That would be very satisfactory. “Mop’em up, Marry’em off and Wipe’em out”. A wicked thought? Not really. blacks would benefit from our genes and racial conflict would be diminished, because they’d disappear.

We would benefit from Black genes. Pure white people would also disappear. The more racial mixing the better. Mixed race people benefit from the strengths of both racial groups. That always been my view. So we’d all end a light shade of khaki, or slightly olive skinned. So what?

Black ghettos are a terrible thing in White countries. Any kind of racial segregation is. Brixton is partly Black ghetto. It can breed hatred, envy. To be honest I don’t really like living in all White city either. I’d prefer a mixture.

Leicester is a great city. I really like going there. It’s very vibrant culturally, and racial conflict seems to be minimal. But then it”s 30% South Asian, 5% Black, 5% other Asian, and 60% White. The Asians integrate well, and are good business people. I get the impression Chinese/East Asian IQ is high. Koreans, Vietnamese, Chinese and Japanese. Is that your conclusion?

On the question of differential and lower Black intellectual ability, and its inheritability, I remain agnostic because I haven’t seen the evidence.

The Blacks I’ve met have all been very bright – PhD types – with the exception of the Trinidadian woman friend I know, who isn’t intellectual at all. She’s affectionate and sexy as hell though. I would. She always has white boyfriends. She’s figured it out. She goes for White men because in her experience they (we) are more civilised and treat her better than her own kind.

She had two Black (one from Ghana, one from Trinidad) husbands before that. They both abused her and were violent. Anecdotal, I know…

Korean, Japanese and Chinese IQ is all ~108. Highest for any major racial group. Vietnamese IQ is quite high – ~102.5, probably due to Chinese admixture. (Both figures setting US White IQ at 103).

I’m not sure what to say about this except that it’s already been done in the Arab World in places like Libya, Tunisia and Algeria. The Berbers are precisely 13% Black. It’s also been implemented in the entire Arab World outside of Africa. In particular, the Gulf and Palestine already have a 13-19% solution, except there are some light Blacks in Yemen, who cause almost zero problems by the way.

Mexico and Argentina adopted a 4% and 3% solution, respectively. There was a large Black population in Buenos Aires in the late 1800’s. Somehow, they vanished off the face of the Earth and no one knows where they went. Clearly, they must have just bred into the population.

Mexico also had a significant number of Blacks, mostly on the Caribbean Coast. Mexicans will tell you that they mysteriously vanished into thin air, but the truth is that the average Mexican nowadays is 4% Black. Mexico doesn’t have a Black problem. It has a Mexican problem, but that’s another kettle of fish.

White nationalists go ballistic at proposals like this, calling them White genocide. I’m not sure it matters. They also say that the breeding in would not be across the board, and that Colorism a la Brazil would replace racism.

Other WN’s would talk about severe damage to the White gene pool, especially the White IQ. It’s hard to say what the effects on White genes would be. I suspect that there might be a ~2% reduction in the White IQ in the mostly White Berber types. Blacks would not really exist too much anymore, but to the extent that they did, their IQ’s would go up by about 11 points. The Achievement Gap would vanish. There would be no more seething Black ghettos. The crime rate would probably decline radically. Everyone would finally shut up about race for once.

Radical Blacks like the Abagond*-Ankheson Mie types would probably be furious and see this as Black genocide, but it would solve a lot of Black problems, albeit by making the group pretty much vanish.

*I hate to keep bringing up this guy’s name. Maybe I should call it the Abagondsphere. Suffice to say he’s not alone. There is a gigantic section of the Black blogosphere, including bloggers, commenters and readers, all linking to each other continuously, who sound just like this guy. Their whole playbook comes out of  Tim Wise Whiteness Studies Critical Race Theory stuff.

It’s hard to characterize them, but in general, these are educated, intelligent Blacks, often with good incomes. They often have a college education, and it’s not unusual for them to even have advanced degrees like Masters and PhD’s. They often make very good money. It’s almost like the more degrees they have and the more money they make, the angrier, whinier and more grudge-like and CRT-pitching they get.

As a good rule, you don’t hear regular Black people talk like this. I have Black neighbors all around me, and they know nothing of this nonsense. Your average working class type or even Underclass Black doesn’t think much about Whites. Here, they all hang out with Hispanics and Whites. If you’re nice to them, they’re nice to you. They hardly ever talk about White people. They see me wearing my Obama tshirt with my Obama bumper sticker and they run up to me and hug me.

Or they come up to me and talk about Tea Partiers. “You see these racist Tea Partiers? Can you believe that?” I’ll imitate Paul Mooney and say something like, “Yeah, fuck those crackers. Hell with those honkies. Those silly White people. They hatin’ on Obama. It’s all because he’s Black.” And they give me a high five.

They aren’t ingrates at all.

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114 thoughts on “The 13% Solution: A Modest Proposal?”

  1. Okay, so if we enact this plan of wiping out black Americans by interbreeding, do I get to choose the white woman I am to impregnate? Or do whites choose this for me. Because I’d like to put in my bid for Meagan Fox.

        1. I cannot say I’m exactly a big fan of this plan either.

          Then again, I’m not an integrationist like Robert.

        2. BAG, if you are not an integrationist like Robert, what exactly is your plan for the 37 million or so blacks currently residing in the United States?

        3. My plan. Well, partitioning or voluntary separation, Louis Farrakhan/Nation of Islam style wouldn’t be bad.

        4. You mean actually creating separate nations along racial lines ala the White Nationalist party line? I’m not sure that will ever be practical in the United States.

        5. I think the whole elimination of black culture through interbreeding with whites notion would work out pretty well, although that is probably at least 100 years away.

        6. Well no, there are elements of black culture/people that are indeed positive.

          However, I think I can speak for many whites when I say that there are various elements of black culture that are indeed negative, and that sadden us when we see white kids emulating that culture.

          -Sagging pants/ghetto culture
          -“the tude”
          -Confrontational/in your face attitude (related to “the tude”)

          etc.

          Believe me, contrary to the protests of various anti-racists, these black stereotypes exist for a reason. I’ve known/observed blacks who have fit the stereotype.

          Trust me. They’re not the figments of the wicked white media’s imagination.

        7. Tulio: The net result would most likely be the simultaneous elimination of both Black and White culture, and fusion into a sort of Brazilian-style cultural scheme, where class is more important of a social distinguisher than race.

  2. BAG: Guess what? There are no solutions to the American race problem. At least under infidel capitalism anyway. That’s the message of Liberal Race Realism: there probably are no solutions to this shit. We can ameliorate things and make them better, or things can get worse, but there will be no solutions. Though the 13% thing might work. I suppose White separatism works too, but it’s undoable.

    Got it? There *are no solutions to the race thing.*

    Main thing as I see it is don’t make it worse. Don’t import anymore types likely to go Underclass on us of any race, including Blacks. We have enough problems with homegrown Blacks.

    1. Well then, that’s certainly an anti-immigration argument.

      We don’t need even more blacks and browns to compound the problem.

      1. I don’t mind Blacks and Browns at all. I just want them very high quality. African immigrants to the US should be a model for Black and Brown immigration to the US. Maybe give them an IQ test and make them average 98 as a group, something like that.

        1. No, to me education and income have nothing to do with it.

          It’s all about race.

          Take our West Indian and African friends Abagond and Ank Mie.

          We don’t want to import future black radicals.

        2. BAG, I’m not saying this as an attack, but have you ever consider relocating to a country with a whiter population? Since race is of most concern to you, do you think you’d be happier uprooting and moving to Ukraine or Russia? You’d also be amongst people who would share most your sentiments. To me, you sound like a square peg in a round hole living in the Bay Area. When WNs say they want an all white or nearly all white country where the whites don’t want immigration to change things, such places currently exist. Like Russia. Why haven’t you considered moving there?

        3. Yeah, well I cannot speak Russian and Russia is too poor and I wouldn’t enjoy the same freedoms I do here.

          You know, I actually think that country would be Argentina. Too bad I don’t speak Spanish.

          But actually, no, retreating would be cowardly. Rather than run away, I’m here to fight. And what better place to fight than the Bay Area? You’ve got to fight on the front lines if you want to really win.

          And also, maybe it’s just blacks that I need to completely get away from, because they’re the main non-white group I have a problem with.

          Perhaps some part of California far away from Oakland or similar cities would be good.

          Or some state such as Iowa.

        4. Also, Tulio, would you apply that logic to many disgruntled black radicals such as Abagond and Ank Mie and tell them to move to a majority black country if they dislike whites and white America so much?

        5. I’m not at all familiar with this Ank Mie person and don’t know his or her views. As for Abagond, I don’t get the impression he hates whites or is anti-white. I think he hates racism. On the flipside, if someone criticizes blacks, I don’t think that means they are anti-black or hate black people. Some people that do that hate blacks of course, but not all.

        6. As for Abagond, I don’t get the impression he hates whites or is anti-white. I think he hates racism.

          I hear that all the time. “Oh, we don’t hate whites, we just hate racism.”

          Well yeah, nice, but guess what? In the minds of these types of blacks, all whites are racist.

          Going by their very liberal definition of racism, that is.

          So by extension, they do despise whites.

          And anyway, that doesn’t answer my question. I answered yours.

        7. Sure if a black felt he absolutely cannot live around whites, then sure, why not leave to somewhere else. Many black Americans went to Liberia for just that reason

  3. Dear Abiezer
    If mixité were such an effective solution to racial problems, there would be perfect racial harmony in Latin America, but there isn’t.
    France has decided to forbid face-covering attire, the niqab and burka, not the hijab. The hijab only covers the neck and hair. I can see no difference between the hijab and the traditional headdress of Catholic nuns.
    I don’t think that immigrants have an obligation to conform to the majority. In a liberal-democratic order, all citizens have an obligation to obey the law and play by democratic rules, but there is no obligation for the minority to conform to the majority, neither for immigrants nor for others. It is a defining characteristic of a liberal society that we don’t all have to march to the same drummer as long as we march within the law.

    Regards. James

    1. Dear James
      Apologies for the terminological inexactitude! You are right, of course. I’m aware that mixité isn’t a solution to racial conflict: we would never be mixed enough and individuals would continue to pick up on observable racial difference. I put it out there as a provocation. Robert seems to have picked it up. The failure of mixité points back to social class and socio-economic status, plus educational level, as more important factors than racial phenotype in the creation of conflict in human societies.

      On the question of the burqa, I really part company with every PC multiculturalist, every cultural relativist, every postmodernist, and every liberal on the planet, and I applaud French secularism and universalism. Wearing the burka is less a clothing choice, than a social signifier. For what does the wearing of the burka signify: THE INVISIBILITY OF WOMEN. What is the implicit message of wearing the burka to women?

      “Hide. Hide from the world. Take orders from your man. Do not celebrate your sexuality. Do not claim your place in society. Do not claim your power. Your place is at home, your mission to breed.”

      We can’t have that in a society that attempts (unsuccessfully, I know) to take sexual equality seriously. I know Muslim women who agree with me. As you know there is no Qu’ranic justification for covering the face either. In urban Morocco, a Sunni Muslim country, women not as a rule wear the burka (apart from some of the young who identify with Islamism).

      Aged 19, in 1975, I travelled through an as yet un war torn Afghanistan. Although most women wore clothing covering every inch of their bodies in one of the hottest climates in the world, I met educated women in Kabul who did not wear the facial covering BECAUSE THEY HAD THE CHOICE. If we permit the wearing of the burka are we not by implication CAVING INTO MEDIEVAL VALUES?

      Cheers,

      Paul aka Mr Coppe.

      PS As one of the most thoughtful and interesting commentators on Robert’s blog, and one who writes exceptionally well, an occasional post from yourself on a subject that interests you would be most welcome James.

  4. Quote : She always has white boyfriends. She’s figured it out. She goes for White men because in her experience they (we) are more civilised and treat her better than her own kind.

    LOL …. nice one ,Trinis mix very easily, their is a large mix race population, you could easily find women who like you and not because they think you are the most civilised or have a sad story of abuse.

  5. Quote : I’m a White integrationist. I’m for integration to the extent that I feel whites in White countries should marry blacks to the extent that the blacks die out as a separate entity. That’s a very blunt way of putting it. Whites would also die out as a separate entity. we’d have “mixité”, a genuinely mixed race society.

    Good idea , i said something of the sort a while back, whites wouldn’t have to lose their form or color, just look at Rashida jones .

    1. Was that a friendly suggestion or smartass remark?

      I mean, Robert, you know where I’m coming from, right?

      Not saying you have to accept my views or agree with them. But there’s a reason why I think the way I do. I didn’t just wake up and decide to become a pseudo-white nationalist for the heck of it.

      1. Friendly suggestion. There’s even two or three WN’s I have heard of in the area. I lived there for 16 years.

        Yes I’ve known for a long time that you’re a racist and a White nationalist. At least you admit it. Now everyone should leave you alone about it. There’s a lot worse things to me, anyway, racists are a dime a dozen.

        1. Yeah, I’ve been thinking about Liberal Race Realism, but just cannot do it.

          White nationalists at least are actively fighting for whites and promoting policies/practices that will benefit my people.

          You see Robert, I’m part the 90s born generation of whites. We’re the ones who will get screwed by multiracialism in the future, not you or my parents.

          And yes, there are far worse things I could be than a racist pseudo-white nationalist.

          I don’t drink, do drugs, steal, take advantage of vulnerable people, etc.

          Yeah, I could do far worse.

        2. Yes I’ve known for a long time that you’re a racist and a White nationalist. At least you admit it

          Yeah, I used to think of myself as a white advocate fighting in a sea of multiracial dogma and Cultural Marxism.

          But the more I think about it, my views and what I wish to accomplish is very similar to what WN’s want.

          I don’t agree with their biological racialism/determinism, but much of what they say resonates with me.

          So I just said fuck it. I might as well embrace the white nationalist label honestly and proudly. To me, fighting for your people is no reason to be ashamed.

          And like you said, there are far worse things you can be than a racist.

        3. What’s funny is that there was even a time when I flirted with anti-racism and actually believed that these types could be reasoned with.

          But the more I read anti-racist blogs, the more and more I start to think WN thoughts.

          You just cannot pacify or try to live in harmony with these types.

          Might as well fight for my people.

  6. I agree with BAG here. These Black haters are all like this. “We don’t hate Whites. We just hate White racism!” Bla bla. Guess what? More Blacks are seriously racist than Whites anymore. Blacks 34%, Whites 31%, by survey. There’s White nationalist websites set up where all they do is “fight Black racism.”

    You know what I hate? I hate Black crime and Black pathology. I don’t hate Blacks or anything. I just hate Blacks who do fucked up, evil shit, which is like many many millions of them. I’m going to set up a website to attack Blacks for their crime and evildoing shit. It won’t attack Blacks per se or anything. Just the bad ones. There’s tons of sites like that all over the Net set up by White nationalists. All racist as fuck.

    “We don’t hate Whites. We just hate White racism!”

    Just the last hate-Whitey crap from radical Blacks. It’s kind of frightening because it seems like there’s so many of them out there these days on the Internet anyway.

    You know, if I ran a business and a Black came in, I would ask them flat out if they hate Whites. And if I ever caught them using this Critical Race Theory talk in my workplace, I’d fuckin fire em. They can go work for Blacks if they hate Whites so much.

    The hate-Whitey gripe and grudge thing doesn’t cut it. We Whites still run this society. Blacks need to suck up and act nice to Whites and seek our approval, otherwise it ain’t gonna work. As long as they do that and behave, we like em just fine.

    1. You know, if I ran a business and a Black came in, I would ask them flat out if they hate Whites. And if I ever caught them using this Critical Race Theory talk in my workplace, I’d fuckin fire em. They can go work for Blacks if they hate Whites so much.

      Hey, now that’s the Robert Lindsay that I’ve come to respect over all these months commenting here! 🙂

      No sarcasm intended. Honestly.

      1. I won’t speak for Robert, but I think he’s saying that if blacks want to be accepted by us, they’d better start acting courteous and showing some gratitude.

        Not saying they have to or that they should. But if they want us to accept them, well, tough.

        I agree with Robert. If I were an employer and I discovered that any of my employees were these Abagond Critical Race Theorist types, I would fire their asses.

        1. You want a job? You want me to be nice to you? You want me to even be civil to you? Speaking to all Blacks here. Then be nice and knock off all the grudge crap. Otherwise I don’t see why we should give Blacks anything.

          And I’d have no problem with Whites discriminating in employment, schooling or housing against hate-Whitey Blacks. If Blacks have a shitty attitude, then fuck em. If that’s how they feel, they can fuck off and move to Detroit.

          If they want to buy a house, rent an apartment, get a job, or get me to cooperate with them in any way, they can try being nice and civil.

        2. You’d fire someone for what they think? Who cares what people think. As long as their views aren’t being promoted on the job and it isn’t interfering with their job performance and they are making my business profitable, I’m not interested in the private thoughts of my employees. What if someone fired you from your job if they somehow looked up your posts on this blog?

          You guys are acting like angry teenagers tonight. Is it something in the air?

        3. I don’t know, Tulio.

          Robert’s sounding like me tonight! 🙂

          I guess reading the black blogosphere really can whip up whites like us into frenzies.

          I don’t know. Maybe if I went into hibernation for a month and never thought about race, I would no longer be a white nationalist.

          It might be worth a shot!

      2. It’s the only way to get along in White society.

        I remember growing up in the 1970’s, there were some Blacks in my town. Almost none. They just assimilated to White culture, never mentioned race, and basically just acted like White people. They were not antagonistic in any way shape or form. Of course almost everyone totally accepted them like they were almost White people with some interesting genetics.

        If a Black person acts like that, you have to be a real asshole to hate their genetics.

        Whites run this society. As long as we do, I figure this is the only way or the best way for Blacks to get by. This perpetual grievance shit from these bourgeois middle and upper middle class Blacks just doesn’t work. It’s stupid. Maybe in an all-Black city like Detroit, ok. But otherwise, they’re just digging their graves. They have to make us like them.

        If they’re acting all hostile and grudge-like, most Whites are going to be like fuck off. And we got the power and money in society. It’s simply a dumb thing for Blacks to do.

        1. If Blacks have a fuck-Whitey attitude like all these bloggers and their fans, I figure we have a right to discriminate against them:

          1. Jobs
          2. Schooling
          3. Housing sales
          4. Apartment renting
          5. General cooperation

          Discrimination on race? Forget it. Discrimination on attitude? You got it. I imagine it is legal, or at least it ought to be.

          1. Oh, I see. This is just some more of that White venting, that White anger and resentment – like the “Just you wait until we’re not in charge anymore” business.

        2. You don’t have to like us or anything, just at least pretend and make the effort. Be an actor or actress. As soon as we leave, you can curse us all you want. That’s what White Society is all about: Make it look good. Blacks don’t get this. They are all about arrogance, in your face and what are you gonna do about it. That is so offensive to us, oh man.

          Like those African students in China. Who cares what their game was? They should have made it look good. The White thing to do would be to make it look good. Make friends with Chinese guys, make alliances.

          The rule in White society is: Don’t get your ass kicked. A lot of us walk around all day long trying not to get our asses kicked. If you mess up, you get tons of warnings, then threats, then blows. And no one will defend you. This is how we police our society.

          Blacks seem to just throw all this aside and do the “Screw making it look good.” It’s all about, “rub it in your face, haha, What you gonna do about it?” Like those African students.

          And what happened? They got their asses kicked.

          1. In other words, bow and scrape and grin, and be extremely deferential – like in my great-grandparents’ day?

        3. Tulio. I can’t answer for Robert, but I would say yes.

          Palestinians are perpetual troublemakers. Just ask the Lebanese.

        4. Alpha, every immigrant group that has come to this country has had to “bow and grin,” with perhaps the exception being the Mexicans. They bow and point out how they really should own the place, because of some war they lost in the 1840’s.

          Black folks may have been given a shitty deal through slavery, but they are still a minority in relation to “Middle America.” That is never going to change. They can totally assimilate into “white” mainstream culture(think Obama), which is unlikely, or they can continue down the current route, as a independent “group.”

          Obviously, as a cultural group, the choice will be theirs to make in the long term. From my vantage point, I would argue assimilation is more profitable.

          1. I am very much pro-assimilation. What I am objecting to is Robert’s insistence that Blacks “suck up” to Whites and make Whites like us.

  7. BAG, I like you a lot better this way. For a long time you were hiding and denying your beliefs, and it was really starting to piss me off. At least now you’re honest and in that at least, I respect you.

    1. Why thank you!

      Well, I wouldn’t say that I was necessarily hiding my views. My views were well known.

      I was just cowardly when it came to proudly wearing the white nationalist label.

      I admit, I was cowardly when I tried to euphemistically use other labels to cover my true identity.

      1. I’ve now learned that I shouldn’t shy away from negative rhetorical definitions. And I shouldn’t try to come up with euphemistic terms to counter that.

        Now, I don’t care if other people define white nationalist negatively or if they’ll seek to poison the well against people like me.

        No more rhetorical games on my part.

        Now, I proudly wear the labels.

        1. Hehe.

          So does that mean we’re not cool?

          Not that I’ll lose any sleep depending on the answer.

          Just wondering.

        2. Ok you guys, leave him alone now. I want these racists and WN’s to just come out and admit it and quit beating around the bush. What the Hell, there’s 100’s of million of anti-Black racists in the world. You gonna fight em all.

          What infuriates me way more is when they won’t admit it.

          +1 for honesty.

        3. It’s not like I know you personally. This is just an anonymous forum to throw out ideas. That you’ve come out the closet as a WN isn’t going to make me lose any sleep either. Now if one of my white friends came out an said he’s a WN, I might be distraught, but I don’t know you as anything but a screen character.

          It’s plain as day that what WN want(i.e. separate racial territories), will never ever happen. So joining such a movement to me is like joining the flat earth society. But if that’s how you choose to spend your time, to each his own.

        4. That you’ve come out the closet as a WN isn’t going to make me lose any sleep either.

          Come out the closet? Okay, I guess I did set myself up for that one.

          Touche.

          So joining such a movement to me is like joining the flat earth society.

          Well, I recognize that some of their visions are a bit unrealistic, but come on, I hardly think that it’s similar to a flat earth society.

          Unlike the flat earth people, we make some very valid and logical points.

          to each his own.

          Agreed.

          I mean, the way I see it, I’m a racist, demented person no matter what I do, so I might as well go all out and be a white nationalist.

          But look out Tulio, I am one of your white friends! Muahaha! 🙂

          No, just kidding.

  8. In other words, bow and scrape and grin, and be extremely deferential – like in my great-grandparents’ day?

    Just be nice. That’s the rule in White society. If Blacks can’t be nice, then fuck em. Like I said, they can move to Detroit. They can go a whole day there without seeing one evil White devil. They can work for and with Blacks, rent from Blacks, buy from Blacks, go to school with Blacks.

    It’s common sense. Whites rule this society. If Blacks want anything from us, they ought to be nice. Otherwise I say fuck em.

    1. You know, Robert, just as you like me more for my forthrightness, I’ve just gained a greater sense of respect for you.

      No anti-racist, let’s integrate rhetoric/posturing.

      Real tough, uncompromising attitude. That’s the attitude that whites as a whole need to adopt.

      You’ve really impressed me tonight, Robert.

      1. It already is. Lots of Whites already discriminate against Blacks based on attitude. I hear it all the time, especially in employment. Good for them. If a Black wants to work for Whites, they better be nice, or it’s bye bye. They can go work for their own people instead.

    2. Robert,

      Whites rule parts of the US. The majority of the areas. South Central LA, South Chicago is ruled by blacks, as are just about any black ghetto in any US city. The problem is, blacks rule in a way which is not well understood by whites or Asians.

      But black forms of hierarchy, dominance, control
      are as real for them as white forms are for whites.

      Large tracts and areas of LA is ruled by Mexicans.
      East LA. Pico Rivera. Mexicans have their own kinds of policing activities. Not as off-chart as blacks, but pretty damn near the edge of the chart.

      When you say “whites rule the US”, that’s just silly. But, it’s okay, because sometimes you have a ghetto mentality and this is a ghetto blog. And I don’t mean this as in insult, btw. LOL.

  9. I don’t want to sound like a smartass, but aren’t there more important, urgent topics we could be discussing other than a few disgruntled, radical blacks? For instance, the impending dollar crash, imminent war with Iran, and the increasingly Orwellian police state that is called the USA? These are things that will affect EVERYBODY regardless of their race or what have you, and they are not 10 years away, they are literally staring us in the face.

      1. So you’re saying you’re confident that these things won’t happen? Even when evidence for it is all around us despite the retarded “citizenry” of this country not being able to see what’s going on?

        1. I’m not into miserable, hopeless, end of the world shit. I’ve got my own problems. I’m an optimist who likes to have fun. And likes to fight. Likes to have fun and fight. Hehe. 😉

        2. Of course, FPY, as a regular reader of articles by Paul Craig Roberts, I know all too well about our disastrous foreign policy, the collapse of the dollar, and the further obstruction of our rights.

          Believe me, these issues have not escaped my radar. As you well know, I’m all about holding neocons/liberals/other fools responsible for this.

          However, at least for this topic, we’re discussing black radicals.

          I’m sure Robert will write another post dealing with the collapsing economy and neocon aggression/imperialism, as he has in the past.

  10. I love bashing these radical, hate-Whitey Blacks. It’s *fun*. Hehe. If they hate us so much, why don’t they just take off to one of their Black paradises in the Caribbean or Africa or whatever. No Whites there to ever bother your sorry Black ass ever again. You’ll be able to live in peace.

  11. You’d fire someone for what they think? Who cares what people think. As long as their views aren’t being promoted on the job and it isn’t interfering with their job performance and they are making my business profitable, I’m not interested in the private thoughts of my employees. What if someone fired you from your job if they somehow looked up your posts on this blog?

    If they keep it to themselves, it’s fine. I would even say that they can hate us all they want to, but they ought to keep it to themselves and *pretend* to like us.

    Yeah, I’ve been fired many, many, many times for my mindset, etc. Welcome to White World, where nothing is private and putting on the show is everything.

    I’ll probably never hire anyone anyway.

  12. Just curious, do you think the Palestinians should take the same attitude with the Israelis?

    They probably already do. Lots of Pallies used to go work in Israel every day or every week. I assume they had to suck it up and put on a nice show or get canned. That’s the name of the game, bro. I don’t understand Blacks. What is it about, “Make it look good,” that they don’t understand? This is an axiom in White society.

    Since when are US Blacks “oppressed” (LOL) like the Pallies are? Do you live in an alternate universe?

    1. Since when are US Blacks “oppressed” (LOL) like the Pallies are? Do you live in an alternate universe?

      Yeah, I had to give Tulio the side-eye for that as well.

      It seems that blacks believe they’re the most oppressed people on the face of the earth. And if you point out that perhaps that’s not true, then they accuse you of the “oppression olympics” gambit.

      Funny thing is that blacks themselves believe in the oppression olympics, and in their minds they’re the undisputed gold medalists, and to question them amounts to “derailment,” “oppression olympics,” etc.

      But yeah, even Abagond admits that what blacks go through in the U.S is nothing compared to what the Palestinians go through.

  13. I don’t know, Tulio.

    Robert’s sounding like me tonight! 🙂

    I guess reading the black blogosphere really can whip up whites like us into frenzies.

    I’m on Prednisone. High dose too. Every time I go on this shit, I get ampy and aggro. Last time I was on it for a week, and almost got in 2 fistfights in a week. This time is better. I almost got in 2 fistfights in one night. LOL! Damn this is fun man. Be careful of that drug. It’s really weird.

    I don’t know. Maybe if I went into hibernation for a month and never thought about race, I would no longer be a white nationalist.

    It might be worth a shot!

    The most important thing in life to worry about is your own shit. If you’re worrying about extraneous shit all day, there’s a good chance you are doing that in order to dodge your own shit. Your life comes first, everything else, deep second or way last.

    1. The most important thing in life to worry about is your own shit. If you’re worrying about extraneous shit all day, there’s a good chance you are doing that in order to dodge your own shit. Your life comes first, everything else, deep second or way last.

      Yeah, maybe I just have to become a selfish dick like you! 🙂

      No insult intended. (you yourself once said you were a selfish dick)

      1. Think about it. It’s smart. Or study Buddhism. If you study Buddhism, you learn this as one of the first truths.

        *We all care more about ourselves than anyone else in the whole world.*

        That’s the human condition. If you’re derailed into other stuff all the time, that’s not all that healthy. Your own life comes first. Think about it.

  14. It’s not like I know you personally. This is just an anonymous forum to throw out ideas. That you’ve come out the closet as a WN isn’t going to make me lose any sleep either. Now if one of my white friends came out an said he’s a WN, I might be distraught, but I don’t know you as anything but a screen character.

    It’s plain as day that what WN want(i.e. separate racial territories), will never ever happen. So joining such a movement to me is like joining the flat earth society. But if that’s how you choose to spend your time, to each his own.

    The proper attitude to take. I swear I could have put those ideas into your head myself. Leave him alone on his WN stuff, but go ahead and take him on if he bashes your people, if you wish. I respect anyone who stands up for their race in a way. Even BAG.

    1. but go ahead and take him on if he bashes your people

      Hey, I’m always up for a good fight!

      But no, I’ll try not to go overboard like many other WN’s and only bash them if they deserve it.

      1. And I will continue to take on those who bash my people.

        Robert, I tell you, your views are interesting. You probably don’t have a high opinion of me on account of me being a white nationalist, and yet you espouse many views that would be deemed racist (ie. spread em out and civilize them, they’d better suck up to us in public, they’re ungrateful, etc).

        I can understand why you are opposed to many WN’s. Even I don’t agree with a good amount of what they say. Their rhetoric (like the frequent use of “bantu,” “afrovoodoo,” “low IQ savages,” etc) and biological determinism unsettle me a bit. So does their endorsement of eugenics.

        But if you could get beyond that more rough element, and perhaps look at my brand of white nationalism, or Jew Among You’s, then perhaps you wouldn’t have such a negative opinion of it.

        And as you’ve said, you respect those who stand up for their race. And you’re pro-white, correct?

        Now, I’m not necessarily trying to convert you to white nationalism, but maybe reconsider your hostility towards it.

        I mean, don’t you care about your people?

      1. What about you?

        Well, I think that as an Asian nationalist, you can understand where I’m coming from.

        While you can be a bit rough around the edges at time, I respect you because you stand up for Asians.

        But I don’t know what you meant by that question.

        1. I was asking Rob if he also respected me because I sure as hell stand up for my race, and I’m not timid about calling out the sewer rats who I feel are acting disrespectfully.

        1. You do that. I’m even sympathetic to you on the White guys stealing Asian women or Asian women slutting for the White guys and leaving Asia men in the lurch thing. White guys are going through a similar dynamic with White women, but I don’t want to discuss it on here, because everyone will jump all over me and ridicule me.

        2. If Asian women are indeed attracted to brains, they would mostly want to stick with their own kind, no? Or is it mostly Filipinos?

    1. It’s not such a big step down, but it’s not like Asians are some underclass, crime-ridden, low-income group in this country, at least NE Asians.

      1. What I meant was that if, unlike other women, Asian women select for brains, there should be no rationale for outmarrying.

        1. Why are you trying to understand how women think? That’s impossible in the best of times. Just assume that they are crazy in some way, and let it go at that. Try to figure it out, but don’t waste much time. I suspect that in both cases, there is simple animal magnetism going on.

      2. What can I say? White women are highly intelligent. They are only 5 IQ pts below Asian women. In large numbers, they reject White guys for you know what race. Guys who are really dumb, refuse to work, live off the women, frankly are abusive towards them, etc. The women shower these guys with gifts beyond your wildest imagination. These are smart White women with good jobs, college degrees, even advanced degrees and PhD’s. No race of men treats women better than we do, but these bitches demand a net worth statement before they date us, abuse us, call us wimps, fags and pussies, attack our masculinity, never buy us anything, surely don’t support us if we don’t work (in fact live off us and suck every dime) then reject us for men of another race whom they shower with gifts, allow to live off them and never work, let them cheat on them, and frankly put up with their super aggro, abusive behavior.

        See any parallels with what Asian chicks are doing to you? I understand that a lot of Asian women are going for White guys who mistreat them, are abusive and cruel, refuse to work and live off the women, cheat on them, etc.

        It’s obviously a similar dynamic going on here.

        Asian men are not inferior to White men. White men are not inferior to Black men.

        1. I just don’t notice the epidemic of black male/white female relationships you’re referring to. Isn’t it still pretty rare? You’re making it seem as if it is as common as white male/Asian female combo. And is there a Western colonial aspect to the white guy/Asian girl combo in your opinion?

        2. There’s more of it than you think. It’s just that White women in general are not marrying these guys or having kids with them. A lot of the women doing this are older. These guys make lousy husbands anyway. It seems like there is less of it since there is not much marriage going on. Also, there’s lots of White women and few Black men, so few White women can outmarry.

  15. Rob, so you’re saying that a white woman will, if she’s going to outmarry, choose an unemployed ghetto hoodlum over an Asian guy who makes good money from a software engineering company?

    1. I’m not sure if this will help you at all, but these sweeping statements don’t apply to everyone. You know that already, but to give you a specific example: one of the most desirable men in my class at college was *gasp* chinese. Smart, good looking, played in a band, had a secure line to a quality supplier of weed. I fought for him, and I got him. Unfortunately, because I’m a white woman, that probably screws with your asian nationalism too, huh? Look, it’s too late. In my family, more than 1/3rd of my aunts/uncles have mixed-race marriages; in his family, it’s more than 50%. That’s what happens when people migrate (he’s 3rd gen). There are still a billion people in China keeping the line pure – why should those in the rest of the world limit their options?

    2. No because no one wants an Asian guy at all because they would rather choose some other non-Asian guy who also makes good money from a software engineering company which wasn’t made or are ever invented/made by Asians.

  16. This idea seems better for Brazil, for example, that has nearly 75% caucausian genetic prevalence, and has some millions of unmixed white people in São Paulo and in the south region that would, in case of intermarrige, breed nearly completely caucasoid people in the first generation and would reach the 22nd century nearly completely white if a solution was found to the minority of really unmixed black people.

    I started thinking of this kind of thing when I started to realize that the migration of mixed Brazilians to my state (nearly 85% white in the beginning of the last century) seems to be irreversible.

    Not mixing doesn´t seem to be an option unless a great overturn takes place.

    The question is:

    If a population gets to be 90-95% white in genes, will it be 90-95% white in BEHAVIOUR, or would the remnant 10-5% never allows us to reach a germanic/anglo-saxan/scandinavian level?

    Would someone interested in this kind of subject help me on this? I am really eager to find a feasible solution to my state, or at least find consolation on a positive answer to my question.

    Best,

  17. DENIS:If a population gets to be 90-95% white in genes, will it be 90-95% white in BEHAVIOUR, or would the remnant 10-5% never allows us to reach a germanic/anglo-saxan/scandinavian level?

    What exactly is a “germanic/anglo-saxon/scandinavian level”? Are you saying that the behavior of Germanic people represents the archtype of “white” behavior? That Germanics are the highest form of whites? I’m not clear on your point.

  18. “So we’d all end a light shade of khaki, or slightly olive skinned. So what?”

    Aren’t those just darker shades of “white people” skin? Like Southern Europeans?

  19. Hi people,

    I live in São Paulo, which is not essentially Brazil, but would like to share some facts that seem undeniable to me to explain why the question that I have made seems to be the only one that matters on the “13% solution” issue.

    1 – I am of mediterranean descent. We are just as intelligent as northern Europeans, but we seem to be prone to carrying grudges and are a bit too rude to express our intelligence as much as Northern European countries. I don´t know if it´s genetic (semitic influence) or simply cultural, but it´s true. I do believe that Northern Europeans/Americans/Australians have shown higher overall development than Italians/Spanish/Portuguese in the last century. Am I wrong?

    2 – Among the completely miscegenated states (who are +-75% white in genes) in Brazil, the ones with higher percentage of White blood have proven to be the most intelligent.

    3 – Miscegenated people from Northern Brazil have proven to be able to reach very good social levels with proper education received here.

    4 – When white people from São Paulo marry miscegenated people from Northern Brazil, their children end up behaving just like other white people around them. They even hate samba/funk and alike as we do.

    5 – The only people who seem “uncorrectable” are the ones from Minas Gerais, extremely keen on frauds and violent murder who are, coincidently, the ones with a lot of jewish blood from the times of Inquisition in Brazil.

    6 – IQ levels are not the only criterion. The Chinese are nominally “superior” to White Americans and haven´t in 2000 years achieved what Americans have achieved in 300 years.

    7 – The simple exaggerated idea that all Brazilians can have black genes, is enough for different colored people nearly never have conflicts.

    8 – Having observed miscegenation of all kinds for 30 years, I am completely sure that if we do not have a big problem with the remnant 10-5% genes of other races in case of complete miscegenation, through means of proper education, psychological treatment and genetic manipulation in the medium/long term, any other considerations are not relevant at all..

    The question is, who believes that the remnant genes/behaviours and their manifestation could be corrected this way?

  20. Just out of curiosity: a friend of mine from Pernambuco, where the Dutch ruled 300 YEARS ago, once went to the doctor and was told that he has a bone feature that is found only in the Dutch people.
    Also, people from this state sometimes are born with deep blue eyes and a a black people´s nose.

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