Blacks and Rape: A Vignette from the Bay Area

Erranter is a new commenter on the site. He’s very smart and he’s a great writer. In fact, he’s a genius, like authors of this site (Especially the owner!) Talking about the casual attitude that many Blacks have towards rape, he writes:

The rape thing sickens me.During the second to last year they had Halloween in the Castro District in San Francisco (before they were shut down due to shootings and stabbings by people who mostly came from Oakland) I was walking with this extremely drunk friend of mine, a girl who was rather hot, when I stopped to make out with some random chick I recognized from my class.

When I looked back at my friend she was puking up a storm, and I had to abandon the other girl and start to walk my friend back to the Muni-tram. She started to lean into me to support herself with puke running all over costume. Well, the Munis were closed because people had been pissing in them, and I ended up wandering around with her, trying to keep her from talking to people and acting too drunk.

Somehow, looking for a bus or a cab, we found ourselves in a less crowded place when several large groups of Black people walked up. Suddenly they started to surround her and me and, men and women alike, they started to shout at me and say that I should rape her because she deserved it for getting so fucked up. They laughed. Then a group slowed to stop and take a closer look at us and cornered us against a shop window.

When I made a move the large men just said, “What you gonna do, huh?” and I stayed put. Then ugly women came up from behind, thrust their fingers out and opened their mouths with their gold teeth and said in raspy voices, “Rape that bitch, rape her.” I feared they they were going to force me to do it. They all thought this was hilarious. All I could really do was look disgusted and try to walk on.

But the men kept blocking me out. I was drunk enough to try to talk and found them laughing at my faces when I did so, such an arrogant laugh, the laugh of a bully or a torturer. Luckily, the crowd started to move. Something was going on, probably a shooting up the road (there were many that night). I got out of the shop window and into a more lighted area. Eventually we caught a ride from some nice Irish people and we all lived happily ever . . .

The relevance is basically this. I grew up in a nice, mostly white town. This was my first major experience with large groups of Black people, and it wasn’t very endearing. How could the men and women alike be encouraging me to rape her?

Then I heard about the ridiculous rates of rape in Africa – I mean it’s almost ubiquitous. Then I heard about a couple of white women I knew getting raped, or date-raped, by Black guys. I’ve never wanted to be racist, like most White liberals, but I just get pissed and can’t handle it anymore.

First of all, let’s be clear that these are Underclass ghetto Blacks from Oakland.

I am frankly shocked at this episode, but I guess it does not surprise me. The rape rates in Africa and the Caribbean are off the charts. I understand that nearly 100% of Haitian women are raped before they are even 18 years old. This in a nation with an HIV rate of 7%.

In African countries with HIV rates still off the charts, Black men often refuse to use condoms, and 100,000’s of women get infected. The South African rape rate is the highest on Earth.

I know six White women who got raped. Three were by Whites; three were by Blacks. Blacks and Hispanics commit rape at about 6 times the rate of White men. That’s 500% more. Not 20%, not 35%, not even 50%. Fully 500%. And I suspect that most of the date rape by Blacks and Hispanics is not even reported.

There is not much I can say about this, as a liberal who is committed to integration and civil rights. But this kind of amplifies my belief that there is something horribly wrong with US Black culture, especially Underclass ghetto culture.

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39 thoughts on “Blacks and Rape: A Vignette from the Bay Area”

  1. I’ve never wanted to be racist, like most White liberals, but I just get pissed and can’t handle it anymore.

    Just be racist and embrace the label.

    Believe me, it’s sooo much better than repressing your beliefs and subscribing to racial liberalism.

    I would know.

      1. Just don’t put in down on a resume.

        Yeah, so true.

        That’s what I like about this blog. This is a place where I can express my true racial beliefs without fear of censure.

        In the real world, not so much.

    1. “I’ve never wanted to be racist, like most White liberals, but I just get pissed and can’t handle it anymore.”

      Just be racist and embrace the label.

      Believe me, it’s sooo much better than repressing your beliefs and subscribing to racial liberalism.

      No, don’t be racist. Please.

      I remain committed to civil rights, anti-racism (of a sort), liberalism and integration. I don’t care how fucked up Blacks act. Civil rights, integration, anti-racism and liberalism is simply the right thing to do.

      Be a Liberal Race Realist. Reject racism and PC racial liberalism both. Best of both worlds!

      1. Civil rights, integration, anti-racism and liberalism is simply the right thing to do.

        Be a Liberal Race Realist. Reject racism and PC racial liberalism both. Best of both worlds!

        Such a tough balancing act, though.

        How do you manage?

        I love your Liberal Race Realism ideology, but I don’t know if I can embrace it in its entirety.

        1. LOL, Liberal Race Realism is simply the ideology of your average White liberal. Of course they are not racists, but most of them don’t buy that Critical Race Theory shit either. They really are Liberal Race Realists, and they have little or no solutions to most race problems except to keep them from getting worse. Most liberals will not admit to be LRR’s though, at least not in public.

          I mean come on man. White liberals move to all White towns. They put their kids in all White schools. Because the are racist shits? Hell no. But they ain’t stupid. Most liberals don’t even believe in racial liberalism. I mean, maybe they say they do, but what matters if you walk the walk.

      2. Yes, it’s sad that these labels, liberal, conservative, etc, are like all-inclusive cruises (no substitutions allowed!). If you get on the liberal boat you can’t skip the “race-equality” island tour and jump right to “economic egalitarianism”. If you sneak away to “race realism” island and you find that everybody there is from the “conservative boat” and you don’t really get along with them or agree with everything else they say, except on this specific issue. So you paddle back to your liberal boat for economic, social issues and find that everyone’s wondering where you were. But when they prod you and you tell them where you went, they shun you and won’t let you back on the boat. Then you’re just floating and finally come up with “liberal race realism” but by that point neither side wants to hear it. Problem is, you face social facts, and liberals don’t like facts, but you also have a sense of social justice and believe in progress, which conservatives don’t like.

        “A man who has both feet planted firmly in the air can be safely called a liberal as opposed to the conservative, who has both feet firmly planted in his mouth” Jacques Barzun

  2. I used to live in Oakland. Oh, I remember the place well. High Street and International Boulevard. More Ph.D’s per capita than Compton, for sure.

    Carry a curved, serrated blade, hidden. Always. Be eager to use it. Don’t ever flash it. Ever. You pull it, you use it. Keep an eye for a jugular. Blacks are bigger but slower. Have fun. Slash away. No need to kill. Just cut the face. It’s just bullshit violence.

    Cheers!

    P.S…My sister lived in San Francisco while I lived in Oakland. She got attacked twice. Both times by Black males. Once, on a bus driven by a Black driver, who did nothing to help her. Didn’t even stop the bus.

    Gotta help a “brother” out, I suppose. Personally, I would have broken a fellow “Middle Easterner’s” ribs in, just on principle. It’s reflects badly on the group. 😀

  3. I don’t even know why I’m bothering to respond. I’m at the point where I pretty much just want to ignore stories that go….”A bunch of bad black people did something horrible to me…now I hate blacks!”

    Did Bill Cosby start hating whites because a white man murdered his son? Look, people who are already predisposed to racism will let a bad incident with a member of a certain race intensify their racism. People who aren’t realize there are creeps and assholes in all groups and the majority of people pretty much mind their business. Now this guy, a 100 other black people could’ve walked by him that day and paid him no attention. Yet one bunch did and that’s the only one that matters to him. You could be white and walk across a bunch of Hell’s Angels on Halloween night, look at someone the wrong way and get your face smashed. Would you then hate all whites now? Of course not.

    1. Also, as for rape in Africa, if you google “rape in Africa”, virtually all the reports are from one country: S. Africa. Now if there was an epidemic of rape in Greece, you wouldn’t hear people talk about rape as a white problem or European continental problem, it would be referred to as a Greek problem. Sorry to get all critical race theory on you guys, but here we go again. Any bad behavior of blacks speaks for the entire group, even blacks that live in countries thousands of miles away with completely different cultures. They’re blacks, they obviously are all the same. Whites of course are not all the same! If a white behaves badly, that’s just a reflection of that white person as an individual!

      You also mentioned the Caribbean, but outside of Haiti, I don’t hear of any rape epidemics. If it were that bad, I wouldn’t think so many tourists would go there. The Bahamas and Barbados are all black, is there a rape epidemic there?

      1. Blacks have high rape rates in all places where there are Blacks: In Africa, in the Caribbean, in the USA. Also, Black minorities commit tons of rape in Western Europe. In Finland and Norway, nearly 100% of the rapes are done by Blacks these days. I’ve seen the statistics.

        There are some places where Blacks may have a low rape rate, and that is in Muslims states of the Sahel, Yemen and North Africa. The rape rates in these places are nearly zero. I heard that in socialist Mozambique, the rape rates were extremely low also. So there’s nothing forcing Blacks to rape people, but in most cases, Black males will commit tons of rape.

        Early reporters to Black Africa reported that rape was nearly epidemic all over the continent.

        1. Quote :” Blacks have high rape rates in all places where there are Blacks: In Africa, in the Caribbean, in the USA”

          Robert, outside of Haiti and the probably Dominican Republic rape in the Caribbean is pretty low.
          Not every place that blacks reside are a cesspool of depravity.

        2. In Finland and Norway, nearly 100% of the rapes are done by Blacks these days. I’ve seen the statistics.

          Robert, those statistics say North Africans who are actually in your family tree from the Caucasian side.

          tulio- besides South Africa, the Congo also has a huge problem. Now what do the Congo and South Africa have in common?

          Erranter is full of crap. I ain’t buying it that a large number of blk women were in that circle. He totally made that story up. Blk women don’t wish rape on white women anymore than they do other blk women. Sick sick sick shit man.

    2. There’s way, way, way more Blacks who act bad like this than Whites who act bad like this. It’s a numbers game, and a culture game. Those Underclass Blacks were from the Oakland ghetto. The behavior they were displaying was straight from their culture – that is, if a woman is that fucked up, you’re supposed to rape her! If for no other reason, than to punish her for being so stupid as to get that drunk. Even the women agree! In large numbers! Good God, that’s barbaric man.

      For the life of me, I cannot imagine any possible large groups of Whites anywhere in these benighted states who would behave this way. It’s simply incomprehensible. A few Whites might say, “Rape the bitch,” if she’s that drunk, but that would be a really outrageous and almost illegal thing to say. In White culture, you’re not supposed to do that.

      That’s considered to be the ultimate in low class behavior, the lowest of the low. If a chick got that drunk at a party, and some guy tried to rape her, the other Whites would probably stop him. Because in White culture, you’re not supposed to fuck some chick just because she’s sloppy drunk. You’re…”not acting White.”

      And in White culture, you’re supposed to act White. If you don’t act White, you’re almost expelled from White society. If you rape a falling down drunk woman, you’re “acting like a nigger,” or you’re “acting like a Black or a Mexican.” White culture is all about acting better and higher than those groups, which are seen as behaviorally lower and inferior.

      You don’t get it, do you, tulio? Everything is still seen through the lens of White racism. It just shows that you don’t understand us at all.

      1. In White culture, you’re not supposed to rape a woman who’s drunk?

        I think there are some groups of White guys, some of them on campuses, who never got that lesson in Whiteness.

        1. Look man, I could read this anecdote to many a black person and they would tell you they’ve never seen such a thing. Believe it or not, many black men have daughters themselves and don’t want to see them raped. I’ve never in my life met a black person that advocated raping drunk women. Believe it or not, and I swear to God I’m not lying, the only man I’ve ever met that joked around about wanting to rape a woman was Vietnamese. This was back in 12th grade. He was this super horney, but nerdy and sexually frustrated Vietnamese guy and was just nuts about white chics and wanted one. I was driving him home one day and he was telling me about some girls he saw that were looking sexy and he was, “sometimes I just want to rape them.” I told him that’s going way too far. And he got embarrassed and shut up. I’ve lived both in middle class suburbs and not so nice places and that’s the only time in my entire life I’ve heard a man of any race speak of wanting to rape someone. I have a lot of family that is quite ghetto and I’ve never heard any of them say such things either.

          So seriously, I think before you guys draw conclusions about the totality of black culture based off one anecdote, you need to at least ask yourselves if such sentiment is widespread or just an isolated incident. I don’t deny that there’s more black rapists per capita than white, of course that’s true, but that doesn’t amount to rape being a natural part of black culture either. It just means we have a larger percentage of criminals.

          Even oh so peaceful and intelligent Asians engage in such behavior: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9h4mk_40-south-korea-high-school-students_news

          There was a gang raping incident last year in Contra Costa country that involved mostly Hispanics.

          There was a gang rape in 2007 near San Jose at a De Anza college party of a white girl by guys from the baseball team. I can’t find any info about the race of the suspects, but I get the sense they are probably white.

          Saying it’s not a part of white culture to rape is no consolation to the many white women who get raped by white men.

        2. “Saying it’s not a part of white culture to rape is no consolation to the many white women who get raped by white men”

          Especially if they get raped in the butt.

    3. This is what I followed this up with right after.

      “Maybe that whole thing was a stupid rant. I’m sure everyone has their bad experiences and there’s no point dwelling on them. I’ve just never heard of anything like “group-promoted rape” before.”

      I don’t hate blacks. That wasn’t my conclusion. There have been, in fact, several incidents like this in my life and I still don’t hate blacks. I just get tired of it and can’t help but notice that the similarities between the people who repeatedly do these things. This is just inductive reasoning.

      Mostly I acknowledge we’re different and that I see no reason to objectively criticize their culture. I don’t give whites a free ride for some of the stupid aspects of our culture (huge cars, huge houses, love of stuff, obsession with food, etc) so why should I give blacks a free ride?

  4. Black Africans in America rape more because of racism and discrimination, right?

    Have you read much about the people who had be in the Dome during Katrina? I guess all the White men had to form a circle with the White women inside, to protect against rapes. The women had to be accompanied to the bathroom as well.

    1. The Left, the anti-racists and the Blacks have no explanations or answers to the longstanding high rape rates of US Blacks. They are just speechless. I could understand deprivation or poverty causing some crime, but rape? Fuck it, man, no way. No one rapes because they’re poor or discriminated against. Get real.

      The Left, the anti-racists and the Blacks say that the very high Black rape rate is due to poverty and racism? WTF man. Give it up. That’s such a lame argument, I don’t even want to consider it.

      1. Quote :”The Left, the anti-racists and the Blacks have no explanations or answers to the longstanding high rape rates of US Blacks. They are just speechless. I could understand deprivation or poverty causing some crime, but rape? Fuck it, man, no way. No one rapes because they’re poor or discriminated against. Get real.”

        Robert , their is no excuse for rape even in time of war,but those underclass blacks are not as stupid as you think , despite the less overt racism of whites and the better treatment of blacks in the past 30 yrs or so , they the blacks know that whites really don’t like them, their behavior could be a reaction to that .

    2. I can’t believe this ignorance still persists several years after the fact. I thought everyone knew that all those Superdome mayhem stories were debunked:

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/sep/06/hurricanekatrina.usa3

      All these claims of rapes were completely made up out of thin air. It seems that whites will believe just about anything you say about black people. If someone reported that black people have tails, a bunch of whites would probably believe it.

    3. I can’t believe this ignorance still persists several years after the fact. I thought everyone knew that all those Superdome mayhem stories were debunked:

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/sep/06/hurricanekatrina.usa3

      Nor was there any significant increase in crime in Texas after the evacuees moved in. Another lie that whites seem to want to believe:

      http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6868718.html

      All these claims of rapes were completely made up out of thin air. It seems that whites will believe just about anything you say about black people. If someone reported that black people have tails, a bunch of whites would probably believe it.

  5. In a strictly political regard, there is no utility in
    attempting to meld Liberalism with what Bob calls Racial Reality.

    Socialism yes. Not Liberalism.

    1. Well can you explain that a bit further. How do you define liberalism and what is your understanding of socialism? Why would one be incompatible with what robert calls race realism? It is my understanding that part of liberalism is freedom of thought and part of freedom of thought involves allowing for people to have their own opinions on race.

  6. I think erranter probably is wary in general around Blacks. Whether he’s uncomfortable, nervous, unsure of himself, or conflicted around them is another story. A dirty little secret is that a lot of White liberals are wary of Blacks or even out and out frightened of them. A lot of them spend their whole lives more or less avoiding non-superficial relationships with Blacks. And quite a few are probably sort of nervous or uncertain of how to act around Blacks due to conflicting feelings.

    That’s simply reality for a lot of White liberals. Once we figure out a certain Black is ok though, most of us are ok with them, or we ought to be anyway.

    Liberals in general don’t do racial hate or even dislike. It’s just not part of the liberal project. We expend a fair amount of energy trying to maneuver away from racism, racial hate, etc. It simply doesn’t feel good to us. I think that liberals who are truly racist and hateful towards Blacks might be a little rare, though I met a few Back East Jews from Detroit and New York who might qualify as they always voted Democrat but deeply detested Blacks.

    1. I was walking around Harlem one night (pretty dumb, I know) with a friend of mine, trying to find a place to buy some beer. Finally, we found a liquor store and my friend went in (one only at a time, said the smart Indian owner) leaving me to talk to the black bum out front. The guy kept going on and on, gimme some money, some beer, just asking for anything in the world, but I could only afford to stay at a hostel in Harlem at the time, so I wasn’t going to, and he was damn annoying. The guy produced and lit a cigarette and looked at me in the eyes a long time and I got pretty uncomfortable, and finally he said, “I know what you’re thinking. You’re thinking ‘why won’t this crazy niggah just leave me the hell alone?'”

  7. Blacks and Hispanics commit rape at about 6 times the rate of White men.

    Sorry to interrupt the tax cut discussion with a special pleading, but do you have a cite for the Hispanic rape rate? I’m in a discussion on another site, and can’t find a Hispanic rate because they all include Hispanics with whites.

    Thanks for any help.

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