The Pakistan-Peruvian Axis, Part 2

I was listening to some music on the road today. For a long time, I thought I was listening to music from India. Normally, I hate that stuff, but this particular Indian music I could listen to. I got closer to town and now it sounded like Arab music. When I got into town, I started listening to the lyrics and I thought I heard Spanish words over and over. But it didn’t make sense. Spanish words with Arab or Indian music? Then now and then they would all say, “Ole!” like they were at a bullfight. Huh? Then the announcer came on. I was intrigued.

It was Miguel Agujetas, and the music was Flamenco music from Spain. I’ve never heard this music before. It’s the music of the Andalucian Gypsies, with roots in Gypsy, Moorish (North African), Byzantine (Middle Eastern Greek) and Sephardic (Mediterranean Jews) music. As you can see, there is a general Mediterranean and Middle Eastern or Arab flavor to this music. But the roots of Gypsy music are in music from India, so Indian culture has flowed into the Mediterranean region too through the Gypsies.

This is what I meant by the Pakistan-Peruvian Axis of Arabized peoples. The Andalucian Spaniards are an Arabized people. To the extent that Flamenco music is popular in Latin America (they play it in Southern Brazil and Argentina), these parts of Latin America are also Arabized. Keep in mind that this is the White part of Latin America, but with a heavy White Med flavor full of Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians and even Arabs. The flamenco music is from the Iberian element.

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6 thoughts on “The Pakistan-Peruvian Axis, Part 2”

  1. Hey Robert, do you know why Arabs and Mediterranean Caucasoids in general seem to have abnormally large, bulging eyes? On the other hand, northern Europeans seem to have deep-set, smaller eyes.

      1. It’s because of the eyes that I couldn’t believe that Kurds, Jews, etc. were near the Mongoloid border. Central Asians on the other hand fit perfectly.

        1. Well, with Kurds, Iranians, etc. The eyes are “big” like in the Mediterranean, but also “semi-Asiatic,” hence the kind of almond shape they have. I believe the old anthropological term was “Oriental- Mediterraneans.” Makes them kind of stick out. In fact, that’s how an Iranian can tell another Iranian from an Arab. They eyes are a dead give-away.

  2. “It’s the music of the Andalucian Gypsies”

    It’s the music of a distinct group of Spaniards called Andalusians. Gypsies became famous practitioners lateron, but the style originated with spaniards and the best pure flamenco comes from spaniards.

    “with roots in Gypsy, Moorish (North African), Byzantine (Middle Eastern Greek) and Sephardic (Mediterranean Jews) music.”

    I really don’t believe this. As I said before, the gypsy contributon is merely as players, but the style did not come from them. The idea that moorish means north african is wrong too. People who converted to islam in iberia were called moors, but ethnically they were still native Iberians and this is their culture. Most muslims in Medieval Iberia were indegenous people who converted to islam for various different reasons. I find it hard to believe that the jew were involved in it becuase it did not appear until the 1800s and the jews were expelled from spain much earlier. Some of the previously existing styles may have rubbed off on the jews before they were expelled, but that does not mean that they originated the style. I do notice however that you neglect to mention the hypothesis that flamenco singing (the real heart of flamenco…NOT THE GUITAR!!!) comes from Visigothic chant.

    ” As you can see, there is a general Mediterranean and Middle Eastern or Arab flavor to this music.”

    No, there is a SPANISH feel to this music.

    “But the roots of Gypsy music are in music from India, so Indian culture has flowed into the Mediterranean region too through the Gypsies”

    100% WRONG. 100% GARBAGE. 100% TRASH.

    The whole idea about being ‘arabized’ is just another extension of this stupid obsession that different groups of liberals/multicultiralists have with medieval spain that is based on clearly biased and untrue “historical” writing. The spaniards created this music as they created so much in the modern period and in the middel ages. Those parts of Latin America are Hispanicized, not arabized. Are they fucking camels? No. Then they’re not arabized. End of story.

    I hate to be so harsh on this post, but I used to be a flamenco buff and I’m starting to get into it again. I really hate seeing people try to give credit for spanish culture to camelfuckers(Arabs) and thiefs(gypsies) when they so clearly didn’t create it.

    !Viva Espana!

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