The “Western Blacks Act Bad Because They Are Stupid” Nonsense

A commenter disagrees with me when I said that I don’t think there is anything to this “Blacks act bad because they’re dumb” argument.

Nevertheless, I would say that easily 100% of anti-Black racists subscribe to this argument. In race realist and White nationalist circles, it’s as good as Newton’s Law of Gravity.

Only one problem: it is complete nonsense.

Whatever causes Blacks to engage in pathological behavior to an excessive degree, being dumb can’t possibly have anything to do it, at least not with Blacks in the US and the UK.

Race realists typically bandy about the “Blacks act bad because they’re stupid” thing.

Well, if you’re intelligent, you would *think* before you act. You wouldn’t pull a knife or gun out on someone simply because you lost a basketball game or an argument. Plus, you would be far less likely to engage in impulsive behavior and have a greater ability to delay gratification. What do blacks do when they get their welfare checks? Spend it on a perm or a weave.

Yes, but there are quite a few populations all over the world that have IQ’s in that range where people do not behave that way at all. They are not idiotically impulsive in behavior or spending, they save their money, they are calm and emotionally controlled, crime rates are very low, violent crime is almost nonexistent, family life is stable, pathological behavior is rare, and society generally hums along pretty well.

Costa Rica   89
Laos         89
Samoa        88
Azerbaijan   87
East Timor   87
Indonesia    87
Myanmar      87
Tajikistan   87
Turkmenistan 87
Uzbekistan   87
US Black    86.8
Kuwait       86
UK Black    86
Cuba         85
Yemen        85
Iran         84
Jordan       84
Morocco      84
Saudi Arabia 84
UAE          84
Algeria      83
Bahrain      83
Libya        83
Oman         83
Syria        83
Tunisia      83

Granted, there’s some political violence in a few of those places, but there’s political violence everywhere. I don’t think political violence automatically means you have a nation full of morons, or Germany and Japan would end up two of the most retarded nations on Earth.

This argument about Western Blacks makes no sense at all.

Populations with the exact same IQ’s of US and UK Blacks do not engage in ridiculous impulsive violent and spendthrift behaviors. They are able to delay gratification and plan for the future quite well.

Granted, there’s a case that Blacks have difficulty in planning for the future, delaying gratification, engaging in impulsive criminal, violent or prodigal behaviors, but IQ can’t possibly have anything to do it, since there are many populations with the exact same IQ which don’t behave this way at all. Obviously something is causing it, but lack of brains can’t have anything to it.

It is here that we may enter into the realm of race and personality.

But the argument in the title deserves to be thrown on the trash heap once and for all. I’m tired of it.

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19 thoughts on “The “Western Blacks Act Bad Because They Are Stupid” Nonsense”

    1. I’m so tired of all this biological-determinism talk. We aren’t all bio-mechanical robots whose behavior is determined entirely by DNA. We do have thought, reason, free will, emotion, passion, maybe even a soul if you will.

    1. If most blacks were crazy like in that video, we’d all be extinct by now.

      The behavior your see there is the behavior of gangsters. Most blacks are not gangsters and most blacks want nothing to do with them. But for some reason, the worse behaving blacks are defined as “typical” black people, while the worse in other groups are looked at as exceptions. The attitudes in that video can also just as easily been seen in warring Italian mafia cliques, outlaw bikers in the U.S. or MS-13 gangsters in El Salvador. Hell, the Iraqi civilians that were just shown on video the other day getting dusted off by some cowboy-like white soldiers might view our military as one big gang.

      As a black, I get sick of people defining blacks by what they see in the gangsta subculture, and essentially racializing bad behavior when those same behaviors occur in various cultures.

    2. Of course, the majority of blacks don’t act like that. However, since this post is about the stupid stuff that some of them do, then I thought this clip would be a good illustration.

      Besides, “The Boondocks” is a great show.

  1. This argument about Western Blacks makes no sense at all.

    What is measured by IQ tests is needed for success in the academic domain. The speed at which you reason, your ability to rotate objects in your mind, identify patterns, etc. is not what I am talking about here. The kind of intelligence we are dealing with in this case is a completely different animal. Whatever you want to call it, blacks are sorely lacking in that, as well. Murdering another human being over something as petty as being glared at is simply not intelligent behavior.

  2. That is a striking table. I find a lot a blacks have an ease with reductionism (a form of conceptualizing) and getting to the heart of the matter that goes against stereotype. A lot of it has to do with societal feedback, the comfort levels in the way and on topics blacks express themselves. So blacks tend to be very clever in entertainment fields- Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Jamie Fox, any number of black musicians, and a fair number of athletes.

    Blacks don’t talk geek-speak because they aren’t acculturated in it for one, and it may “sound funny”. Maybe they just aren’t “good” at it. If so probably IQ has something to do with it.

    I do believe IQ matters and has a genetic basis. But while important not critical. And the white racists are idiots for using it as a measure of superiority. After all, if blacks started a SERIOUS eugenics program, they could surpass whites and NE Asians in IQ within one or two generations. Thank God they have more sense than to try that. Then where would leave the over-proud-of-cold-climate Eurasians be. With nothing. And white people shouldn’t get too up on the creativity kick either, because if Asians really started to take that area SERIOUSLY, they’d would probably be INSANELY creative. But thank God again, that Asians have more sense than that. (Why do whites insist on mystifying creativity? That too is tired and lame.)

    Black crime is mostly limited to blacks. Yes, I know the stats. 1/4 black male are jailed in their life, etc.
    But to me, it’s a wonder that 90% of black men aren’t in jail given the sh*t they go through. Or at least used to go through.

    Most black crime can be avoided by taking the most simple of measures- don’t live in the ghetto and don’t do business in the ghetto. It’s not really that hard. I’ve been a “victim” of black-bullying, but now I laugh it off as blacks just “getting down”.
    Probably some blacks still have deep hatred and anger issues with whites, that Asians don’t get to feel. But, whose fault is that?

    1. “Hacienda, you haven’t been kicked to death yet. When that happens you won’t be laughing it off anymore.”

      That’s true. I’m not crazy. But my point is that there are reasons for black criminality. And I think Robert’s point is that you want to identify what these reasons are, if you want to find a solution for it, or at least get the right mental attitude toward it.
      The “blacks are just blacks” idea just doesn’t cut ice. I personally like the idea of karmic payback, but recognize I mostly do this to get under the skin of white people. Still karma (only simply vengeance) does have a part.

  3. I personally like the idea of karmic payback, but recognize I mostly do this to get under the skin of white people. Still karma (only simply vengeance) does have a part.

    So you’re saying that blacks and other non-whites do want revenge? Since I don’t believe in any mystical karma, that’s how I’m going to interpret that statement.

    Granted, they have every right to hate me. However, I’m not going to sit around and wait for “karma” to even the score. If a black person puts his hands on me, I’m not going to just sit there and take it. Indeed, “karma” may mandate that I deserve to be beaten up or killed, but I’m not going down without a fight!

  4. Hacienda, I’m not saying that you personally are a raging militant out to get whites. You just have some interesting statements. That’s all.

    1. I’m not out to “get” anyone. I’m saying that revenge is a motivation in play in current race relations (but not even the main one), and it goes in all directions.
      What is interesting is that people’s moral judgements do support and undermine governments. A people’s self-image is foundational. So getting these things straight is probably critical.
      Some Russians still have it in for mongols since the days of Genghis Khan and their time under Mongol rule still conditions their relations with all mongol countries. What’s the expiration date for these things? There probably is none.

  5. Some Russians still have it in for mongols since the days of Genghis Khan and their time under Mongol rule still conditions their relations with all mongol countries. What’s the expiration date for these things? There probably is none.

    Indeed. The Muslims are still pissed off because of the crusades. I suppose the Spaniards should also be pissed off at North Africans for the Moorish occupation.

    It’s definitely a vicious cycle. How one ends such a vicious cycle, I don’t know.

    1. You guys are a bit paranoid. The average Russian probably doesn’t even know about what the Mongol’s did to Russia, nor does the average Spanish person know about his Moorish history. Even if they do know, it’s not something that crosses their mind as often as you guys are suggesting. There simply more pressing things to worry about in our world.

      Hell, I’m Ghanaian and I don’t even blame colonialism for why my native country is so underdeveloped.

      I believe in Karma, too.

    2. Even if they do know, it’s not something that crosses their mind as often as you guys are suggesting. There simply more pressing things to worry about in our world.

      I wish I could truly believe that. Perhaps my belief that most non-whites are enraged and bitterly angry has to do with the attention professional radicals garner (some of it comes from my personal experience as well). However, I do agree that there are other important things to worry about.

      Hell, I’m Ghanaian and I don’t even blame colonialism for why my native country is so underdeveloped.

      Might you be George Ayittey? You sure sound an awful lot like him!

    3. I’m must have hung around the wrong Muslims. I had never heard a single one of them mention the Crusades, even though they tend to talk about the acts of the west against their religion.

      “Might you be George Ayittey? You sure sound an awful lot like him!”

      I found out about this man about two months ago, and I agree with his view points, although I haven’t read any of his research.

  6. I’m must have hung around the wrong Muslims. I had never heard a single one of them mention the Crusades, even though they tend to talk about the acts of the west against their religion.

    Well, I guess it depends. Muslims in the Middle East and elsewhere who feel aggrieved over neo-con wars and the state of Israel might view such acts of aggression as a continuation of the crusades. Heck, Bush himself said (in other words) that we’re at war with Islam.

    I do believe that if we would simply leave the Muslims alone and stop kissing so much Israeli ass, the “Muslim world” (I find that term interesting, considering the “Muslim world” isn’t monolithic) wouldn’t be so angry with us.

  7. On the other hand, all the stuff in your post has to be reconciled with the fact that, within countries, prisoners in developed countries do largely do tend to have low IQs relative to the average and that when you match for IQ, criminality differences in groups reduce.

    http://racehist.blogspot.com/2009/11/what-explains-racial-differences-in.html

    “This large black-white difference was reduced by almost three-quarters when IQ was taken into account.”

    It’s definitely more complex than that though. I think it’s more the case that low IQ tends to place these guys in positions where they are unemployable and that our political system rewards good behaviour through incentives that are not intelligible or accessible to low IQ persons. If we had a system where we had incentives for being violent that only high IQ people could figure out, we might well see that it was the case that high IQ people commit more crime (or maybe not, maybe this isn’t even possible, though I suspect it is). I think our (good!) tendency to value autonomy may play into this to some extent.

    I think the low IQ = violent tends to make assumptions about people being naturally inclined to violence as a way of getting what they want and only being restrained by being smart enough to figure out win-win situations and good deals, but I don’t think all societies necessarily work quite like ours (though lots of things are basically universal), particularly primitive forager societies which may go out of their way to make doing the “right thing” simple and the “evil thing” difficult (in terms of IQ).

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