Some Commenters Just Don’t Get It

Some commenters are saying that the rightwing is not being racist or using racial rhetoric against Obama, or that anyway, even if they are, the Left does it anyway.

One commenter noted that I have used the phrase “feral Blacks” before, and that’s racist.

Well, I used that phrase to refer to a certain type of thuggish ghetto-type Blacks. Blacks themselves make similar comments all the time. If I implied that all Blacks, or Blacks in general, were feral, well, that would be racist.

But what the rightwingers are doing is saying the equivalent of “feral Blacks” and then tying that in with Obama and his supporters, implying that Obama and his supporters are some sort of gangsta thugs. It’s a lie, and that’s racism.

The difference is that they are using this racially charged language to attack Obama! Why? Because he’s Black? See? And that’s racist.

They aren’t just criticizing Blacks. That’s one thing. They are attacking Obama by playing into White racism, and that’s messed up. And yeah, that’s racist. See, when Clinton was in, we didn’t see all this racially charged language on the Right. Now that Obama is in, we see it, though Obama is just like Clinton really. Well, that’s the definition of racism.

Let’s look at the language bit by bit:

Rush Limbaugh: “We need segregated buses… In Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, right on, right on, right on….”

Wow! Rush needs to start writing for American Renaissance! Segregated buses? Yeah, that’s racism all right.

Fox News’ Glenn Beck went a step further to declare that President Obama “has a deep seated hatred for white people, or the white culture…”

Obama does not hate Whites or White culture. There are Blacks who do, but this law professor – millionaire is not one of them. This is straight out of American Renaissance. The White nationalists are always screaming, “The Blacks are racists who hate us all!” Funny coming from them, since they are racists. Are they opposed to racism, or only when Black people do it? Obama hates White culture. He does? Like Hell he does. That’s racism.

Bill O’Reilly told his viewers that “the left sees white men as a problem” and sees putting women and minorities in power as the solution.

This is a lie when talking about Obama. The Left wingers who talk like that are PC Leftists. Obama is just a liberal Democrat. Liberal Democrats don’t go around talking like Sociology profs who say Whites are the enemy. O’Reilly is saying that Obama is Tim Wise. He’s not. And that’s racism.

Rightwing blogs still abound with charges that a campaign reference to his own grandmother as a “typical white person” reflected anti-white racism on Obama’s part.

It wasn’t racism. I say the same thing about White people all the time. Once again, Obama is not an anti-White racist. He’s more an Oreo who spent his whole life sucking up to the White man.

Accusing Obama himself of being a racist who is deliberately advancing policies that are meant to help people of color at the expense of white people, and foreigners at the expense of Americans is their biggest line of them all.

But it’s not true. There are Black racists, but Obama is not one of them. That’s racism.

Thus, when Jimmy Carter spoke the obvious truth that some of the hostility directed at the Obama presidency is a reflection of racism, the Right went nuts and demanded that Obama disavow these comments.

Denial of racism is one of the techniques that racists use to legitimate their racist bullshit. Denial one’s racism is racism.

Sotomayor’s “wise Latina” remarks were taken out of context to imply that she was some kind of ethnic supremacist, and Tancredo and Limbaugh called her a racist.

Sure, there are Hispanic racists, but she is not one of them. Calling Sotomayer an Hispanic racist is racism.

Ed Whelan, president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, slammed another potential Obama judicial nominee, Deval Patrick, the African American governor of Massachusetts, as “a racialist extremist and judicial supremacist.”

Deval Patrick is some kind of dashiki-wearing Black nationalist? Give it up, man.

Glenn Beck, for example, has insisted that every single policy initiative that the Obama administration is trying to advance in Congress is grounded in the president’s supposed obsession with getting white Americans to pay reparations for slavery, or as Beck put it, “settling old racial scores.”

This is not true. Obama is opposed to reparations. Accusing Obama of pushing reparations is racism. Really, the whole reparations debate is shot through and through with White racism. There’s a non-racist way to oppose reparations, but they ain’t doing it.

When economist Robert Reich testified that stimulus funds should benefit not only white construction workers but also other groups of workers, some right-wing pundits like Glenn Beck and Michelle Malkin wrongly suggested that the Obama administration was plotting to keep stimulus funds away from white construction workers altogether and have them sent instead to “[Rep. Charlie] Rangel’s pet constituents.”

See, that’s racism. They aren’t going to take money away from White construction workers and give it to inner city Black welfare layabouts. The implication was that all ethnic groups of workers should benefit from stimulus funds. Saying that Obama wants to fire White construction workers and take their paychecks and give them to Black ghetto leeches is racism.

At the recent How to Take Back America conference session on voter fraud and ACORN, Republican activist Kris Kobach, who is running to be Secretary of State in Kansas, asserted that in America nowadays no one is disenfranchised because of the color of their skin; it is now voters like those in the room who are disenfranchised when their votes are canceled out by the supposed voter fraud carried out by ACORN and its allies.

Yeah right! “Voter fraud” perpetrated by ACORN (ACORN Blacks that is) is disenfranchising Whites! First of all, there is no ACORN “voter fraud.” Many people have taken this apart long ago. ACORN paid people, often inner city Blacks, to register new voters. A lot of the registerers were not exactly model citizens. So they made up fake registrations to pad their numbers and collect more money from ACORN.

None of these Mickey Mouses or Donald Ducks are going to be registered to vote, and John Wayne is not going to show up at the voting booth on voting day. All these fake regs are going to be disqualified; none will result in fake new voters. What happened here was ACORN themselves were being ripped off by their own workers.

Saying that ACORN is engaging in voter fraud by falsely registering fake Blacks, or worse! To disenfranchise Whites the same way that Blacks were disenfranchised by poll taxes and whatnot, that’s racism. Straight up, 100 proof.

On right-wing pundit Michele Malkin’s blog, a commenter responding to her Obama is ACORN. ACORN is Obama diatribe, wrote, “Now as President B. Hussein Obama he has credibility as a Marxist, black nationalist and Chicago street hustler/organizer but little else. He could no more disown ACORN then he could Jeremiah Wright or his Typical White Grandmother.”

See, Obama is not a Black nationalist, he is not a Chicago “street hustler” – racist language falsely applied to Obama. Implying that Obama is, among other things, a sleazy Black “street hustler” (What’s that? A pimp?) from the gritty streets of Chicago when he’s not, well, that’s racism.

Investors Business Daily and Fox Nation teamed up to portray health care reform as “affirmative action on steroids” and to suggest that reform is actually a back-door way to implement reparations for slavery:

The racial grievance industry under health care reform could be calling the shots in the emergency room, the operating room, the medical room, even medical school. As Terence Jeffrey, editor at large of Human Events puts it, not only our wealth, but also our health will be redistributed.

See what they are doing? Health care reform is affirmative action in health care. Sick White workers will be tossed out of emergency rooms to make way for worthless inner city Black leeches. Saying that Obama will throw dying Whites out of emergency rooms to die to make way for worthless ghetto Blacks is racism.

At the recent How to Take Back America conference organized by far-right doyenne Phyllis Schlafly and her heir-apparent, right-wing radio host and activist Janet Folger Porter, a panelist attacked health care reform saying it would amount to a reenactment of slavery by our first black president, this time with doctors being enslaved.

But Obama is not re-enacting slavery, this time being a Black slavemaster who is enslaving White workers to supply his welfare Black plantation owners. Equating Obamacare with slavery, except this time it’s Black bums enslaving White workers. That’s racism.

Bishop Harry Jackson, the Religious Right’s favorite African American minister, has denounced health care reform proposals that he claims would divert health care resources from wealthier to poorer Americans as “reverse classism.”

See, this Black guy is playing into anti-Black racism here. He used the phrase “reverse classism” which is a play on reverse racism. Since Whites are wealthier and Blacks are poorer, health care reform is reverse racism, taking money from wealthier White workers and giving it to worthless poorer Black bums. That’s racist language.

Before the election, Bishop Harry Jackson and others suggested that voting for Obama would be voting against God.

Why is it voting against God? Because Black people are evil, the spawn of Satan, devil children. That’s the language of racism, straight out of White Nationalism. Whites have been calling Blacks satanic and evil forever.

But because America did elect Obama, the nation is now living under a curse, declares Janet Porter, and America must repent. Religious Right leaders insist that Obama’s election has put the nation under a “curse” and ask Black Christians to repent for putting “race over God.”

It’s under a curse like a voodoo curse, implying that Obama practices voodoo, a Black religion. He doesn’t. He’s a Christian. That’s racism.

The “birther” movement – the ongoing theory and ludicrous legal campaign alleging that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and therefore not a legitimate president – is all about portraying the president as an African usurper, not one of us.

See? That’s racist. Blacks are not one of us, they are not White people. Black people came from Africa, a foreign continent, you know, like Obama, from Africa. They are not Americans, they are Bantus. This line is straight out of American Renaissance.

Still another theme is the return of “states’ rights” on steroids, such as Texas Gov. Rick Perry earlier this year suggesting that Texas should consider seceding.

But the states rights thing was all about White racism and opposition to integration. For this guy to bring up states rights and secession in the context of a Black President, well, that racism, straight out of 1861.

On MSNBC, commentator Pat Buchanan suggested recently that white Americans are now suffering “exactly what was done to black folks.”

Yeah, right! Blacks are enslaving us, and putting us under some “liberal Jim Crow” regime. Come on! That’s racism.

Republican strategist and commentator Pat Buchanan has complained that presidential candidate John McCain didn’t “drape Jeremiah Wright around the neck of Barack Obama, as Lee Atwater draped Willie Horton around the neck of Michael Dukakis.”

Yeah but see, that Willie Horton thing was a blatantly racist tactic that Bush used to win the election.

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52 thoughts on “Some Commenters Just Don’t Get It”

  1. To Rob:
    One commenter noted that I have used the phrase “feral Blacks” before, and that’s racist.

    No… I said it was inflammatory… there’s a difference… use that term in front of any number of groups of people and I guarantee you will get a vitriolic reaction. I am not accusing you of being a racist but I think you both know you and I know you language and posting about Blacks sets some people off. I am not interested in parcing throw the various Right wingers comments, so I can’t fully compare but I could take quite a few things you have said out of context and paint you as a flagrant racist. That was my point.

  2. Rush Limbaugh: “We need segregated buses… In Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering, right on, right on, right on….”

    I am not really interested in defending Rush Limbaugh but allegedly that was taken out of context.. not that he prefers segregation but that if racial hate crime laws were not used when Whites were attacked that segregation (self imposed..) would be the result.

  3. To Rob:
    that anyway, even if they are, the Left does it anyway.

    Yes I did say that and I believe it.. and I also said two wrongs don’t make a right but that the strategy on both sides is often effective.

  4. There’s a lot here and I can’t reply to all of it, but:
    1) There’s a principle in journalism that “a label is not a description,” and calling various things “racism” or “racist” is the kind of label that doesn’t really advance understanding because of the varieties of modern usage. If you, specifically, have one particular definition in mind of what racism is, it would help to specify what definition you’re using.
    2) Bill O’Reilly’s remarks about white men being the problem are in actuality the political view of what I call the “diversity coalition” of women and NAM’s. Women, blacks and Hispanics have little politically in common except wanting white men’s money through either the free enterprise system (diversity quotas) or expansion of government welfare. This is not the same kind of racism that someone like Farrakhan preaches that individual whites are evildoers, but that there’s a system that favors white and Asian males for a reason other than merit, and that equality requires discrimination.
    3) Sotomayor’s wise Latina remark did consist of saying, essentially, that her demographics were a superior form of legal education to John Roberts’. It amounted to saying something like “Free speech is all well and good; but if doesn’t benefit Hispanics* than protecting it is not as important as helping the less fortunate attain socio-economic equality.” This is essentially how the Constitution is interpreted on college campuses, and is NOT what the First Amendment says or means.

    *Substitute any other “protected group”

  5. Robert, I enjoy the blog and find your views interesting. However, your latest posts on race have mainly criticized whites. Yes, I completely agree that crazy right wing whites are an embarrassment and should be called out.

    Still, I’m not feeling the love! You should write something about the “flash mobs” in Philly and the one white man who was viciously beaten by a black mob.

    This blog is very balanced, which I admire. However, the latest posts have been critical of whites. As a pro-white person, you should write a post that either says something good about whites or something critical about blacks.

    Again, I agree with you about the lunacy of certain views among many whites. Still, plenty of anti-racist blogs are more than happy to bash them.

  6. Addendum: About “feral blacks.”

    The Census Bureau does use a concept called “detached youth” that refers to a person between 16 and 25 who is neither enrolled in school, gainfully employed or providing primary child care. I bet if you survey any prison, you’d find that 90% of the inmates had qualified before their incarceration.

  7. Keep up the good work. Desensitizing us to the word ‘racist’, that is. This word you so carelessly throw around has lost its power to shame and intimidate (* yawn *). Besides, we have talking points now! Reasonable and well educated people on our side – and quite a few on yours, screaming racism every 10 seconds – are making racism respectable again. Thanks!

  8. To Alpha Unit

    Life just isn’t fair. Everybody gets their turn being seen as “the problem.”

    The premise of US law is equal opportunity. I know that has often not been fulfilled but that is the premise and something to strive for. Would you make that statement if the situation reversed again to what it was for several hundred years..?

  9. Obama on WIP: My grandmother’s a “TYPICAL white person”
    Typical? Why would he say that?
    From ‘Dreams of My Father’,
    “I CEASED TO ADVERISE MY MOTHER’S RACE AT THE AGE OF12 OR 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites”

    From ‘Dreams of my Father’, “The emotion between the races could never be pure….. the THE OTHER RACE (WHITE) WOULD ALWAYS REMAIN JUST THAT: MENACING, ALIEN AND APART”

    From Dreams Of My Father;
    “There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs,” he wrote. “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, TO SHOW YOUR LOYALTY TO THE BLACK MASSES, TO STRIKE OUT, and name names”

    I think that you dont really know or study WHO Obama is.

  10. “Black Liberation Theology”
    What do you know about it, and James Cone?

    Sorry, Mr. Lindsay- Obama came from a serious racist “Church” that was undeniably Marxist.

    1. Well, fortunately most people that attend the Tea Parties are not racist, not here in my town, where we Tea Party to stop property taxes. I already know this nation is finished, so I try to concentrate on my home state while I am not online.

      We did have a few Jew haters that said JEWS are the problem, but the Christians didnt tolerate it and threw them out, come to find out, they are far left wing revolutionaries that went to Ron Pauls side of the sphere to bring on a more violent revolt.

      Alinsky taught to ‘polarize and attack’ which is what is being done with these protesters that are mostly from the 40 above crowd.

      Sorry to disappoint, no racists are there. If they are ‘inwardly’ racist, we cant be the thought police.

      It is an attempt to assassinate & silence dissent, whether you all want to admit this or not, I dont know, but thats the truth, and as this nation heads more ‘south’ if you will, calling people ‘racists’ aint gonna get us anywhere. The race card is cooked, it is a Peter and the Wolf.

    2. All of this business about whether or not the n-word was uttered is pointless, in my view. Both sides of this are making way too much of it, if it did happen.

      Suppose it is proven that someone said it. Then what?

  11. BTW:
    Andrew Breitbart raised the stakes by offering a reward of $10,000 to anyone who could prove a Tea Partier shouted the “n-word”. Despite the dozens of video cameras on the scene, no one has yet claimed the prize. Next, the Associated Press attacked Breitbart in a “news” story, saying that he has no proof that the incident didn’t happen. In response, Breitbart has now raised the reward to $100,000.

    Also, this is a Catholic lady who went to Obamas former church:
    Now that I have read a number of the books that presumably Wright’s congregants (including Barack Obama) have also read, I can only conclude that the thing tying these volumes together is not Christianity, nor any real religion, but the political philosophy of Karl Marx.

  12. Good post. Glad you’re seeing this, Robert. That’s why I was saying it’s too simple to reduce white racism down to a reaction toward bad black behavior. What is all this witch doctor voodoo shit all about?

  13. “Yeah but see, that Willie Horton thing was a blatantly racist tactic that Bush used to win the election.”

    Because the murderer Dukakis let out on furlough to kill some guy in Maryland was Black, that made the Ad racist?

    Even if the murderer wasn’t Black, the Ad almost certainly would’ve been made given how bad letting out any kind of murderer to kill again made Dukakis look.

  14. I think one of the things Robert is addressing here is the cynicism of political strategists, who will exploit people’s fears about race by falsely comparing Obama’s policies to “slavery” and “reparations,” for example.

    Some people go to great lengths pretending that this has nothing to do with race.

    1. Exactly. This is exactly what is going on here. I can’t really blame them but still. I would not support liberals doing this kind of crap. Suppose we had a rightwing Black President in the US? I would not support the use of racial rhetoric in fighting this person, no matter how odious they were. It’s just not right. It’s true that liberals don’t play into racist fears to get elected. It’s true. There are no votes in it for us.

      Sure, the Reagan Democrats are a bunch of racist Whites. Everyone knows that. A lot of working class Whites are pretty racist! Ok, now we liberals want their votes. How to get them? Well, we won’t get anywhere playing into their racist fears. How is doing that going to get us one Democratic vote? It can’t and it won’t, which is probably why we don’t do that.

      Please demonstrate some possible scenario where it would benefit us to play into Reagan Democrats’ fears to get Democratic votes? I can’t find one.

      I would certainly oppose any efforts to portray Condi Rice or Colin Powell in a racist fashion, and there are no votes in it for us anyway.

      Suppose we bashed Condi or Colin in a racist way. What’s the benefit? Our liberal base is not all that racist, despite the constant cries of “liberal racism.” So it would probably just piss off our base. Our base would start yelling, “Hey! Knock it off! Condi’s wrong, but don’t attack her because she’s Black.”

      There are definitely votes in it for Republicans to bash Blacks in a racist way and play into White racism, since almost all White racists are voting Republican or Libertarian these days. So that’s why they do it. But you have to admit it’s pretty sleazy.

    2. I’m not into screaming racism all the time, and anyone who follows this blog knows that.

      But sometimes you just need to call a spade a spade you know.

      What’s really disgusting to me is that Michael Steele, a Black man head of the Republican Party, is playing along with all this racist shit just to get the votes of White racists to perpetuate his political philosophy.

      Every race has its traitors, as my late father said once.

    3. Once again, the issue is socialism, not racism. I’ve noticed socialists often use allegations of racism against blacks to push their agenda. But socialists are just using blacks as political pawns. And that’s unfortunate because socialism has been a disaster for blacks. Disparities in education, unemployment, crime and illegitimacy have their roots in leftist programs.

    4. These rightwingers just can’t admit that their heroes are using all this racist language and playing into White racism to get votes. The Right in the US has been doing this for decades now and to admit it is just too painful. So they lie and say it’s not true.

      Why does the Right do it? To get votes! They want the votes of racist Whites, particularly Reagan Democrats who ought to be voting Democratic, so they play into racist fears to get them to vote against their economic interests. They probably also want to divide the working class against each other to minimize their power against the capitalists and the ruling class, but that’s another issue.

    5. They probably also want to divide the working class against each other to minimize their power against the capitalists and the ruling class, but that’s another issue.

      Actually, it’s not another issue. As I’ve been saying all along, socialism is the issue. Which is why you ended your screed with a quote worthy of Karl.

  15. GWB 43, the evil was not a racist. Condileesa? Powell? The Attny Gen? He was Mexican.

    Open Borders Bush loves illegals and Mexicans so much that he would rather have them here than us.

    1. “us”…..

      keep telling yourself others will believe that (I do, but very few in your beloved Alt-Reich do)

        1. ‘Jews invented menopause so White women would have less babies’.

          I thought it was pretty great…….:)
          along the lines of the Trotsky-Stalin theory.

        2. Or my theory that Old Man Kennedy had his sons knocked off so he could create a family legacy. William like?

        3. Roger Stone……….?

          he’s like the anti-Jew he’s a conniving, pathological lying sociopath (Jew stereotypes), yet does it for the Furher, so he’s okay….

          maybe he’s half-Jew…one of Trump’s menschlings

        4. Old Man Kennedy was a Super Jew in his behavior (bootlegging, Hollywood producing, stock manipulation) he just hated Jews because he realized they were steady competition.

        5. I think David Duke secretly wishes the RNC would give Trump Caesar treatment. He’s far more useful as a martyr.

  16. Bob, aren’t you familiar with Commie folkie Phil Ochs’ song “Love Me, I’m A Liberal?”

    You really can’t go switching identities so frequently unless you’re doing chaos magic.

  17. I was directed to this article after searching “Tom Tancredo”.

    He was one that genuinely talked about culture, and wanted to help the Hispanics (and Asians) conform to “Anglo Culture”, he wasn’t just all talk (from what I’ve seen).

    How much of this was a joke?
    Rush isn’t too racist, I think he’s just a tough guy, he’s a dick to everyone (Some Whites included), he’s apparently really good friends with Clarence Thomas, and Thomas oversaw his most recent marriage, as a Justice of the peace.

    Now, at the risk of arguing the joke and hence becoming the “butt of the joke” I will say, yes, Obama birtherism did have some racist elements- not against Blacks, but anti-Muslim/Arab (oddly).

  18. Possibly Obama got a lot of heat cause his pastor for 20 some years is a black extremist. However, it doesn’t mean that Obama is a black extremist or at least, is one now.

    1. It’s odd that the “Nationalists” at Shamren would be upset about a Nationalists (particularly a very aggressive fellow that reminded me of our Nigerian neocon friend)…if it looks like a supemacist and quacks like a supremacist…😑

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