A Picture Tells a Thousand Words

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Charming, charming.

The Congressional Black Caucus is ferociously booed on their way into Congress. The booers are teapartiers, and for some very odd reason, 100% of them are young White people. There’s one Black woman, but she’s just taking pictures. Why, nothing racist about that! They supposedly yelled “Nigger!” at the Black Caucus. I can’t hear it, but there’s a lot of noise. All of the major networks are reporting it.

At around the same time, the tea partiers yelled, “Faggot!” at Barney Frank.

A White Republican lunatic screamed “Baby killer!” at a White Democratic lunatic, Bart Stupak, on the floor of Congress. Why? Because Stupak is going along with some less restrictive anti-abortion language than the crap he originally put in, and he was supporting the bill.

Seriously, this shit is pitiful. White people are going stark raving nuts in this country. I’m embarrassed of my lack of melanin.

It’s times like this that I must reluctantly agree that the declining White population of America is a good thing in a certain way. 99% of these shitheads are White people. The whole opposition to this bill is nothing but the Cavemen and Cavewomen of Eternally Backwards White America fighting one of their last stands.

They lost this one, and this is just the beginning of the end. The days of Reactionary White America are waning. As Whites decline and non-Whites increase, there will be problems, but we will finally get some good socialist programs here in these benighted United States.

I’ve changed my mind on the health care bill. It sucks, but it’s better than nothing. It’s a progressive change. You figure that anything that every Republican and most of the Blue Dogs in Congress is against has got to be a good thing. 100% of the Congresscritters opposing it are doing so for reactionary reasons. Not one is doing so for a progressive reason, that the bill does not go far enough.

So this is the beginning of the Republicans’ Waterloo. They had to kill this. It’s all about ideology. The particulars of the bill are unimportant. In fact! This is nearly a carbon copy of the alternative bill that the Congress Republicans proposed in 1993 during the fight over Clinton Care. Now they’re all lined up against it, over my dead body! What the fuck, Republicans?

But it’s really about what this bill represents. It represents, yes, socialism. It’s a repudiation of neoliberal metaphysics that says that everything of any value in society must come from the market, not from the state. It’s a body blow to neoliberalism and their whole unbridled capitalism, smash the state ideology.

As William Kristol noted in 1993, Clinton Care had to be opposed because it might work, and people would probably like it. And we can’t have people deciding that government programs have good mouth feel. No. Government programs are evil. Government must not be allowed to do anything good. Once people start deciding that government programs are actually fun rides for the average Joe, the Free Market game is up.

Look at how furious the Republicans are! They’re hopping up and down like they’ve got bumblebees up their asses! There’s got to be a reason for that. Screw the specifics, this was all about ideology. And with this defeat, their ideology suffered a devastating blow.

They’re going to run on overturning it in the next election, but I doubt if that will work. But they’re sure to have the entire corporate MSM media behind them all the way. I’d be surprised if one outlet comes out for ObamaCare.

Several state attorney generals are filing suit against the bill, claiming it is unconstitutional. On what basis might this bill be unconstitutional? I can’t see how that’s going to go anywhere.

Worse, there is talk about appealing the bill to the Supreme Assholes of the SCOTUS. Judging from some of their latest rulings, including the corporate money is free speech outrage, possibly the worst ruling since Dred Scott, my heart sinks. These Supremes are just insane enough that they might decide on the usual fraudulent, conjured out of thin air grounds, to overturn the bill. It’s a frightening prospect.

Tea party rallies area about 99% White. White nationalists have gotten completely behind the tea parties in a huge way. They are also ferociously against ObamaCare. That ought to tell you something right there.

But the White nationalists have made it completely clear on their websites. They are saying what few others will dare to say. Jared Taylor and the Occidental Dissent folks are explicit that ObamaCare is a transfer of wealth from Whites to Blacks and Hispanics. And this is why they oppose it.

Well, of course. .

As with so many things in our society, opposition to ObamaCare is so about race.

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94 thoughts on “A Picture Tells a Thousand Words”

  1. “The booers are teapartiers, and for some very odd reason, 100% of them are young White people. There’s one Black woman, but she’s just taking pictures. Why, nothing racist about that!”

    Are you saying that a group of white people are by definition “racist” because basically no black people wanted to join them?

    Maybe it’s the blacks who are racist – why won’t they join the Tea Party?

    As for racial slurs – bs. I didn’t heard anything on any of those videos, I say the accusers are lying. It’s not as if false charges of racial slurs are uncommon.

    1. It’s sooooooooo obvious. This is sooooooooo about race. That picture tells a 1000 words. The crowd of furious ALL-WHITE young people forced the ALL-BLACK Congressional Caucus to walk the gauntlet. I think they did yell racial slurs, but it happened after this video was shot. And one of them spit at a Black Congressman.

      Look at this comments section. A White Nationalist lays out an explicitly racial, and racist reason for Whites to oppose the bill. All of the other people on this thread opposing the bill are WHITE, often saying that the bill is *bad for the Whites.* C’mon man, this issue has race running all through it.

    2. Come on RL – yes, it does have race running all through it. Why are there virtually ZERO minorities among the Tea Parties? Why have virtually NO minorities supported Republicans? Why do most Blacks, Jews, and Latinos vote Democrat?

      Yes – race has a lot to do with it – Jews, Blacks, and Latinos vote for their racial interests.

      Yet you accuse white people of being “racist” when they do so? Come on.

    3. When have Whites NOT looked out for their racial interests in this country? If it’s good enough for them, why isn’t it good enough for anybody else?

    4. Jews don’t really vote for their racial interests. Those interests should be voting Republican.

      Blacks and Hispanics don’t vote to “screw the Whites,” they vote for what’s good for them.

      The White Republican vote is just, “Fuck the non-Whites.” If this was an all-White country, a lot of them would be voting Dem. They’ll share with Whites, but when it comes to non-Whites, it’s fuck em. To me, that’s racist.

      Anyway, I don’t think Whites even vote for their interests. Working class, low income and poor Whites vote for the Republican Party of the plutocrats, the ultrarich, and the corporations. It’s not in the interests of poor, working class, low income and even middle class Whites to do that. They’re voting for their class enemies and screwing over their own economic interests all to “stick it to the niggers and spics.”

      What a bunch of dumbasses.

    5. I think RL is spot on too. Tim Wise has basically been saying the same thing about the Health Care “socialism” debate from day one.

    6. I agree tulio. I do not think that the Congressional Black Caucus would make up something like that. They are good, decent, honorable men and women. They would not make up a crazy lie and say, “They called us niggers and spat at us,” unless it happened. It’s not like them to make up total lies like that.

  2. Here’s something from a blog by an Obama supporter:

    “This bill is almost identical to the plan written by AHIP, the insurance company trade association, in 2009. The original Senate Finance Committee bill was authored by a former Wellpoint vice president. Since Congress released the first of its health care bills on October 30, 2009, health care stocks have risen 28.35%.

    Secondly, the bill does not bring down costs and leaves out nearly every key cost control measure, including: Public Option ($25-$110 billion). Medicare buy-in, Drug re-importation ($19 billion), Medicare drug price negotiation ($300 billion), shorter pathway to generic biologics ($71 billion).

    State Medicaid programs will be flooded with 30 million new subscribers, yet the balance between Federal and state contributions will be unchanged. And the states are already severely stressed, coup de grace.

    Private insurers continue to be exempt from anti-trust laws, and are free to raise rates without fear of competition in many areas of the country.

  3. You are being disingenuous here Mr Lindsay. Why do you think California was ruined? You know damn well the reason why…because of hordes of ignorant, overbreeding, non tax-paying 3rd world gutter-rat mestizos — you’ve stated that outright yourself in many of your past posts.

    Now with the passage of universal healthcare the mestizo hordes will have EVEN MORE MILLIONS OF MESTIZO BABIES (endless numbers of them) at the expense of White taxpayers, eventually leading to the even more rapid dispossession of Whites in the USA as they are swamped by the 3rd world hordes of mestizo locusts.

    California shows the way!

    1. It’s not the same state, but they are not responsible for the budget mess. This is a very wealthy state. If it were a nation, it would be the 12th wealthiest nation on Earth. It’s as wealthy as Belgium, Austria, Sweden and Finland, even with all of these Hispanics. They’re not optimal, especially the illegals, but clearly we can accommodate them.

    2. RL:”They’re not optimal, especially the illegals, but clearly we can accommodate them.”

      Yeah, y’all can accommodate the mestizo hordes for another few decades, but beyond that the fate of Cali is to become yet another Latin American cesspool, a place with even more income disparity, overpopulation, pollution, crime, squalor, etc. And with the water shortages your state is having, I shudder to imagine how much worse they will become with another 50-75-100 million thirsty mestizos in the decades of the future.

      As Cali becomes even more Hispanicized, it will obviously become even more non-democratic and non-socialistic, just like Latin America in general…a Californian White/Jewish/Asian plutocracy living in gated communities will rule over the masses of mestizo dimbulbs who live in your typically degraded Latin American conditions.

    3. I think there is some degree of truth to what Eman is saying. I do think California will become ever closer to Mexico in likeness and distribution of wealth. We will also see some problems here that are common to Mexico that we didn’t used to have here. However I don’t think it will become another Mexico. Mexicans who mover here become more like Americans than Americans become like Mexicans. Now most the problem I’m seeing is having a border that’s wide open and allowing anyone to just walk in here, drop a baby on U.S. soil and be eligible for benefits. Now that is bullshit. But keep in mind, with or without Obamacare, YOU are still paying for it when they go to the county emergency room. So using that as argument is against Obamacare makes no damn sense. I think Mexicans get stereotyped in a similar way that blacks do. People only look at the illegal alien problems and act like all Mexicans do is come up here and start gangs. They forget about how many are middle class, have educations and living normal lives no different than anyone else. The majority of my friends are Hispanic and pretty much all of them are middle class. Some were even well off BEFORE they came to the U.S.

      And let’s not forget why there are so many illegals here. They’re here for the same reason that blacks are here. It’s because whites want slaves to do their dirty work on the cheap. It was Reagan that gave Amnesty to millions of illegals, not some commie liberal.

    4. I agree with some of what Eman says also. I think that the future of California is that of some wealthy version of a Third World country. IOW, a shithole. We are already seeing this in the serious dismantlement of the public sector here. Universities are for all intents and purposes being privatized, like in Latin America. There are public universities down there, but they are woefully and deliberately underfunded. Latin America is a shithole because the light skinned upper classes refuse to pay for the state. In many cases, they don’t even want to pay for an army. I remember when Peru was fighting Sendero, the moneyed classes could not even be bothered to fund the army. They simply did not care and assumed that Sendero would be beaten one way or another.

      One hallmark of Latin America is that the moneyed classes pay little or no taxes. It is like this all across the region and this is what defunds the state. Hospitals and medical care are being defunded, once again on a privatization Latin American model. K-12 schools are being defunded, again, K-12 schools in Latin America really, really suck. The moneyed classes send their kids to private schools and later private universities. They won’t pay for public schools, universities, hospitals, medical care, nothing.

      This increasingly seems to be the attitude of the light-skinned (call them White) moneyed classes in California. But here even working class, low income and poor Whites vote to defund the state and privatize everything. This is because state programs are for “niggers and spics.”

      This state already looks like a Latin American country. You go to the wealthy areas and there is so much money, it’s astounding. Most of the people with money are White, but not all. There is these underclass of Hispanics, mostly illegals, there all day doing all the dirty work. They go home to slummy neighborhoods. It’s really disturbing. You have Whites in their gated communities and then you have these teeming low income barrios, slums and rundown zones and the people behind the gates don’t want one nickel going to the rundown areas.

      It looks like Latin America already! And this is in the most liberal state in the country.

  4. Picking up Robert’s point about this being the Whites Last Stand, I disagree. I think a number of impetuses are about to make white culturalism (not necessarily nationalism) make a comeback:

    -No Child Left Behind is forcing educators to admit there are inherent differences in children, as in research into the genetic component of IQ
    -10% unemployment will motivate an economic nationalism
    -White women have gained employment parity with men and are about to leave the diversity coalition in which they voted with NAMs to discriminate against white men while each claiming oppressed status
    -This bill will provide an “in” to actually enforce laws against employment of illegals
    -Like in 1994, the Republicans are going to gain a lot of seats in congress (although possibly not enough to capture it) on an avowedly pro-white vote; but Obama will be re-elected in 2012

    1. Nah, it will be a loser. 53% of the population opposes this bill, but that’s because they are so fucking stupid that they don’t even understand it! All they know is the 24-7 MSM Brainwash Machine and the tea parties say it’s bad. So, you know, it’s, like, bad, dude.

      But when they explain to the shitheads, what’s really in the bill, a majority of them support it.

      Quite a few of the people opposing this bill oppose because it’s not liberal enough. They’re going to vote Republican next election to recall the bill? No way! What if the Republicans do vote to recall the bill? Then what? Obama is going to veto it.

      White women are not going to start voting ultra-reactionary with White men. Forget it. White women hate that shit, they’ve been hating it for decades. It doesn’t smell any better now, in fact, it seems to get more and more deranged and flipped out every year.

      Consider: this is the same bill that the Republicans proposed in 1993 as an alternative to ClintonCare. They supported it then, they oppose it now. What the Hell? Have they moved that far to the Right? They don’t want the Democrats to get the glory?

      Nobody is talking about race realism in school yet. It’s not happening. And Obama is probably going to get rid of NCLB. It’s madness anyway. It was a timebomb designed to destroy the public schools.

      You see any economic nationalism on the horizon? Hell, you would think in a Depression you could at least pass some social programs like health care. The White body politic is dead set against any government spending on anything, and that’s the only way out of mass unemployment.

      You hear any Whites screaming about immigrants? I don’t. The legals are flooding in as much as ever, the illegals are not being deported and the Whites don’t even fuckin care. The H-1B’s continue to flood in, devastating generations of White US engineers, and Whites could care less. White people are total fucking tools. They get all wigged out about this health care bill. A health care bill! LOL! Idiots!

      How about raising Hell about illegals? How about lowering legal immigration? How about ending H-1B’s? Not one peep. White people are so stupid.

      Worse, there’s a big insane push on for mass amnesty for 12, or 20, or 30 or however many million Mexican illegals that may well just pass. Why? Because White people are for it! The same White Congress shitheads who opposed Health care are for mass amnesty!

      White people are idiots. *White people deserve every single shitty thing that is happening to them in this country.* I have no sympathy for them anymore. Let them crash and burn.

    2. RL:”White people are idiots. *White people deserve every single shitty thing that is happening to them in this country.* I have no sympathy for them anymore. Let them crash and burn.”

      So you are now racist against Whites Mr Lindsay?

      With so many Whites working hard [40+ hours a week] to responsibly support themselves and their families (plus the hordes of non-White immigrants who have invaded the nation), many just don’t have much time to pay attention to politics and the news. As you know, many Whites are by and large individualistic and driven, so many things others take for granted are apt to pass them by in the daily shuffle. But nowadays Whites in the USA are shell-shocked, they didn’t even realize what hit them until very recently with the Obama election. Now it’s all coming in to focus, and increasing numbers of Whites are pissed. Expect increasing amounts of White racial awareness and pro-White views henceforth, just as I predicted about 2-3 years ago. In another few years there may even be the beginnings of pro-White secessionist movements…let us hope for change.

    3. RL:”White people are idiots. *White people deserve every single shitty thing that is happening to them in this country.* I have no sympathy for them anymore. Let them crash and burn.”

      So you are now racist against Whites Mr Lindsay?

      Why should I be? I’m no self-hater.

      Whites won’t save themselves so fuck em. I want to see Whites roused against these illegals, against legal immigration, against H-1B’s, supporting economic nationalism and doing what’s best for the country.

      Instead the Whites just worship their corporate masters, shrug their shoulders about the tsunamis of invaders stealing every other White job, and won’t even try to make this a better country.

      White legislators support amnesty. Whites shrug their shoulders. Oh well, if it’s good for corporate America!

      White legislators support Hindu 1-B job thieves destroying countless good White jobs. Whites say oh well, it’s good for corporate America, right?

      Illegals invade our nation by the millions, destroying White jobs and ruining White communities. Whites change the channel and take another sip of beer. Hey! I hear the illegals are good for the corporations! I’m on board!

      What are White people all excited about? A fucking health care bill! Why, because they’re for it? Of course not. They’re against it!

      White people are idiots. They are running the country into the ground and destroying it just as much as the illegals. If Whites won’t save themselves, they’re not worth saving. They can just fuck off.

    4. Whites won’t save themselves so fuck em. I want to see Whites roused against these illegals, against legal immigration, against H-1B’s, supporting economic nationalism and doing what’s best for the country.

      Instead the Whites just worship their corporate masters, shrug their shoulders about the tsunamis of invaders stealing every other White job, and won’t even try to make this a better country. …

      Well said, very well said Robert!

      As a ‘right-winger’ myself, your analysis is spot-on, especially about Whites worshipping their corporate masters.

  5. To Rob:

    It’s as wealthy as Belgium, Austria, Sweden and Finland, even with all of these Hispanics. They’re not optimal, especially the illegals, but clearly we can accommodate them.

    Sure add a greater than 20% VAT (on top of a sales tax…) and additional $2.50 in gasoline sales tax and substantially increase income tax even down the $30K (like these countries have..) and we would be able to accommodate them.

    The wealthy of Mexico would truly love us then.

  6. To FrankBD:

    -This bill will provide an “in” to actually enforce laws against employment of illegals..

    I doubt any such enforcement will be forthcoming.

  7. “Glowing with the fire of achievement, he advanced both himself and his civilization. But, in this very fire, he was apt to be racially consumed. Absorbed in personal and social matters, racial matters were neglected. Late marriage, fewer children, and celibacy combined to thin the ranks of the successful, diminish the number of superior strains, and thus gradually impoverish the race.

    Meanwhile, as the numbers of the superior diminished, the numbers of the inferior increased. No longer ruthlessly weeded by natural selection, the inferior survived and multiplied.

    Here, then, was what had come to pass: instead of dying off at the base and growing at the top, civilized society was dying at the top and spreading out below. The result of this dual process was, of course, as disastrous as it was inevitable. Drained of its superiors, and saturated with dullards and degenerates, the stock could no longer support its civilization. And, the upper layers of the human foundation having withered away, the civilization either sank to a lower level or collapsed in utter ruin. The stock had regressed, “gone back,” and the civilization went back too.

    Such are the workings of that fatal tendency to biological regression which has blighted past civilizations. Its effects on our own civilization and the peculiar perils which these entail will be discussed- in subsequent chapters. One further point should, however, be here noted. This is the irreparable character of racial impoverishment. Once a stock has been thoroughly drained of its superior strains, it sinks into permanent mediocrity, and can never again either create or support a high civilization. Physically, the stock may survive; unfortunately for human progress, it only too often does survive, to contaminate better breeds of men. But mentally and spiritually it is played out and can never revive—save, perchance, through some age-long process of biological restoration akin to that seen in the slow reforesting of a mountain range stripped to the bare rock.” — from THE REVOLT AGAINST CIVILIZATION by Lothrop Stoddard

    http://users.mo-net.com/mlindste/revtciv1.html

    1. Actually, with humans, with humans, the more advanced stocks typically invade in the less advanced stocks, heavily interbreed with them, and frankly upgrade them. The history of man is more a continuing process of improvement.

      It even appears that US Blacks have been deliberately breeding eugenically for the last 100 years, resulting in dramatic changes to their skulls in that they become more progressive and less archaic and dramatically larger. This was accompanied by what appears to have been a huge IQ increase. Humans are not stupid. Give them a chance, and they will often breed eugenically.

      You know, dysgenic trends were noted in the Roman Empire. It still lasted many 100’s of years and was one of the greatest civilizations known. They are now the Italians, a great race of Whites, hardly a degraded inferior stock at all.

      The human tendency genetically is towards progress. That’s Darwinism 101, man.

    2. RL:”Actually, with humans, with humans, the more advanced stocks typically invade in the less advanced stocks, heavily interbreed with them, and frankly upgrade them.”

      Dude, you missed the entire point of that excerpt!

      Yes, the inferior stocks are ‘upgraded,’ but what happens to the superior stocks? They are of course downgraded, which thus puts eventual downward pressure on the capacity of a civilization to sustain itself…hence we have places like Cali which is showing the first signs of the breakdown of civilization.

      Instead of seeking to ‘equalize’ the races via extensive inter-mixing whereby the lower is slightly raised yet the higher is steeply pulled down, we ought to instead be focused on breeding an ‘Overrace’ which will pre-dominate over all the rest. Instead of continuing to evolve the human race is, in many places, now regressing because the higher is being pulled down.

      “I teach you the Overman. Man is something that is to be surpassed. What have ye done to surpass man?

      All beings hitherto have created something beyond themselves: and ye want to be the ebb of that great tide, and would rather go back to the beast than surpass man?

      What is the ape to man? A laughing-stock, a thing of shame. And just the same shall man be to the Overman: a laughing-stock, a thing of shame.

      Ye have made your way from the worm to man, and much within you is still worm. Once were ye apes, and even yet man is more of an ape than any of the apes.

      Even the wisest among you is only a disharmony and hybrid of plant and phantom. But do I bid you become phantoms or plants?

      Lo, I teach you the Overman!

      The Overman is the meaning of the earth. Let your will say: The Overman shall be the meaning of the earth!” – http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Thus_Spake_Zarathustra/Prologue

  8. “In the struggle for daily bread all those who are weak and sickly or less determined succumb, while the struggle of the males for the female grants the right or opportunity to propagate only to the healthiest. And struggle is always a means for improving a species’ health and power of resistance and, therefore, a cause of its higher development.

    If the process were different, all further and higher development would cease and the opposite would occur. For, since the inferior always predominates numerically over the best, if both had the same possibility of preserving life and propagating, the inferior would multiply so much more rapidly that in the end the best would inevitably be driven into the background, unless a correction of this state of affairs were undertaken. Nature does just this by subjecting the weaker part to such severe living conditions that by them alone the number is limited, and by not permitting the remainder to increase promiscuously, but making a new and ruthless choice according to strength and health.

    No more than Nature desires the mating of weaker with stronger individuals, even less does she desire the blending of a higher with a lower race, since, if she did, her whole work of higher breeding, over perhaps hundreds of thousands of years, night be ruined with one blow.

    Historical experience offers countless proofs of this. It shows with terrifying clarity that in every mingling of Aryan blood with that of lower peoples the result was the end of the cultured people. North America, whose population consists in by far the largest part of Germanic elements who mixed but little with the lower colored peoples, shows a different humanity and culture from Central and South America, where the predominantly Latin immigrants often mixed with the aborigines on a large scale. By this one example, we can clearly and distinctly recognize the effect of racial mixture. The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.

    The result of all racial crossing is therefore in brief always the following:

    * Lowering of the level of the higher race;
    * Physical and intellectual regression and hence the beginning of a slowly but surely progressing sickness
    .

    To bring about such a development is, then, nothing else but to sin against the will of the eternal creator.

    And as a sin this act is rewarded.”

    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch11.html

  9. Nietsche was not a Darwinian. More like a vitalist.

    Bob, the fact Whites chose health care in your panorama owes to economic deterioration since 1993 and the fact they didn’t choose immigration as you portray it, owes to diffidence. That they did not choose opposition to outsourcing indicates abject lack of ethnoclassm solidarity.

    The key to whether Bob is right involves whether Whites are willing to form a “soft racialist” third party resembling European populist parties, a party which is fiercely critical of Wall Street, FIERCLY CRITICAL OF OUTSOURCING, which party calls for constrained-capitalism- to –
    White guided socialism, has a paramilitary unit ready to help enforce widescale deportation of illegals, appeals directly to Euro-American folkways but makes clear it welcomes any minority willing to respect Euro-American dominance, if for no other reason as necessary to national stability, and which party FIERCELY OPPOSES MIDEASTERN WARS AND ALLIANCE WITH ISRAEL.

    This is obviously not the GOP and these key planks are not shared by more than 20% of the tea party activists at present. Any movement toward solidifying the White working-middle core around these key issues will meet with the most insidious attempts to subvert it by white plutocrats, Jewish supremacists, liberal egalitarians and others.

    Outlook not good until after complete collapse.
    Then survivalism takes precedence.

  10. “Jews don’t really vote for their racial interests. ”

    You can’t be serious. They are the biggest political donors, far aside from their numbers.

    Let’s all best honest here – for liberals, being white automatically makes you a racist, unless you are a liberal.

    Anyway, congrats liberals, the overt anti-white hostility is setting everyone up for a repeat of 1994. It’s almost assured the GOP will win the House next election.

    On the other hand – it’s not as if Obama stopped torture renditions, closed Gitmo, or brought a single troop home from Iraq. In fact, he’s widened the war to Pakistan, uses drones to drop bombs on families, spends money bailing out banks, and now passes a health care bill written by lobbyists from Wellpoint, Aetna, and Blue Cross Blue Shield.

    So Democrats = just like Republicans, but like to scream “racist” at any white person who disagrees with them.

    Keep the change.

  11. “Economic Nationalist” – RL, I wish! But with the Democrats, what do you get? NAFTA, and massive immigration at a time when there is no jobs!

    Democrats *talk* about helping the working class and the middle class – but they *never* actually deliver.

    I’ve read my Chomsky and my Nader, you can’t out lefty me on this one. Democrats are the party of Global Capitalism and the party of Wall Street.

    More Democrats voted for the Bankster Bailouts than Republicans.

  12. You have to remember these blacks are mostly descendents of African slaves brought over by whites themselves so are entitled to, and have every right, to be American just as much as a white American. The number of recent African or Caribbean immigrants are actually very small.

    Most of them don’t even know where Africa is.

  13. This has to be a joke.

    The Media is against Obamacare? Um, not the Mainstream Media.

    And why shouldn’t Whites be against something that takes money from Whites and gives it primarily to Non-Whites?

    It’s Whites who are going to PAY for this thing Obama just passed, not the Blacks and Hispanics.

    Also when exactly did the Republicans support giving people the right to be covered by the Government in exchange for a small fee of something like $1,900 a year?

    That’s a Government takeover, man, and private insurance companies are going to go out of business.

    Chaos.
    Chaos.
    Chaos.

    That’s what this bill will bring…

    1. If you would vote for it if it went to almost all White people, but you will vote against it because it’s going to “niggers and spics,” um, that’s just racism, that’s all there is to it. There’s no other way to describe it.

      The Whites I know want government health care so they supported this bill, but mostly they think it didn’t go far enough. The notion that Whites don’t need health care too is ridiculous.

      Unfortunately, the insurance companies are not going out of business anytime soon. But when the day comes when they are taken out, it will be a glorious day indeed! Scum of the earth parasites, nothing good about them. Exterminate them.

  14. I think people are forgetting one of the major pushes for multiculturalism in the first place. Its a hidden one, but it was big among intellectuals. This is probably the bigger reason why jews support multicultural so much.

    On a world where different “tribes” have nukes, you don’t want people to have strong identities. It dosent matter if someone is communist, capatilist, black,white,asian. We all have the ability to destroy the entire world. Because of that, tribes dont matter at all.

    1. Have you seen how furious the Republicans are over this bill. They say it’s socialism, Communism. Anything that has the entire Republican Party and most conservative Democrats hopping furious mad because it’s “socialism or Communism” can’t be all that bad.

      In these sordid times, this is what counts as a progressive victory 🙁

  15. “If you would vote for it if it went to almost all White people, but you will vote against it because it’s going to ‘niggers and spics,’ um, that’s just racism, that’s all there is to it. There’s no other way to describe it.”

    Well, when Blacks and Hispanics do it, it’s called a day that ends in the letter “Y”.

    You think Blacks and Hispanics would support money being taken from Blacks and Hispanics to give to White People?

    And if they wouldn’t do it for my people, why should I do it for their people?

    “But when the day comes when they are taken out, it will be a glorious day indeed! Scum of the earth parasites, nothing good about them. Exterminate them.”

    I spaced out there for a minute. Are we talking about the Jews?

    1. You think Blacks and Hispanics would support money being taken from Blacks and Hispanics to give to White People?

      And if they wouldn’t do it for my people, why should I do it for their people?

      Unless you are in the wealthy white elite(you know, the type of people want want Mexican illegals here to do the jobs they say that YOU won’t do), you won’t be paying any more in taxes than a black or Mexican.

      Look, this isn’t rocket science. 90% of the wealth of this country is owned by 10% of the people. Of that wealthy 10%, probably like 98% of them are white. However, for the bottom 90% of whites, they ain’t paying anymore than most minorities are. So here’s the thing, the taxes largely come from this wealthy white elite that can give a shit about the average white, they send their kids to private schools to avoid putting them in public school where the children of their illegal gardeners and babysitters go. You say, “hey, they’re white, just like me, so I don’t support them paying more because blacks and Mexicans don’t pay as much as these wealthy white people, so I’m going to side with the wealthy class that’s screwing everybody, including most whites, just because I don’t like blacks and Mexicans.” This is what Robert’s talking about when he mentions the economic stupidity of the average conservative white American.

      PS – blacks and Mexicans pay taxes too. I’m in the middle of doing my taxes now. I’m about to write a check for thousands of dollars to the IRS. Yeah, we blacks don’t pay taxes alright. If only it were so I’d have a lot more beer money right now!

    2. I spaced out there for a minute. Are we talking about the Jews?

      The insurance companies. The sooner they are gone, the better.

      You know, my White friends receive SSI, SSDI, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Section 8 housing (!), Food Stamps, the whole nine yards. So I tend to support these programs because my low income White friends use them.

  16. … but we will finally get some good socialist programs here in these benighted United States.

    You will get Cuba. You will get Venezuela. You sure as hell ain’t getting Sweden. The USA is becoming a Third World nation, it will be Mexico, it will be worse than Mexico.

    I really don’t understand that rage that Whites (Robert Lindsay is after all white) have against other Whites and cheer for their own destruction. Now, I’m not racist, I could even be considered Latino by some classifications. But I can see very well that “multicultural” societies usually only work up to a point, when the minorities are not larger than a certain percentage. When they become too large, all politics become spoils politics, you see it here, yes, the Whites are against Obamacare, because Obamacare doesn’t benefit them, but benefits Blacks and Browns. It’s obvious that they are not happy with that, since they are going to pay for someone else. THERE IS NO MONEY TO PAY FOR HEALTH CARE FOR 300 MILLION PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE ILLEGALS THAT OBAMA WANTS TO INCLUDE. In fact, there is no money whatsoever. And Government-run Healthcare is the worst, because BILLIONS are lost in useless bureacracies.

    By the way, “good socialist” is an oxymoron. Socialism sucks. When will people understand that money doesn’t grow on trees, and people only make things according to incentives?

    You know, I think you’ve lived for too long in the USA, you should go live in some Latin American country for a while, perhaps Cuba, Venezuela or maybe Bolivia, maybe you would see how things really work in those countries. And how they will work in the USA in the near future.

  17. “However, for the bottom 90% of whites, they ain’t paying anymore than most minorities are.”

    Even if we throw out the economic elite, Whites get far less in Government services than Blacks and Hispanics do.

    Therefore even if we were paying the same amount in taxes, which I very much doubt given income disparity issues, the Health Care Bill would still be bad for Whites.

    Also there’s the far more important issue that this bill will attract who knows how many extra Hispanics to the United States.

    Obama stopped there from being meaninful enforcement against Illegal Aliens getting the benefits.

    1. “Even if we throw out the economic elite, Whites get far less in Government services than Blacks and Hispanics do.”

      I don’t know about Hispanics, but I’m not sure about that in the case of blacks. The most costly welfare program is social security and medicare. Since blacks have a significantly lower average life span than whites, they collect fewer SS benefits than whites.

  18. To Rob:
    Hell, you would think in a Depression you could at least pass some social programs like health care.

    Did you see what I posted from an Obama supporter..? Any guesses as to why health insurance stocks went up today..?

  19. Sorry, Robert, but you’ve put yourself in a double bind. You claim that if whites don’t look out for themselves, then fuck ’em, they deserve what they get. And then if they do look out for themselves, it is racist, and therefore wrong to do so. It’s quite a pickle.

    And you cannot see the expansion of Medicaid/contraction of Medicare as anything other than than an (old) White –> (young) Non-Asian Minority / underclass/mentally ill white redistribution.

    But you are correct in saying that if the U.S. were more homogeneous, there would be less of an outcry about socialistic policies. Look at the nations of Europe. It’s a free rider problem that overlays an explicit racial divide.

    1. If I may speak for him, I think what Robert objects to is the *way* in which whites look after themselves, in this case by opposing a program that could benefit everyone in order to spite nonwhites. Am I close?

    2. Yes, this health care this is good for Whites. As I see it, anyway.

      They should be getting mad about economic nationalist topics, demanding the illegals be deported, cutting back legal immigration, stopping Hindu 1-B job thieves in IT and other fake “guest workers,” at least getting angry about outsourcing. Are Whites even angry about outsourcing? Not that they can do anything about it, but news to me. How bout getting mad at the corporate crook bankers who blew up the economy?

      Forget it. They’ve voting Republicans, and Republicans love all that stuff.

      What are Whites mad about? “Health care! Someone’s trying to give us some health care! The bastards! How dare they!”

      WTH man.

    3. It’s not just on this, Mort. In the 1970’s in California, it was not uncommon to find that middle and upper middle class White Californians were liberal Democrats. The state was 75% White. Once it got below 70% White, something happened. The Whites turned into Republicans. Like just about all of them. Being a liberal Dem in those White towns was almost dangerous. Your signs would get torn down within hours of going up.

      The Whites all went Republican and the state has gone down the tubes ever since. Everything is defunded – Fish and Game, state parks, roads, bridges, universities, libraries, beaches, K-12 schools, now home health care. White people use all of these state functions, they’re all good for Whites. Further, environmental enforcement has seriously gone down the tubes.

      The Delta has been destroyed and the salmon fishery, a White industry, has been ruined. The state almost never lists an endangered species now, and they used to list new ones all the time.

      The universities are crap. Who goes to universities? White people! The state parks are all closed. Who goes to state parks? Heavily Whites. The libraries are closing? Who uses those? Whites. The K-12 schools have been seriously fucked, even in White areas. Whites use those schools. Fish and Game and environmental stuff is a White thing. It’s Whites who are upset that the Delta is gone, and the salmon fishermen are all White.

      White people did this to themselves, and it’s been going on for decades here. It didn’t just start overnight.

      They’re screwing themselves in a way by nuking the public infrastructure just like the Latin American elites do. Here in California, it’s all to stick to the Blacks and Mexicans. That’s the impetus for these Whites cutting off their noses to save their faces.

    4. Sometimes the dynamics of state-level politics differs from national. The current Alabama state legislature is about 60% Democratic in both houses (a complete reversal of the state’s Presidential vote); while the New York State Senate has been controlled by the Republican party all but 18 months since 1939.

  20. Robert, despite being pro-white like you, I too am sometimes embarrassed by the idiocy emanating from certain segments of white America. They’re going nuts over a freakin’ health care bill?!

    Why weren’t they going nuts when this nation’s borders were opened to the Third World?

    Why weren’t they going nuts when corporate America outsourced their jobs to cheap, Third World countries?

    Why weren’t they protesting Eric Holder’s Hate Crimes Bill and his unwillingness to prosecute the New Black Panthers who intimidated white voters?

    Whites continue to decline in terms of both numbers and influence while non-whites increase in numbers and influence, their jobs are disappearing, and yet rather than raise hell about more important issues, they decide that a Health Care Bill (which will also benefit whites), is worth protesting.

    Whites need to start picking and choosing their battles better. As Robert said, if whites aren’t willing to defend and save themselves, then why should anyone else save us? We have only ourselves to blame, because we allowed white elites to screw the average white person.

    1. Isn’t it something how elites will screw non-elites, regardless of race?

      That’s what’s so great about Marxism. For all its flaws in praxis, it is *such* an excellent tool to analyze capitalism. Marxist theory makes what you said *so* clear.

      From my POV, racial politics doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Class politics? You betcha! Why should I side with moneyed Whites, though they be my racial brethren? Forget it. Those are my class enemies. The Hell with em. They’re not for me, why should I be for them? I’m no fool.

  21. To Rob:

    They should be getting mad about economic nationalist topics, demanding the illegals be deported, cutting back legal immigration, stopping Hindu 1-B job thieves in IT and other fake “guest workers,” at least getting angry about outsourcing. Are Whites even angry about outsourcing?

    Rob all I can say is it appears you haven’t been paying attention.

    To the best of my knowledge, Whites are the only ones with organizations to stop/limit illegal immigration. For the most part legit non-racist organizations that advocate enforcing existing immigration laws have to say they are fine with legal immigration. If not they are routinely lambasted repeatedly as being racist. (some undoubtedly are but that doesn’t mean the goal or reducing illegal immigration isn’t laudable..) Even when they try to recruit and staff their organizations with ethnic minorities (and at least one is run by an ethnic Jewish man..) they are labeled as Nazis.

    The old left (Ralph Abernathy, Cesar Chavez, Barbara Jordan) minorities who used to advocated enforcement against illegal aliens are gone. Replaced by globalists lefties allied sometimes with right leaning capitalist neo-libs to bring in cheap labor. It’s bizarre. The ACLU and US Chamber of Commerce allied to defeat the checking IDs of new hires for legal status.

    Not that they can do anything about it, but news to me.
    Survey after survey (when correctly worded..) shows that the majority of American citizens are not for amnesty and would like existing immigration laws to be enforced. Ever here of Lou Dobbs (who changed his tune when he decided to run for office..) Never do anything about it..? Try to something about but are bypassed, vilified, threatened, etc. Even President Bush labeled the Minutemen as vigilantes. (whatever you may think of them they did successfully recruit Blacks and Latinos onto their staff..) Would you like a few links to some organizations..?

    How bout getting mad at the corporate crook bankers who blew up the economy?

    There are many many people who love to see that happen.. again I can give you links. But too make it happen..? To be blunt Rob the US government is looking like a plutocracy.

    1. Yeah, you’re right, they got roused to stop that bill the last time, but what’s going to happen when they push amnesty again? The illegals keep flooding over the border, they are not going home, there’s next to zero enforcement and deportation, there’s very little enforcement against employers, and there’s not a peep out of Whites.

      And from where I live in California, I only know one White person who routinely decries the illegals, even though here we are surrounded by them. Granted, around here it’s a little dangerous to denounce them, but still…

      I only know one White person who is mad about Hindu 1-B’s or other fake “guest workers.” The Hindu H-1B bill comes up to Congress every year and passes with flying colors. Everyone from both parties stands up and cheers for it, even the most liberal Democrats. And the Republicans can’t love the Hindu 1-B’s enough.

      I only know one White person who decries mass legal immigration either.

      With the Whites around here, all you hear is, “Obama is the Antichrist.” And I’m not even sure why they think that.

      You think we will stop amnesty this time around? This is really scary. Every several years or so, they push for amnesty with all their might, with the whole corporate media in back of them. They fail every time, but then several years later, they come back and do it again. The ruling elite is bulldog determined to push this outrage through.

      And thing is, every several years, there’s that many more Hispanics in the country and that many more Hispanic voters, 85% of whom are traitors on this issue.

      It’s really frightening. It makes you think that sooner or later, at some unknown future point, they are gonna shove it through.

    2. Of course an amnesty will go through. But remember, it’s not the first one. We got a big one under Reagan, and that’s with fewer Hispanic voters than now.

  22. To Rob:
    Forget it. They’ve voting Republicans, and Republicans love all that stuff.

    Wrong.. it appears that you simply haven’t been reading immigration restriction websites. Multiple people who identify as Democrats are against illegal immigration… but I ask you .. what Union or Democratic leader has come out against illegal immigration ..? There are a very few but for most part they come from the Republican side. Yes.. it is well known that some Republicans do not give a rats ass against immigration enforcement… (McCain for example..)

    Overall though it looks like the fix is in. Obama says he will push for immigration reform (amnesty..) before the fall elections. Perhaps you don’t remember but Bush, McCain, and Kennedy tried to push through an amnesty in 2006 but were stopped by a call in campaign organized by Republicans, Independents, and a few Democrats to stop the bill. They were successful. Also in 2006 there were huge Latino marches against a house bill sponsored by Republicans that wanted to increase penalties against illegal immigration. That bill was shot down by Bush and company.

  23. To Rob:
    It’s not just on this, Mort. In the 1970’s in California, it was not uncommon to find that middle and upper middle class White Californians were liberal Democrats.

    For the most part the same people who voted Ronald Reagan into the governor’s office twice.

  24. To Rob:

    How bout getting mad at the corporate crook bankers who blew up the economy?

    Oh duh.. I should have caught this.. well I don’t agree with their style, tactics, and some of their beliefs.. but the Tea Party Gang has protested against the corporate crook bankers who blew up the economy:

    “The movement originated in anti-tax protests and arose largely in response to the 2009 stimulus package[1][2] as well as the 2008 bailouts[3] and later in revelations about bonuses paid to AIG executives”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

    But there are more serious and studied Libertarians, Democrats, and Republicans out there who recognized the problem has been festering for a long time. Do you want links to read or do you to continue with your beliefs?

    1. I only know two White people who complain about those bankers who blew up the economy. Other than that, I never hear anyone talk about it. All I hear Whites say is, “Obaaamaaa is eeeeeeviiiil.”

      The Tea Party movement is being bankrolled by Republican neoliberal plutocrats like Dick Army, Grover Norquist and Newt Gingrich. That’s the money in back of the movement. All those folks were fully behind the bankster crooks who nuked the world economy.

      The Tea Partiers are now supporting the Republican Party. The Republican Party not only created the economic Hiroshima, but they also are currently stalling, to the point of filibuster, efforts on the parts of Democrats to mitigate the damage, support the victims of the crime, and to introduce legislation to make it less likely to happen again. 100% of the Republican Party is stalling these moves, just like health care.

      Their leaders are going around to the bankers associations giving speeches to standing ovations at this very moment.

  25. To Bay Area Guy:
    Why weren’t they going nuts when corporate America outsourced their jobs to cheap, Third World countries?

    That was basically the foundation of the Presidential campaigns of Ross Perot and Patrick Buchanan.

    Ross Perot garnered 19% of 1992 vote, hardly something that should have been ignored .. but the plutocracy drove on:

    “At one point in June, Perot led the polls with 39% (versus 31% for Bush and 25% for Clinton). Just prior to the debates, Perot received 7-9% support in nationwide polls.[24] It is likely that the debates played a significant role in his ultimate receipt of 19% of the popular vote. Although his answers during the debates were often general, many Democrats and Republicans conceded that Perot won at least the first debate. In the debate he remarked: “Keep in mind our Constitution predates the Industrial Revolution. Our founders did not know about electricity, the train, telephones, radio, television, automobiles, airplanes, rockets, nuclear weapons, satellites, or space exploration. There’s a lot they didn’t know about. It would be interesting to see what kind of document they’d draft today. Just keeping it frozen in time won’t hack it.”[25]

    Perot denounced Congress for its inaction in his speech at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on March 18, 1992. Perot said:

    This city has become a town filled with sound bites, shell games, handlers, media stuntmen who posture, create images, talk, shoot off Roman candles, but don’t ever accomplish anything. We need deeds, not words, in this city.[26]

    In the 1992 election, he received 18.9% of the popular vote, approximately 19,741,065 votes (but no electoral college votes), making him the most successful third-party presidential candidate in terms of the popular vote since Theodore Roosevelt in the 1912 election. “

  26. To Rob:

    Californians were liberal Democrats. The state was 75% White. Once it got below 70% White, something happened.

    So Ronald Reagan was a liberal Democrat? (he served as governor of California from
    January 3, 1967 – January 7, 1975…)

    1. You’re a young guy, you were not around then and I was. Reagan was way more liberal as a governor of California than he was as a President. He basically warped into a hard right Republican under the influence of his wealthy reactionary wife, who he married for her money. I don’t believe the guy had any core politics. He’s just an actor. People don’t realize it, but Reagan was pro-choice as a governor. He signed our state’s first abortion law.

      He rose to power by standing up against long haired hippie anti-war protestors at the state universities, but most suburban middle class Whites were older and they thought those hippie war protesters were a bunch of assholes.

      California politics were pretty liberal back on those days. The K-12 schools, the universities, the state parks, the libraries, all of that was well-funded and in good shape. Reagan wasn’t governing from the Right at all.

    2. Reagan was as well the first governor, as well as the first American politician, to sign into law the first ‘no-fault’ divorce laws in the United States.

      Arggh, Ronnie truly knew how to put the ‘con’ into CONservatism!

    3. Reagan used to a Democrat. He was the head of Screen Actors Guild, basically a typically Hollywood liberal Democrat. He came under the influence of his wife, Nancy. She’s a super hard rightwing reactionary who comes from big, big, big money. Her father was some gazillionaire businessman. She basically influenced Ronnie to turn him into a conservative.

      Supposedly, when Reagan was President, the real hardcore rightwingers thought he wasn’t a real conservative. I remember during the 1984 debates, his Veep candidate was saying, “Well, of course we’re not going eliminate welfare! We just want to cut it a bit.” Look at how the mood changed only 12 years later. It was only after Reagan was out of office that the conservatives lionized the guy. They all love him now, he’s their God.

    4. Yeah but Reagan didn’t turn Democrat over race. Hollywood actors have never cared much about race, and Hollywood is not a very racist town, no matter what the antiracists say. I hung out there every weekend for many years, I ought to know! He turned into a racist in 1980 though, I guess to get votes. I don’t understand Reagan.

      You know, tulio, that the main reason that those Southern Whites went from Democrat to Republican is all about race, right? This happened after the signing of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. When Johnson signed that bill, he said, “Well, we just lost the South for a generation.” It will be longer than that. And Nixon’s Southern Strategy was a blatantly racist game.

      You know, in the Sierra mountains, it’s not uncommon to meet older White Democrats who say they haven’t voted for a Democrat since JFK. That’s all about race!

    5. Yeah I’m aware of that. In fact even MLK was a Republican up until 1960. The southern strategy was most recently when “someone”(many think it was the Bush team) planted the rumor that John McCain’s adopted Bangladeshi daughter was a black child he fathered illegitimately. Nothing will get the bigots fired up quicker than miscegenation and illegitimacy wrapped into one. Plus someone too obtuse to know the difference between a Bangladeshi and a black might fall for it.

    6. That black child rumor cost him the S. Carolina primary. He was getting all kinds of angry calls about it. S. Carolinians actually feel for this nonsense. S. Carolina is the most racist state in the country, easily.

  27. To alpha unit:

    Isn’t it something how elites will screw non-elites, regardless of race?

    Yep… cash is king.

  28. To Rob:

    I only know two White people who complain about those bankers who blew up the economy. Other than that, I never hear anyone talk about it.
    Well make it three… you can include me.

    And basically the authors and commentators on this site (okay.. not all White but most..)

    http://www.zerohedge.com
    and here
    http://www.calculatedriskblog.com
    and here
    http://wallstreetexaminer.com
    and here
    http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com

    All I hear Whites say is, “Obaaamaaa is eeeeeeviiiil.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/06/30/2008-06-30_barack_obama_has_collected_nearly_twice_-2.html

    “Wall Street is investing heavily in Barack Obama.
    Although the Democratic presidential hopeful has vowed to raise capital gains and corporate taxes, financial industry bigs have contributed almost twice as much to Obama as to GOP rival John McCain, a Daily News analysis of campaign records shows”

    Not evil in my opinion but for the “little guy” ?
    ‘cough’

    1. I thought you were supporting the banksters. You kept saying that there was nothing wrong with neoliberalism per se, that it was working just fine, that the problem was “corruption.”

      You didn’t seem to figure out that neoliberal doctrine created the so-called corruption, that not one so-called criminal has gone to prison over this shit, if indeed it’s against the law, and that the neoliberal advocates cheered the corruption on the whole time it was occurring. Further, neoliberal doctrine opposes and makes impossible any efforts by the state to stop the corruption from happening in the first place or fix it once it did. IOW, the blowup wasn’t a bug, it was a feature. The system was working just as it was programmed to work.

      If you’ve figured this out, let me know…

      OK, there are Whites complaining about it, but is it a White thing? What are Whites agitated about? To figure this out, we must look at the Republican Party, which anymore is just the US White People’s Party. So is the Republican Party upset about the bankers that blew up the world? Nope, they are those people.

  29. To Rob:

    More from an Obama supporter about the bill:

    I’ve read a good deal this morning about the terms of the health care bill, much of which is terribly convoluted (yawn). Most of the key provisions don’t take effect or get interesting until 2014, at which point its success or lack thereof will be determined by the quote levels for premiums that show up on exchange boards, dicey given the failure to deal with medical costs. The boards require standardization in policies to participate, which might at least help with consumer choice. At that point, the penalties for not participating will be enacted, and that only gets serious in 2016. The penalty formula is also convoluted, you’ll probably have to consult an accountant to figure it out. I get the sense that unless premiums and costs have been reduced, most will opt out, pay the tax and wait until they become sick to enroll given that denying coverage for preexisting conditions for adults will be prevented in 2014. I could find little if any information concerning oversight of insurance rates, as the approach seem to be “market oriented,” without real competition or anti-trust provisions. We know how that formula works out.

    The key provisions that kick in now are mostly tweaks. (19 listed here) The important part of the bill is the ending of rescissions whereby insurers just bounce sick people off of their coverage. That seems elementary and makes one wonder why it had to wait for so-called reform. The big item looks to be a large tax credit of 35 to 50 percent for small businesses (less than 25 full-time employees) that provide coverage. Again more work for tax accountants, and I imagine paperwork will be challenging. In other words, a subsidy to drum up business for the medical and insurance industry. They also tweaked the Medicare “donut hole,” and in effect provided more coverage for prescription drugs. Again, a benefit for the pharmaceutical industry. Medicare payroll taxes were raised from 1.45 to 2.35 percent for individuals with over $200,000 in income and couples making more than $250,000.

  30. To Rob:

    You’re a young guy, you were not around then and I was. Reagan was way more liberal as a governor of California than he was as a President.

    I pulled this from Wikipedia (yeah I know Wikipedia):

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#Governor_of_California.2
    C_1967.E2.80.931975

    Early in 1967, the national debate on abortion was beginning. Democratic California state senator Anthony Beilenson introduced the “Therapeutic Abortion Act”, in an effort to reduce the number of “back-room abortions” performed in California.[64] The State Legislature sent the bill to Reagan’s desk where, after many days of indecision, he signed it.[67] About two million abortions would be performed as a result, mostly because of a provision in the bill allowing abortions for the well-being of the mother.[67] Reagan had been in office for only four months when he signed the bill, and stated that had he been more experienced as governor, it would not have been signed. After he recognized what he called the “consequences” of the bill, he announced that he was pro-life.[67] He maintained that position later in his political career, writing extensively about abortion.[68]

    By campaigning on a platform of sending “the welfare bums back to work”, he spoke out against the idea of the welfare state. He also strongly advocated the Republican ideal of less government regulation of the economy, including that of undue federal taxation.

    On May 15, 1969, during the People’s Park protests at UC Berkeley, Reagan sent the California Highway Patrol and other officers to quell the protests, in an incident that became known as “Bloody Thursday”.[64][65] Reagan then called out 2,200 state National Guard troops to occupy the city of Berkeley for two weeks in order to crack down on the protesters.[64] When the Symbionese Liberation Army kidnapped Patty Hearst in Berkeley and demanded the distribution of food to the poor, Reagan joked, “It’s just too bad we can’t have an epidemic of botulism.”[66]

    He sounds pretty conservative… especially in context of the late 60s to early mid-70s of California.

    His comments about “Socialized Medicine” from the early 60s:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

    1. Whatever his rhetoric, the fact is that state programs were in vastly better shape under Reagan than they have been from 1982-on. That’s all that matters. Reagan wasn’t in office gutting state programs like Dukemejian, Schwarzenegger and Gray Davis were. It was a different era. Recall this was the time of Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford in the Presidency. That’s what it meant to be a Republican back in those days, and Ronald Reagan was pretty much in step with that trend. He wasn’t considered a far rightwinger or anything like that. But you know, I was 10-18 years old during that era, so I was not that politically sophisticated. Just seemed that there was not a lot of political partisanship, extreme differentiation and outright hostility back then as there is now.

      The White neighborhoods that I lived in voted for Nixon. There were people against Nixon and even the War but those were mostly acid-dropping hippies with long hair. The older Whites in my neighborhood, including my parents, really, really hated the hippie and youth movement.

      But there’s no way you can compare Reagan’s politics as governor to Reaganism when he was President. When he was President, he basically turned into fucking Barry Goldwater! I mean, he went hard hard hard rightwing. He was nothing like that as governor.

      Abortion wasn’t even very controversial in the 1970’s. I know lots of girls who were getting them. If any White girl at my school got knocked up, she got an abortion just like that. No White girl would have a baby at my school. That was just not a White thing to do. You’re acting like a Black or a Mexican if you do that, extremely low class. Extremely!

      The California governorship started going really hard right with Dukemejian,and once again, the Whites around me all voted for him. He was a Reaganite, a real asshole! But even then, state institutions were in relatively good shape, at least at first. Prop 13 hadn’t really kicked in hard yet.

  31. So Robert, I guess I sound like you then? Lol!

    It’s very difficult to place you into any neat and convenient ideological category. While you’re an economic leftist and champion of individual liberty, you also despise PC leftists.

    You have a great deal of disdain for white nationalism, yet you also are pro-white. You classify yourself as an anti-racist, but you’re not one of those self-righteous, self-aggrandizing anti-racist assholes like Tim Wise, Robert Jensen, Molly Secours, Paul Street, etc.

    I too am not easy to categorize. Since I’m new here, I’m not going to lay out all of my views, but I appreciate your individuality and unwillingness to bind yourself to a strict ideological category. When people strictly adhere to rigid beliefs, be they “liberal” or “conservative,” they become predictable and lose objectivity.

    Anyway, enjoy the blog!

    1. Yep, that’s about it. I don’t mind Tim Wise sometimes, but a lot of the time, he’s just wrong. And his views infect the whole anti-racist scene. Sorry, I just don’t believe “White people are evil.” That’s the subtext of the whole anti-racist thing, and I think it’s nuts. I especially think it’s crazy that we Whites are less moral than these other groups like Hispanics, Amerindians, Asians, Polynesians, Melanesians, Papuans, Aborigines, Arabs, South Asians, etc.

      I’ve studied all these people and trust me, they ain’t moral paragons!

      PC Leftism just defies logic. It doesn’t make sense. I only support theories that make sense.

      White nationalism bugs me too, mostly because they hate other White people so much, and they insist that lots of people who are obviously White are not. Also, they hate everyone who isn’t White, and I’m not down with that. I like other races.

      I’m pro-White because I’m White. Anti-White stuff tends to hurt me directly, so I’m opposed to it. Plus I actually like my people and our great civilizations and achievements.

  32. To Tulio:

    Of course an amnesty will go through. But remember, it’s not the first one. We got a big one under Reagan, and that’s with fewer Hispanic voters than now.

    Yes I knew about Reagan signing the 1986 amnesty bill. (which was actually called an amnesty..) Well intentioned and bipartisan it was supposed to strengthen border security and enforcement and provided for fines for employers who “knowingly” employed illegal labor. Obviously it did not turn out the way the framer’s intended it. You may know there have multiple mini amnesties since then, a good portion of which were sponsored by Ted Kennedy.

    What’s stunning is that the current amnesty is being pushed during the worst economic period in the US since the 1930s, but I agree that eventually the plutocrats will get their way.

  33. To Rob:

    I thought you were supporting the banksters.
    You kept saying that there was nothing wrong with neoliberalism per se, that it was working just fine, that the problem was “corruption.”

    No… I don’t why you thought that. I would not have used the word “corruption” in reference to the recent activities of the large Wall Street Banks, I would have used fraud, eg something that could (or should) carry both civil and criminal penalties.

    I have also stated repeatedly my dismay at the rapid de-industrialization of the US through the outsourcing of industry and more recently services and also the drive to drop wages by importing illegal labor and the abuse of H1B and L1 visa programs.

  34. “As with so many things in our society, opposition to ObamaCare is so about race”

    So what? I don’t like capitalism either but I would not just sit by if I thought someone was taking from me to give their group. Fuck that.

    This whole idea about ‘reactionary white america’ that you keep babbling about is garbage. White americans can be very collectivist. Look at the areas comonly associated with the tea party now: the midwest and the south. One hundred years ago the midwest and the south were hotbeds of populism. White southerners even voted as a block for that fake socialist FDR. People all over the midwest were union members. One author wrote a book on how Kansas went from voting for populist democrats to voting for capitalist republicans. It was called something like “What Happened to Kansas?” The real question though is “What the fuck happened to the democratic party?” The managed to take these populist area and totally alienated them. The took the factory worker who worked for a living in his overalls and boots and replaced him with faggots maching around in stillettos and diapers. The party of Andrew Jackson has turned with a vengence against his own descendents in the south. All these men who they have shit on for at least the last 50 years were proud of their people. They weren’t some pinko faggot loving minority worhippers. I believe much of this has to do with the corruption of the left by the upper class. Disgusting acts like faggotry were looked down upon by past generations of leftist were now worshipped. They made it so voting for populist causes meant voting for people who would put in laws that would discriminate against them and their children.

    These tea partiers are right to hate obama and hate the democrats. the problem is that they should hate the Republicans as well. The democrats have alienated them so much that they have been suckered into false populism by tools of the elite. It’s time we dropped the hate whitey line that you parrot so much in articles like this and return to the REAL left. Not some multiculturalist faggot parade.

    1. Don’t think so, Wade.

      Remnember that Tim Wise article you linked earlier today, where he rails against older rightwing White voters? I agree with everything Tim Wise said in that piece.

      Remember:

      Liberal race realism is based on four things:

      Positive White identity
      Race realism
      The Leftist view of US history
      Anti-racism

      You are unlikely to be happy about the latter two, but they are part of the package.

      1. “You are unlikely to be happy about the latter two, but they are part of the package”

        You’re right. The package is rotten.

        Also, please define ‘The leftist view of US history.’ Do you consider pre 60’s politically incorrect leftists to be not really leftist?

        And frankly, I don’t see where anything I’ve said is racist. It was all true. ‘Anti-racism’ is another hazy word that can be defined to be whatever suits the political mood. My belief is that if its true, its not racist. I really don’t care about offending people.

        If by anti-racist you mean anti-imperialist then I’m 100% with you. If by anti racist you mean affirmative action, speical loans for minority business owners, and the civil rights racket then I sure as hell don’t agree with it. Frankly, I’d rather see the US go into oblivion then see all whites turn into a bunch of Tim Wise/Eminem clones even if they do support anti-capitalist policies.

        I’m consider myself a populist. I don’t like socialism. Partially because of the Tim Wise type characters involved with it.

        As a side question…What do you think about Stalin? I write this because I think a lot about the contrast between stalinism and the fake left of the US. I don;t like all the things I’ve read about him, but I do like many of them. I’ve read you write a few things but never a full opinion.

        Also, what is you position on homos as a liberal race realist? Homosexuality seems like capitalist decadence to me.

        1. Hard to say about Stalin. Do a search on the blog. I wrote a lot of stuff about him.

          Of course I support the civil rights movement, laws, etc. After all, I am a liberal.

          The Leftist view of US history: We invaded the place, stole the land from Indians, enslaved Blacks, stole other land from Mexicans, etc. Support for the Union in the Civil War. Support for slave rebellions. Support for John Brown, my hero. Etc etc. I have relatives who got captured by Indians and almost killed. I almost wish the Indians would have killed them.

          I’m not wild about homosexuality, but the men at least can’t help it. So I support gay rights completely. I am even on their mailing lists. Nevertheless, sometimes I think they are too open and out nowadays. Gay pride parades are pretty sickening, and I’m not wild about male homosexuals personally. They keep trying to fuck me!

        2. Yeah you’re a racist all right! LOL. Never knew until today. Oh well, I don’t agree, but make yourself at home here, there’s plenty of your kind around here.

          I’m a race realist, not a racist. I’m a liberal. We don’t do the racist thingie. We’re not into animosity towards other races. However, I dislike Nigerians and Gypsies, LOL.

          Anti-racism means no overt animosity towards whole races and especially being as nice to decent individuals of other races as you are to your own kind.

        3. Well Robert, most anti-racists are not like you at all.

          In their eyes, you’re also a vile and disgusting racist.

          I guess it depends on how you define “racist.” You see “racism” as hatred and animosity. They see “racism” as subtle discriminatory attitudes and feelings of contempt for blacks.

          Anti-racists tend to subscribe to the “aversive racism” doctrine so popular in Critical Race Theory.

        4. ” We invaded the place, stole the land from Indians, enslaved Blacks”

          Fair enough, although the Indians did sell some of that land (ie Manhattan and larger areas)

          “stole other land from Mexicans, etc.”

          You know from my post about aztlanists that I disagree with this one. If you want to say the land was stolen from someone you should say it was stolen from the native americans. And if you do consider it mexican land you also have to remember that they sold part of that land (Gasden Purchase) to the United States.

          “Support for the Union in the Civil War.”

          That’s not all that liberal. I’m against aristocratic land holders in the south. Also, how many of these northern soldiers do you think were ‘anti-racist’?

          ” Support for slave rebellions.”

          No way. I don’t like the idea of slavery, but if some motherfucker came after my family, slaveholding or not, you don’t want to know the horrible shit i’d do to them. And frankly, do these really turn out well? Do you really think it would be good if the deep south was ‘New Haiti.’

          Support for John Brown, my hero.

          Lol. Didn’t John Brown have extremely condescending views toward blacks?

          “I have relatives who got captured by Indians and almost killed. I almost wish the Indians would have killed them”

          Well that’s kind of sick. If an indian killed a relative of mine and I had the resources to return the favor his whole tribe would be gone.

          My general view is that there have been things done wrong in american history and if I was able to go back and stop expansion and the Appalachians I would. However, I can’t do that and I’m not going to disadvantage myself or my offspring by supporting programs that discriminate against them. As I have said before, humans are apes not angels. Anyone who will not stick up for his own will lose the struggle for life.

          Not to be annoying, but I also wonder about your opinion on Andrew Jackson.

        5. Wade, the more you talk, the more I agree with you.

          Great to have you on board!

          And yeah, I too share your Machiavellian view of human nature. We are ultimately animals, and not angels.

          Human history, white and non-white, demonstrates this.

          I think the problem with many people on the left is that there is an underlying presumption of the natural saintliness of human beings. They think that if we could just abolish all these “social constructs” and other forces of discrimination, we would somehow enjoy utopia.

          At the very least, many of them lack an understanding of world history and power politics.

        6. “Yeah you’re a racist all right! LOL. Never knew until today”

          I actually oscillate between overt racial outbursts and more subdued and thoughtful comments. I’m just like this. I have mood swings. Those France videos you put up really got to me. That kind of behavior really pisses me off. I probably shouldn’t think those things about blacks that I do sometimes, after all, you can find the same behavior in many russian neo nazi videos. I think they’re garbage too. (Neo nazis, not russians) And while my opinion of the jews is certainly not the highest, a lot of what I say are jokes (ie the hooked beak remark).

          That being said, I do disagree with many of the current politics of the US and not just at a practical politics level, but at a metapolitical level as well. It doesn’t matter though. Lets face it. If someone with my opinions started to get popular at all I would mystriously die in a car accident or something like that. The ruling classes would not tolerated it.

          The reason my comments on homos have been so harsh is because of 1)gay pride parades and 2) self righteouness of a lot of gay rights protestors annoys me..like most self righteousness does. I actually have a cousin who’s gay and I don’t care really, I just think the lifestyle needs to be done a little differently. I also think that everyone, including men and women, should have civil unions. Marriage is religious and the government should not have anything to do with it.

          As far as offending people, if its true I never give a shit if its offending. In real life I take a more civilized approach to people I disagree with or don;t like, but this is the internet so who gives a shit.

    2. The problem, as I’ve said before, is that the left has become a Cultural Marxist entity.

      It no longer focuses as much on economics or ensuring truly progressive policies on issues that matter most (economics, education, etc).

      Instead, they continue to suck up to blacks, Hispanics, homos, etc.

      They’ve moved increasingly to the right on economic and other issues, but increasingly to the left on racial and cultural issues.

      In non-western countries, the left is the exact opposite. They’re left on economic issues, but at the same time nationalistic and patriotic.

      It’s time we dropped the hate whitey line that you parrot so much in articles like this and return to the REAL left. Not some multiculturalist faggot parade.

      Bingo.

      Though in all fairness, Robert is hardly a fan of Cultural Marxism or the multiculturalist elements of the left.

      He’s a leftist when it comes to economics, first and foremost. If more leftists were like him in that regard, I wouldn’t despise the left so much.

  35. “Pretty low. Trail of Tears, right? Fuck that”

    True. That was a tradgedy, but it was not everything that he did. He did try to stick up for the little guy, at least if the little guy was white. Sure he’s has large flaws, but I don’t believe he all bad. He did adopt a native american son…although he slaughtered his parents before hand. I’ve always been told that according to schleshinger he was one who really started sticking up for the common man. Admittidly though, I have not read Schleshinger. either way, I find him soewhat admirable becasue he crawled his way up from the dregs of society to become an extremely influential man..but then again so did Hitler.

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