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The male children, at least.
This has been true at least in the past 150 years or so. We went through Hell for decades already with the Sicilians, the Irish and the Jews. After some time, they’ve all comfortably made it to middle class America and beyond. The Irish, Jewish and Sicilian ghettos of yore are nowhere to be found.
We are seeing it again with Hispanic illegal immigrants from Mesoamerica and the Dominican Republic and with unscreened immigrants from US colonies in Puerto Rico and Western Samoa. The first generation of illegal or unscreened immigrants produces criminal children, which then produces a criminal culture.
In some cases, it ends right there, and the newer generations assimilate well. In other cases, as with the White ethnics above, you end up with decades of Underclass Hell before they finally climb aboard. In other cases, the criminal children of the first generation may produce a permanent Underclass. Look at the Gypsies in Europe. They’ve been there since 1100. They’re still as Underclass as the day they showed up.
White racists hate to hear this, but legal immigrants to the US seem to cause relatively few problems.
We screen them very well, it takes years to even get in in the first place, they have to jump through endless hurdles and pay lots of money, and once they get in, they have to be on good behavior, or the first arrest and they get tossed back to wherever. In general, I think their children do well too.
Liberal Race Realism argues that what it boils down to is that the overwhelming majority of immigrant problems in the US are caused by illegal and unscreened and to a lesser extent, low-wage immigrants and their multiple lines of descendants.
This also seems to be the case in Australia, New Zealand and Europe.
The importation of Pacific Islander low wage immigrants to Australia and New Zealand has been bad news. Many are not fitting in at all and are just forming Underclasses, which at this point seem interminable. A Liberal Race Realist position would argue that Pacific Islander immigration to these lands must be either stopped altogether or urgent research must be done to figure out which PI’s are most likely to thrive and only allow those in.
Importation of low-wage Arab, North African, Jamaican and Pakistani immigrants to Europe has been disastrous. In large part this is due to Islam, except for the Jamaicans, but the end result is the same. Due to Islam, one wonders not when assimilation to European society will occur with these immigrants but whether it is even possible.
The reproduction of the gang – barrio – vato idiot Underclass among US Hispanics is urgently in need of study. Studies are concluding that this pathological culture is now going on five generations here in the US.
A Liberal Race Realist position asks the following:
What’s causing this? What are the factors behind it? What are the characteristics of Hispanics in the Underclass and those assimilating? Forget ending it; it’s probably permanent. How do we keep it from growing, and how do we quit importing more nightmares?
As I have mentioned before, US Hispanics are split into two vast groups – an assimilated group doing well and a nightmarish Underclass, with a lot of movement in between.
My friends and I grew up with Hispanics in Orange County in the 1960’s, 70’s and 80’s. The ones we knew were all completely assimilated to US culture and were for all intents and purposes just Americans like anyone else. They were sort of like White people with some interesting ancestry.
As a native Californian, I recognize that Hispanics are part of the neighborhood here in my state. Many of them have just as much or more right to be here as the rest of us. I grew up with them, befriended them and had Mexican girlfriends. I was taking Spanish lessons at age 6. I asked my Mom why and she peered into her crystal ball and said, “This is the future.” I’m not kidding, exact words.
For fun, we slummed it up in Mexico on a regular basis, but we were always happy to make to the other side of the border at the end. I had six years of Spanish in school. I’ve eaten great Mexican food my whole life. Hell, I even go to a Catholic Mass now, and I go to the Spanish language session, because the music is better, the crowd is more relaxed and the women are nicer and better looking.
The Mexican-American friends I grew up with absolutely despised the nascent barrio – vato – gangster culture at the time. There was some of it in the 1970’s – mostly in East LA. My friends were blistering in their contempt for these people, who they called garbage, maggots and other endearing terms. They had nothing to do with them, would not even talk to them, and hated being associated with them.
What’s odd now is the metasticization of this crap barrio – vato – gangster Hispanic culture all across California. What was once a pretty minor element in Hispanic life in California in the 1970’s (at the time most Hispanics here seemed well-assimilated like the ones I knew) has burgeoned across the state like a rampaging cancer.
And my assimilated Hispanic friends, who once regarded the barrio crowd as worms (Rightly so!) now defend them to me in conversation. Sadly, my once-perfectly assimilated Hispanic friends have now adopted Hispanic Identity Politics like everyone else.
Given what we now know about the children of low-wage immigrants becoming criminals, often multi-generational, in more advanced societies, the obvious, sane, bipartisan, non-racist (Liberal Race Realist) solution is to simply stop importing low-wage immigrants period. If we do need to import them, we can always import some real guest workers like via the Bracero Program.
The Hispanic activists (illegal alien lovers) get all upset when anyone mentions the Bracero Program. Apparently the workers were treated like shit back in the day, in the 1950’s. Well, here it is, 2008, and what do you know, illegal alien workers are often treated like shit too.
The more things change, the more things stay the same. That’s not a problem with guest worker programs. The problem is that it’s the American way to treat workers like shit.
Anyway, whatever it’s faults, a Bracero Program 2008 would seem better than the current nightmare of turning the US Southwest into Northern Tijuana.
A commenter, James Schipper, noted on an earlier post that illegal immigrants who have been in the US for 10 years or so have shown significant duty to country such that they can be amnestied in. This was my position up until 2½ years ago. As long as I always lived in White areas in California, I could afford to be liberal on immigration.
Now that I live the barrio, I’ve lost all my illusions. Getting hit on the head with the reality stick can be a tough beating. I want all the illegals gone, not now, yesterday, and I don’t give a damn how long they’ve been here. I don’t care about breaking up their damned families. I don’t care about anything anymore about these people.
Liberal Race Realists recognize that the very qualities that make low-wage immigrants, in particular illegal immigrants, such problem immigrants in Western nations will not magically vanish as soon as you grant them amnesty.
My impression is that the children of the illegals who were amnestied in in 1986 are just as bad, if not worse, than the children of the illegals themselves. Legalizing them via amnesty does not magically transform low-quality illegal immigrants in fine, upstanding citizens. I doubt it if does much good at all except to legalize more problem residents of our nation.
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