I’m Ethnocentric and I Don’t Care If Whites Go Extinct

Someone asked me how one could feel pride in being White, but then not care if Whites go extinct. They inferred it was a conundrum.

But it isn’t. This is simply the way that all tribes have been all down through time. Few tribes, other than the Jews, have cared about genetic purity. Tribal membership or nationality was defined by, you know, sane things, like a common language, culture, religion, etc.

You could always marry into the group, as long as you assimilated to their language, culture and religion, in general no matter what your genes looked like. American Indian tribes were like this. They took Whites and Blacks into their tribes, and of course intermarried with other tribes, as they cared not one whit for genetic purity. The White or Black simply became just another Cherokee by marrying into the tribe and adopting their culture, language and religion.

That’s really the only sane way to be ethnocentric, and it’s the way that ethnocentrism has worked for millenia in human tribes.

As far as pride in being White, well I’m happy to be me, and I love my people, but I’m not concerned about our continuing existence or White extinction.

There’s nothing weird about that – I figure most Whites are like this. Careful surveys have shown that ~73% of US Whites have some sort of White pride, it’s just that they don’t say it. But almost none of them care if Whites go extinct. It isn’t going to happen for a long time anyway, so who cares? Anyway, most Whites regard the very question as so absurd  it is laughable.

Actually, you will find this in most groups. I worked for an Indian tribe, and there was one full-blood left out of 800. The remaining ones were continuing to intermarry like crazy with non-tribals and even non-Indians. Obviously, genetic extinction is very important to them, but they never mentioned it once. They simply did not care about genetic extinction.

Nevertheless, the ethnocentrism of this tribe was off the charts. They were as ethnocentric as White nationalists, or worse.

Do Blacks care if Blacks go extinct? What does it mean anyway? WN White extinction means pure Whites will be gone. Well, pure Blacks are already gone in the US, so Blacks are already extinct here. Since Blacks are already extinct in the US in WN sense, why worry about Black extinction?

Do Hispanics care about extinction? Of course not? What sort of line even exists that could go genetically extinct? Hispanics are a genetic Cuisinart turned on high. There’s nothing to go extinct; there’s no pure race to take out.

Few, if any, tribes or nationalities on Earth are concerned about going genetically extinct, even tribes that ought to be. I’m not sure why that is, but I think it’s because most sane humans don’t care about the genetic purity of their race. It’s not healthy human thinking. Most sane humans think of tribal extinction in terms of the loss of language, culture, or religion, things like that. But it’s proving almost impossible to stop even those sorts of tragic losses. Life marches on nonetheless, and the appeal of global culture and an improved life is a strong one.

Most tribes around the world have figured out that you can’t regulate marriage and sex. Some of the more ethnocentric ones try to maintain the tribal language or religion even after intermarriage, but intermarriage has a way of taking those things out. The general attitude among endangered cultures and languages around the world seems, “There’s nothing you can do about it.”

Have you noticed that the only group on Earth yelling about the genetic extinction of their race is the WN’s? That’s because pretty much only WN lunatics care about genes and genetic purity. Most others think it’s a laughably stupid argument, and mass intermarriage is an unstoppable juggernaut anyway.

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50 thoughts on “I’m Ethnocentric and I Don’t Care If Whites Go Extinct”

  1. Interesting analysis, but I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree.

    While I don’t believe in any “pure race” (despite the fact that there are relatively pure races), I would have a serious problem with whites going extinct.

    After all, don’t you want there to be people who look like you in the future? Despite being pro-diversity, people who are pro-miscegenation are the ones who wish to eliminate unique groups and have us all become this brown race. They essentially want us to become one group, which is essentially an admission that racial diversity is a weakness.

    Well, I like being white, and I want there to be white people in the future! I certainly don’t believe in any pure race, but I do believe in relatively pure races that can be identified due to physical appearance. While there is no genetic racial purity, you can tell what race someone is by looking at him.

    When you look at Shaq, you can tell that he’s black, despite the fact that most American blacks have white ancestry. When you look at Jet Li, you can tell that he’s Asian. When you look Miley Cyrus, you can tell that she’s white. And so on.

    The point I am trying to make is that race and physical appearance count for something. Throughout history, humans have been a very tribal and distrusting species. While language, culture, religion, and nationality have been more important than race (which didn’t really come into play until the past 5 centuries) during a time when there wasn’t as much interracial contact, race cannot be discounted.

    Also, if we go extinct physically and genetically, our culture and customs will go down with us. Due to the anti-white PC cultural Marxism, once we go down, nobody will want to uphold our traditions.

    Robert, I agree with most of your positions, but I’m not feeling you here. I don’t want my people to go extinct. Do you? Do you think our ways will live on even after we’re gone?

    1. After all, don’t you want there to be people who look like you in the future?

      Who cares? I’m a selfish dick, concerned with the here and now.

      Also, if we go extinct physically and genetically, our culture and customs will go down with us. Due to the anti-white PC cultural Marxism, once we go down, nobody will want to uphold our traditions.

      Yeah, I’m not so sure about that either. Anyway, I don’t care. I’ll let the future people sort that out. As the British say, “I suppose we will muddle through.”

      I don’t want my people to go extinct. Do you?

      It’s not that I want us to go extinct, it’s that I don’t care! Who cares?

      Do you think our ways will live on even after we’re gone?

      I am not sure what future cultures will look like. I assume they will be adaptive in some way or other. Anyway, I won’t be around, so I don’t really give a damn.

      1. Who cares? I’m a selfish dick, concerned with the here and now.

        Lol! That certainly explains why you don’t care about the future despite being pro-white. While you care about your people as long as you live, you won’t lose any sleep over the fact that your group may not be around in the future. I can understand that.

        Still, as someone who often wonders what will take place in the future, I cannot just be a completely selfish dick who only lives in the here and now.

        Still Robert, if we do go extinct, there won’t be any guys like you or me to comment on such blogs!

        Well, as long as white people don’t fall during my own lifetime, I guess I can live with that.

      2. Robert, in addition to Jews having a fixation on non-intermarriage, I might also add that I have noticed this pattern with Armenians as well. Just an observation. Though, I believe there exists a social rational behind Jews and Armenians holding such views. A similar history of persecution, perhaps? A Near Eastern cultural element?

  2. Damn, Robert, even I don’t want the “white” race to go extinct. As a matter of fact, I don’t want any race to go extinct. They make our world so interesting. I like diversity, which is why I can never live in my native country.

    You say that there are no groups that mind going extinct…I bet the East Asians–with their superiority complex–beg to differ.

    It always troubles me when I read about a certain groups of people going extinct. I never want to see the “black race” go extinct, but similar to you, I have been trying to convince myself that I won’t be around forever and that I shouldn’t care too much about what happens in the future. It hasn’t been easy.

    1. You say that there are no groups that mind going extinct…I bet the East Asians–with their superiority complex–beg to differ.

      You’ve got that right! The Japanese would throw a fit if even fellow Asians such as the Burakumin displaced them. The South Koreans would do the same, as would the Chinese (despite the fact that non-Han minorities are around 10% of China’s population, which makes China a bit different from Japan and South Korea).

      Humans want to pass on their legacy in order to live on through the ages. Every group has that impulse, including whites.

      Therefore, while I can understand Robert’s psychological reasons (live in the here and now) for not caring if his race goes extinct, I cannot share his sentiment.

      When I said I could live with knowing that my people won’t go extinct at least in my lifetime, that’s simply an acknowledgment that I cannot control the future, so I’ll settle with my own lifetime.

      If I had it my way, no group would go extinct. Do we really want to become this single brown race, as many pro-miscegenation liberals (I’ve encountered them) want?

      1. Yeah, but the East Asians never talk about it. Japanese, Korean and Chinese do not go around saying, “We must stop the extinction of our race!”

        Anyway, the Han are anything but pure themselves. The vast Cantonese speakers of the South are formerly Yue who have become Han-ized through mass interbreeding. Same with the “Han” of Taiwan, almost all of whom are mixes between the already mixed Han-ized Yue of the South with the Taiwan aborigines.

        Human races have been going extinct all down through time, that is, transforming into other races and mixes of races. All of the existing races are just mutts made of mass mixing in the past.

        The whole argument is simply absurd.

        Whenever I bring up “White extinction” to sane White people, the whole table breaks out in laughter. The some guy will say, “No really. What if we do go extinct?” Then all the Whites start laughing again and say, “Who cares!”

        The only people on Earth who talk about genetic extinction of their race are the WN’s. Now why is that?

      2. Yeah, but the East Asians never talk about it. Japanese, Korean and Chinese do not go around saying, “We must stop the extinction of our race!”

        Yeah, because they live in homogenous societies and don’t have to worry about mass immigration from non-Asian countries. They don’t exactly have to worry about going extinct anytime soon.

        Whenever I bring up “White extinction” to sane White people, the whole table breaks out in laughter. The some guy will say, “No really. What if we do go extinct?” Then all the Whites start laughing again and say, “Who cares!”

        Most white people are afraid of expressing white pride, so they’re not going to openly say “well, I’m proud of my race and don’t want my people to go extinct!” Some of it is probably nervous, uncomfortable racial laughter common to many whites.

        The only people on Earth who talk about genetic extinction of their race are the WN’s. Now why is that?

        Well, that’s because they’re the only ones who actually talk about it. Many whites and non-whites think it, but don’t say it. I remember reading an article by the late Dr. Kenneth Clark (the psychologist cited in Brown V. Board) expressing fear that the black male is an endangered species.

        I’m aware that he wrote that statement in a context different from WN’s, but the fear of having your group go extinct is not confined to WN’s.

        Even if people don’t take about it, they’re thinking it. Why do the majority of whites oppose illegal immigration? Why do they choose to live in mostly white neighborhoods? Why are the Japanese so insistent on preventing mass immigration (despite the presence of a few different groups) even though their birthrates are low?

        I generally agree with your views on race, but I think you’re downplaying the extent to which non-WN’s harbor these views.

      3. Why do the majority of whites oppose illegal immigration? Why do they choose to live in mostly white neighborhoods?

        Well, for a variety of reasons, but for the most part, not to prevent miscegenation!

        Why are the Japanese so insistent on preventing mass immigration (despite the presence of a few different groups) even though their birthrates are low?

        Yes, the Japs are very oriented towards genetic purity, though they are hardly pure themselves. The originated with Koreans coming from Korea 2,300 YBP and then slowly conquering and mass-inbreeding with the Ainu over two millenia. So this wondrous Japanese race has been morphing and worse breeding with outsiders for its whole existence.

        I’ve talked to Whites at length about this. Almost all of them think White extinction is laughably ridiculous. They aren’t worried about it at all. They only Whites who worry about this are White Priders or White nationalists.

        Can you imagine if people in the past had this insane notion whatever micro-races were around were some sort of subspecies that needed to be preserved forever and ever? It’s absurd. We’ve been changing all along.

      4. Well, for a variety of reasons, but for the most part, not to prevent miscegenation!

        Okay, I’ll give you that one. At the same time, much of the motivation is a desire to not be overwhelmed by another racial group. While the motivation is certainly not genetic at its core, the idea that whites are being bred out and displaced by outsiders is a factor.

        Can you imagine if people in the past had this insane notion whatever micro-races were around were some sort of subspecies that needed to be preserved forever and ever? It’s absurd. We’ve been changing all along.

        Again, I don’t think that there are any “pure races.” Different ethnic groups have been screwing one another since the beginning of time. Nobody is truly pure.

        However, there are relatively pure races. While different European ethnic groups are mutts in their own right, when you look at them, you can tell that they’re white. Same with Africans, East Asians, etc. Of course, clinal variation and mixture complicates things, but you know what I mean.

        Therefore, while I don’t have a natural genetic interest to preserve white people, I do want there to be whites in the future.

        I won’t lose sleep if I’m my descendants are not 100% white (Who knows? There’s a chance that I might have some non-white blood! I have no evidence for this, so I’m just going to presume that I’m all white). I just want there to be people who look like me!

      5. No matter how much race mixing takes place, there will always be white-looking people around (as well as black-looking, Asian-looking, and so on). Say a group of pure whites and a group of pure blacks mix. All of the kids will come out with an in-between phenotype.

        Now, when those offspring reproduce with each other, a plurality of their children will look brown like them. However, in some cases, both parents will pass along their white phenotype genes, and their kid will look white. In other cases, both parents will pass along their black genes and the kid will look black. So over time the general population will look mostly brown with white and black minorities.

      6. Well FG, I confess that I’m no biologist, so I’ll take your word for it!

        I guess that we won’t just become a single brown race then.

      7. I guess that we won’t just become a single brown race then.

        We’ve already become a single brown race here in California. Look around you.

        On the bright side, there’s always hair dye and contacts.

    2. Well, all things being equal, it would be nice to have a separate White group for all time and all other kinds of groups.

      But there’s an opportunity cost to doing so, and the risk that in the long term it’s probably not really ethical to maintain a small population which has less potential for evolution and thus the population might be stuck lagging behind due to its lower diversity preventing equivalent selection.

      Ultimately, there’s tradeoffs in every direction. People should make their own reproductive choices (though I dunno if that’s too Libertarian for this here blog!). The important thing is that they are informed, and that they understand the degree to which things are hereditary and don’t hold foolish ideas that our magical “culture” and just trying to “talk about it all” and “understand one another” will ultimately allow us to transmit personality and mental traits (or even physical traits!) to a degree that we can’t.

    3. Yeah but US Blacks are already extinct in a WN sense, since they are not pure Black. Right now they are what? 15% White. Suppose in the future they become 30% White? Will US Blacks then become extinct. The whole argument is just weird.

  3. Robert,
    Presumably you believe in Darwinism and evolution.If ‘racism’ and ‘genetic purity’ never existed right at the very dawn of life 3 billion years ago, when somehow the ‘primordial soup’ transformed into genetic replicators, then you, I, all higher vertebrate life, all the insects, amoeba, bacteria etc, would still be a gooey sludge sitting on a ‘warm, happy little pond’.

  4. Caring about “genetic purity” per genetic purity is interesting in that I don’t think anyone actually does. If you took a Black person and then “reskinned” him through your genetic supertech so that everything that affects phenotype, everything but his junk DNA was switched, I don’t think even White Nats would care.

    Genetic purity is really only relevant to people, I think, insofar as it connects to realizing a specific phenotype. I think White Nats care about maintaining a phenotype as well as all the other stuff and I think genetic purity is only really a proxy for this. I might be wrong and they might be crazier/more superstitious about junk dna than I think though.

    And of course, culture is to some extent an effect of genetics and phenotype, even if you take a soft hereditarian position where culture is only weakly related to heredity, so it’s possible to want to maintain “genetic purity” to maintain culture, rather than being able to think of them as discrete things.

    Extinction is also an interesting phenom, because White Nats don’t really care about the extinction of their actual, present day White race. Is this counterintuitive? Then I’ll explain. What they care, as far as I can tell, about is the realization of some ethnically pure, idealized version of a particular phenotype. This would entail the extinction of much genetic variation within the White group that exists, and thus extinction on a similar basis to extinction through continual inwards gene flow to that group.

    Also, even if they did nothing and there was no inward flow, White people would change over time due to drift and natural selection, which they don’t talk or care about. So even they don’t, technically, care about extinction in the sense of the current genetic population no longer genetically existing, no matter how much they might try to tell you the opposite.

    Generally, I think the problem with White Nats, where they differ from normal people, is that they are too aesthetic (not really that they have bad aesthetics necessarily, because aesthetics are hard to criticize, objectively) and too obsessed with appearance. They are too driven by the ideal of physically beautiful, physically outwardly White people happily living in a successful state, which while beautiful, is ultimately a privileging of how people look over how they actually behave, which is basically seen (rightly?) as a bit cruel and unacceptable in our society outside your own personal love life and reproduction.

    You’re free to believe that beautiful Nordic ladies are more beautiful than Mixed Race ladies but you can’t really impose a process to ensure their continual production on others through force. This is why HBD people and “race realists” who advocate similar ideals to White Nationalists but only care about preserving the behavioral phenotype of White people are a lot more sympathetic than White Nationalist (also the tendency not to be quite as dysfunctional or dumb or overly emotive and unanalytical).

    1. Yes, 73% of US Whites “do not want White culture to go extinct.” According to a recent survey. So there is the soft White Pride that I always assumed existed in most White people. If most Whites are not secret White Priders, why do they always seem to cluster in all-White or heavily-White communities. Come on.

      By one definition of White nationalism popular on the Left, White nationalism is a belief in the superiority of White culture and the feeling that White culture should be the guiding culture of the US. In that case, I’m not only a White Prider like most Whites, but I’m also a White nationalist. And by that same definition, easily a solid majority of US Whites are White nationalists.

      It is this definition of White nationalism that the Cultural Left types *really, really hate*, because it is so deeply rooted in US White society and so impervious to removal. Hence the ferocious anti-White hatred of the Cultural Left multicult anti-racist crazies like in the Multicultural Syllabus that all new college students have to take here in California. That syllabus might as well be called the White People Are Evil Syllabus.

      1. Hence the ferocious anti-White hatred of the Cultural Left multicult anti-racist crazies like in the Multicultural Syllabus that all new college students have to take here in California. That syllabus might as well be called the White People Are Evil Syllabus.

        Lol! These loons certainly aren’t worried about whites going extinct. They’re working towards our extinction! In many ways, in terms of our identity and culture, the anti-racist crazies have already succeeded at wiping us out to a certain extent.

  5. Have you noticed that the only group on Earth yelling about the genetic extinction of their race is the WN’s? That’s because pretty much only WN lunatics care about genes and genetic purity.

    No, it’s because Western countries are the only ones taking in massive numbers of immigrants who don’t share our culture. The West is supposed to be based on the marketplace of ideas, so that stupid things like slavery, state-based religion and monarchy can be replaced by something better.

    Diversity-culturalists claim the hallmark of Western society is oppression, so that every other culture is the better idea. Even though it’s patently obvious that the superior countries are the West and its imitators like Japan.

    1. Well, there are small tribes that are going genetically extinct all over the world, especially in the US, Siberia, Latin America, Australia, even Africa. No one is screaming about it, not even the tribes that are going extinct. I mean, they bemoan the loss of language, culture, etc. but not that people are marrying out into lines. The WN obsession with genetic extinction is pretty anomalous.

      1. No, it doesn’t, and this is exactly the WN point — the principles that allow the marketplace of ideas to function are routinely violated on racial issues. Do away with offensive codes and give the pro-Western viewpoint equal voice with the advocates of diversity, and our culture and country will quickly stop devolving.

  6. Bay Area Guy Wrote:

    “Some of it is probably nervous, uncomfortable racial laughter common to many whites.”

    Ah, yes. The infamous cultural white middle class, passive aggressive laugh. Usually followed with a shit-eating grin. I know it all to well. Anthropologists need to document this.

  7. Legends never die, and white people will always be legends among the numerous people of the earth. Even as devils, the white race will survive in the hearts of the future multitudes of this planet. I personally do not understand why white nationalists can not at least take satisfaction in the idea that people will not forget about white people. I mean, I know they do not what the white race to go extinct biologically, but the truth is that the political mythology around whites pretty much bestows a cultural immortality on the white race. The only way the white race will truly be extinct is if its forgotten.

    1. This is actually a really cool comment. I love it. Whites will live on as legends, and not just in their own minds, even after they are gone. As legends, as either Devils or Heroes or something in between.

      Well of course.

  8. This is a oddball post. How could you be race-centric (ethnocentric is the wrong word), and not care about the continued existence of the white race? I don’t think you are fleshing out the real reasons behind your attitude and are not clear about the thinking yourself. In this sense, that you may actually be “ethnocentric” and not care about the extinction of whites, but probably have not come up with the true reasons for this attitude. And casual comparisons to the histories of indigenous peoples, doesn’t add up.

    I have clear reasons for wanting Koreans and Korean culture to survive, I know how distinct (and superior in its way) Korean culture is. I also know how the culture can’t be separated from the biology, appearance, the “race” that is Korean.

    But it would be hard to explain to a person who is not Korean.

    I also know that other ethnic or racial groups can be superior in their way. But I DON’T know how they are superior. For example, I find Indians of the subcontinent to be at times incredibly smug. I know that they are smug and feel superior, but the LIFE of the Indian that makes them feel that way is something I’ll never really understand.

    Possibly the category of “white” is so imprecise and so at odds with itself, that you can’t feel or the culture of “white” just doesn’t lend itself to self-survival. It doesn’t instill any sense in its members that it must be maintained. If this is the case, I think you are making a mistake in believing that all other cultures “in the same boat” as whites are, so whites shouldn’t be bothered with long-term survival.

    I think there are very deep reasons that the races are presently configured the way they are. Not the least of which is a natural system of check and balances. Not merely at the political level (which is comparatively not significant), but in a total sum-of-all-things kind of way.

    That said, it’s not strange at all that some whites would be completely indifferent to existence of white people. While Asians, Africans, Micronesians, Hindus, etc are not indifferent. It’s not a symmetrical propositional at all.

    1. Hacienda, if you don’t mind me asking, why do you think Koreans are superior when compared to the Japanese and Chinese and when compared to, say, the Europeans?

      1. It’s not really about superiority. It’s probably much more refined than we understand.
        I could give you a stupid list like “The Top Ten Things Koreans Superior At”. Try to make it quantitative. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Eg. Korea had the fastest rate of economic growth in the history of the world from 1952 to 1990. An entire nation going from dirt poor to rich in two generations. Headspinning, really. And being “inside” this phenomenon is a little crazy.

        But there are more important reasons behind the growth and the reasons are really the more important phenomenon than the growth itself. Koreans absorbed Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism before the European colonial age. And it created a powerful adjudicative and comparative culture for evaluating the relative merits of Eastern and Western thinking. And the result is typically right-down-the-middle. A very Korean sense of proportion. Now Korea is about 50% non-religious, 50% religious. And of those 25% are Buddhist and 25% are Christian. Very fair, or at least well balanced.
        This is important, not just for Korea, but for the world.

    2. This is a oddball post. How could you be race-centric (ethnocentric is the wrong word), and not care about the continued existence of the white race?

      Ethnocentric is the right word. I like myself, I like my people. I look in the mirror and I see a handsome Caucasian WHITE man. I like that! I like my culture, I like its accomplishments (forget the bad stuff). I took a Speech class once and they told us that ethnocentrism is normal in all groups. So I think I’m just being normal. But this was after decades of White self-abnegation. I must say, ethnocentrism feels so much better!

      So, sure, I like me, I like my people, but I don’t care what happens to them in the future. Why bother? They’ll probably morph into something else, possibly equally cool or even better! We Whites have been morphing all along, and we’ll just turn into some new thing. You can’t stop evolution.

  9. What’s funny is the white liberals that will laugh at the white race going extinct will have a fucking heart attack at the prospects of the spotted owl going extinct.

    White people innovations: modern medicine, modern agricultural techniques and farming methods, which, when combined, account for billions of lives saved from starvation and infectious disease. White propaganda?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug

    My liberal brother laughed when I told him this, saying “that’s whats destroying the planet, overpopulation.” As if the dirt and the trees are intrinsically more valuable than human life.
    This is the demented fucking thought process all sane white people must fight.

    1. You do make an interesting point with the spotted owl analogy. I think the laughing may be in due to its remote unlikeliness however. When we’re talking about endangered species, there are typically only a few thousand of them left. There are at least a billion whites on the planet, and maybe as much as two billion if you include the “near whites” such as Persians, Turks, some of the “-istan” people of the former Soviet Union, and N. Indians and the whites of Latin America. It’s a joke that draws laughter because nobody would be saying he spotted owl is going extinct if there’s hundreds of millions of them or maybe even a billion of them. Hell the government would probably encourage us to hunt them if there were that many.

      No one is saying that dirt and trees are more valuable than human life, what we environmentally conscious people say is that human life cannot be sustained unless we protect the dirt and trees since these things are the basis of what produces our food and gives us life. I wouldn’t say bees are more valuable than humans, however they are in environmental sense. If all humans vanished tomorrow, life on earth would be unchanged. Things would actually improve as far as pollution and contamination. However if all bees vanished, it would mean all types of plants wouldn’t get pollinated and here would be mass famine. So just because there is life less complex than us doesn’t mean that it’s less important than us. Often it’s the other way around. All those dumb one celled phytoplankton in the ocean contribute are more important to the planet than we humans are. The planet doesn’t need us, we need the planet.

    2. Necessity is the mother of invention. Some other culture would have produced the same shit, maybe better. I am amazed how smug you bigots feel about this issue. Its like the guy who goes around boasting that his brother has a big dick.

      1. I agree that if left in isolation, I think all races would’ve eventually invented much the same stuff. Just on different time lines. For example, the mesoAmericans, the druids and the Arabs could all have calendars that were pretty accurate in figuring out how long a year is. We will all eventually figure out the most efficient technical solution to any given problem if we have enough time. What you need in place however are a number of steps to get there, like a system of writing, mathematics and a curiosity about the mechanics of the natural world. In more primitive society, there wasn’t much curiosity about how things work because religious views were so dominant that the belief is that what is was because some god made it that way. If there was an eclipse, it must be beacause of god, if the tide is high, it’s because of a god, if there’s a earthquake, it’s because of a god.

        Where whites started to take off is when they devised the scientific method. While whites weren’t the first to discover science, they did invent the methodology of scientific discovery and by formalizing the process, it allowed them to them to excel like never before. That’s probably the whites man’s single most important invention.

    3. Well, the scientists have been asked this question. The human races are just races, not subspecies. Anyway, humans gladly breed with other humans, it’s not like they are being killed off. They are just turning from one thing into another thing. With these animals, they’re actually being exterminated. I’m sure if a little race of humans were being exterminated, there would be an outcry too.

  10. I understand where Robert is coming from. I don’t really care about black racial purity myself. I’m not pure black anyway so I guess that has something to do with it. But I don’t care if blacks in Africa remain pure. I don’t care if there are whites, Chinese, Indians, or Arabs living in Africa in sizable numbers. I only care that they treat the native black Africans fairly.

    The world is in a constant state of evolution. EVERYTHING is changing around us. The earth is geographically changing. The climate is gradually changing, the technology is changing, religion is changing, races are changing, nations are changing, languages are changing. Since these things change over thousands of years, they seem relatively static from our point of view, but nothing is. Everything, and I mean everything is in a constant state of evolution. It’s constantly on the move to something new, be it our DNA or our language, or our culture, or our music, philosophies, the planet itself. Just accept it. Change is a normal part of life and all things are fluid. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

    1. Right, North America “changed” when Europeans arrived. Palestine “Changed” in the 20Th century when Jews decided to “repatriate”, and the Jewish population in Europe “changed” from 1935 to 1945.

      It is not some benign phenomenon. These changes are almost always violent because it is natural for the men of a homogeneous racial type to react violently to outsiders. Only through non-stop media propaganda can we come anywhere close to accepting this change.

      What white advocates argue is that if we want more scientific discoveries and technological advancements like: the microchip, nuclear energy, the DNA molecule, the combustion engine, flight, spaceflight, etc. We should try and keep our pale asses around for a while longer.

      1. But the point is, even if you keep the races separate, who is to say whites in the distant future will look like whites today? Humans are constantly changing. Look at the way primitive humans looked, how ape like they were. A million years from now, humans of the future will view us the same way and marvel at much we looked like apes. The people of Europe tens of thousands of years ago didn’t look the way they do now. Genetic drift is constantly changing the features of races. New things will come and some old features will die out. WNs act like whites have reached some sort of plateau and this the way whites will look forever. That’s not true. We’re all changing with each generation. What will be interesting is that the whites that live in various parts of the world will evolve different due to their differences in environment. The reason Aboriginees are dark is because they live in a UV intense part of the world. The whites there will eventually become dark as well, even if they don’t mix. Same for whites that live in other warm climates like S. Africa and the southern U.S., and Latin American whites. The blacks living in N. America and Europe over thousands of years will eventually lighten and look more like the whites. Their skin will stop producing so much melanin because it’s not necessary in that climate and evolution tends to weed out things over time that a population group doesn’t need.

      2. These changes are almost always violent because it is natural for the men of a homogeneous racial type to react violently to outsiders.

        This isn’t really true. If you study history, there has been mass-interbreeding between tribes and nations all down through history. It’s more or less the story of man.

        Only through non-stop media propaganda can we come anywhere close to accepting this change.

        The truth is that outbreeding is probably normal, except that males try to stop their females from doing so. But otherwise, both males and females are to some extent driven to breed outside their line. Or a sizable majority will anyway.

        The only way to promote the utterly unnatural state of affairs in which people only want to breed within the tribe or nation is with constant propaganda and lying about the outgroups and punishments for those who breed out. The reason this is necessary is because it’s *not normal* for everyone in a nation or tribe to only want to inbreed and not want to breed out. Some always want to breed out. It’s normal behavior.

  11. One final thought. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a moderate(non-hateful) white pride. In fact, it may even be good for blacks for most whites to have moderate white pride. Here’s why. The true crazies, i.e. the stromfront/national alliance types often started out feeling ashamed of being white. At a certain point, they started resenting the fact that other races are allowed to be proud of themselves but whites cannot. Then they swung the other direction, but to an extreme and developed a bitter, hateful form of white pride. If they’d just had the more moderate, non-hateful white pride, they’ve might have been somewhat inoculated against the more extreme forms. I’m guessing this because most moderate white priders Iv’e talked to seem to go out of their way to distance themselves from the neo-nazi type of white priders. I feel like having a bunch of white youth, completely ashamed of being white are ripe for the pickings and neo-nazi types will easily be able to fill their heads up with garbage and they will feel “liberated” from shame of whiteness, but not realizing that they’ve just made a pact with the devil.

    And I’ll be honest with you here, when I meet one of these super PC whites that is obviously shameful and apologetic about being white, I don’t respect them. Because I don’t have respect for anyone that trashes whatever they are. If I were white, I’d be proud of what I am, just as I expect any black to be. I don’t respect blacks that are ashamed of being black either. I might think you are a nice guy, but I will think something is seriously wrong with you and that you have some unresolved issues to work out.

    So there you go. Whites, you can feel proud of being white. Nothing wrong with it. Just don’t act like white privilege doesn’t exist. Don’t act like white racism doesn’t exist and I don’t have a problem with you. Leave the hate and Nazism bullshit on the ash heap of history.

    1. Just don’t act like white privilege doesn’t exist. Don’t act like white racism doesn’t exist and I don’t have a problem with you.

      Oh sure, I acknowledge that it exists to a certain extent. There are many headaches that I can avoid on the account of being white (as opposed to being black).

      People won’t regard me as either dangerous, dumb, oversexed, or possessing a poor command of the English language unless I give them good reason to. Cops will never mess with me for no good reason (and being the good, law abiding guy that I am, I’ve never had to deal with the cops!). If a loony white person does something crazy, then he’s regarded as an individual (except in anti-racist circles). If a black guy does something crazy, then he’s black.

      So Tulio, I understand concepts of racism and white privilege. In relative terms, I can avoid certain headaches. At the same time, in absolute terms, being white is not all fun and games as many blacks and anti-racists make it out to be.

      Many of us have trouble being proud because we’re constantly being shamed with guilt trips, double standards on speech and bias attacks, PC cultural Marxism, and self-righteous lectures on racism and white privilege. Many young whites have been made to hate themselves, as anti-racists have used injustices in this society as a stick with which to beat us. You yourself said that many crazy WN’s used to be self-hating.

      Well, if you’re afraid of creating this dangerous dynamic, perhaps anti-racists should end the self-righteous lectures and alienating demands. The Tim Wise approach won’t work.

      People should use a more realistic approach. Acknowledge the existence of racism and black disadvantage (which is what “white privilege” really is. Basically, all it means is avoiding the headaches blacks face), yet at the same time address legitimate concerns among whites (such as mass immigration and demographic change, “hate crime/hate speech” laws, anti-white dogma on college campuses, etc) and then do what it takes to resolve these differences.

      I know that the overwhelming majority of blacks and anti-racists will not do this, because they’ll see it as appeasement and compromise (and of course, they can never compromise with the wicked white man). Still, if they no longer want to preach to the choir, that’s the strategy they’ll have to adopt.

  12. “Who cares? I’m a selfish dick, concerned with the here and now.”

    But of course since you realize the bulk of others even of whites are not as nearly as selfish, it’s a little disingenuous to predict total extinction of…even the Icelandic. lol.

    Actually, hacienda should study Evola’s spiritual racism and apply it to Korean Culture. The Culture creates the Race, but it must do so initially from a non-polyglot. Even many of the crudest WN materialists are guided by a Spiritual Drive to
    sustain, let us call it…Qualitative Hierarchy, which “evolves” from, again, a body of similar genes, then Transcends.

    The QH is comprised of High Art and High Technics. It all ultimately represents a drive to mirror Order…the Absolute, i.e. God, i.e. Brahaman, i.e. the Sanatana Dharma. Yes, even Jared Taylor has part of that spiritual thrust in him, whether he is conscious of it or not.

  13. care if whites are extinct is not ethnocentrism or even racism.
    But the true is that don’t care, is racism. Wish the extinction of Whites and don’t do nothing to avoid it or even help the extinction, that is the biggest racism that can exhist.
    Work for the end of some race is really the worst racism. Extinction is the end forever.

    Don’t they say Hitler was really bad specially because he wanted to extinct Jews?
    So, who are the worst people nowadays? The ones who want or don’t care about the extinction of Europeans or the ones who want to preserve Europeans?

  14. “I Don’t Care If Whites Go Extinct
    Someone asked me how one could feel pride in being White, but then not care if Whites go extinct. They inferred it was a conundrum.”

    You say that because you got a lot of multiracial brainwash propaganda.

    You think it is cool, great to don’t care about the extinction of Whites because the mass media think that and say it is racism to care about preservation of races or even think and have pride of being white.

    Just think the following.
    You and majority feel cool, great, you feel you are a good person because you don’t care if whites, a part of nature is extinct.
    But when we talk about animals we never see, such as spider monkey, pandas, white or black bear being extinct, so we all say “oh I want they are not extinct, I hope scientists can preserve them, they need to preserve nature, that’s good, that’s a good person, that’s making the good, even a snail with different colours has to be preserved”.

    That’s just because of propaganda.
    Whites are animals with a lot of DNA, much more complex than snails, pandas and monkeys and other small animals we never see, but those we want to preserve, even different types of snails we never see in life, but White Europeans, no we don’t want to preserve.

    It’s almost like I want to preserve this wood but I don’t want to preserve this tree.

    oh propaganda propaganda, you really can make miracles. Even put Whites wishing their own suicide.

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