What's It Like To Teach Black Kids?

A very depressing article on the blog of Marty Nemko, a libertarian journalist who writes on education for the conservative US News and World Report. He reprinted an article of the same name from the White nationalist publication American Renaissance written by Christopher Jackson, a young teacher early in his career teaching at a Black school in the South.
I read through 200 of the comments, and a lot of them are just painful. Some are extremely angry, and there are a number of Whites on there who have had it up to here with Blacks. Many of them say they started out liking Blacks and trying to give them a chance, but they finally just gave up. There are also many comments from students who went to school with Blacks or teachers who taught Blacks.
One frightening thread in the very angry comments from Whites is that we need to go back to segregated schools.
I went to all-White schools. There was one Black guy in our school, and I was friends with him. He was sort of a bastard (he left me in a park late one night stoned out of my skull and finally picked me up 45 minutes later, laughing) but he had his good qualities too.
I taught Blacks in school for years and will hopefully never do so again. I suppose I would teach them in college.
It may well have been my fault. Maybe I just did not know how to handle them. I often walked by the rooms of (usually female) Black teachers at the most Hellish, insane, flat out evil ghetto junior high schools and saw those Black ladies had those kids absolutely silent and obedient. A White teacher was able to do the same. So it’s not that the kids were inherently uncontrollable, but it seemed to take a very special touch.
I also dealt with a lot of Black teachers along the way, mostly females. By and large, they were as professional as any teacher, and they often seemed to have a way with the Black kids that I did not have. I also dealt with many Black administrators, and in general, they were competent and professional. In the heart of Watts, they have sort of given up, but what are you supposed to do in a place like that? The Black teachers and administrators were often very easy to get along with. Easier than uptight Whites!
I’ve worked with some Blacks outside of teaching, and in general, they did a good job. We had some at the legal coding place I worked at, and they were polite, intelligent, well-behaved, punctual and apparently good workers.
The problem with this situation is that it seems to lead folks to drastic conclusions. Whites deal with lots of Blacks as fellow students, or teaching lots of Blacks in the schools, and they just throw up their hands. The typical response is to get rid of civil rights laws, bring back segregation or form a White separatist state. The first prescription is the most common.
There are other choices, one of which is to stop putting up with so much outrageous behavior from Black kids. At a certain age, we ought to be able to suspend them regularly. If you can’t act human, you can’t be in school. Whenever you decide to start acting like a human again, you can come back in. I guess we could give them numerous chances. At some point, maybe you expel them. Or maybe throw the bad ones into a “bad kids school” and keep the good kids of all races in the “good kids school.” It’s ridiculous that a small number of Black kids can ruin the experience for the rest of them.
Nobody wants to do this because you would have lots of Black kids getting suspended or expelled. The usual suspects are going to scream racism. But it’s better than the first three openly racist proscriptions bolded above.
As far as dumbed down curriculum, I guess I don’t mind. If you warm a seat for four years, you get your semi-worthless HS diploma sheet of paper. Amazingly, a lot of Blacks and Hispancis can’t even seem to manage the chair-warming thing, so I guess a HS diploma still means something.
But beyond that to dumbing down college, no way! I am hearing stories about entry level community college courses like English 1A being dumbed down. Forget it! A HS diploma is depreciated enough; the last thing we need is worthless college diplomas.

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47 thoughts on “What's It Like To Teach Black Kids?”

  1. Things must have really changed in the Southeast since I left over twenty-five years ago.
    Some of what Mr. Jackson describes rings true to me, but some of it I find hard to believe. When I was in school, a lot of the bad behavior would have been confined to a few kids in an entire class, or in some cases to just one kid (usually a boy). But an entire class of unruly, disrespectful, willfully ignorant kids? Something has changed there.
    What Jackson describes doesn’t sound like high school at all to me. Even in elementary school we weren’t that out of control.
    I grew up listening to Southern blacks, and some of the speech patterns Jackson reports aren’t recognizable to me.
    What is going on here?

  2. The black kids in my spanish class are soo mean, rude, ghetto and loud to my spanish teacher..They call her a ‘stupid mexican'(she is Cuban but she looks white) and always cuss at her..
    OH GOD, I am Indian and they don’t like me at all..
    Surprisingly, Black kids know about the caste system in India and they believe the dalits are black people living in India who are widely discriminated..
    I belong to the high caste and they all hate me and call me a racist and a stupid paki..
    Most of the black kids in my experience are ghetto and loud and they seem to be proud of it..

    1. In India, you can find plenty of light skinned ‘dalits’ in the ‘Aryan’ north and a lot of dark skinned higher caste ‘Dravidians’ down south. The color line there is much more fuzzy. Genetically, the ‘Dravidians’ are closer to Australian Aborigines and Papuans than to African Blacks.

    2. Actually, the Dravidians are not all that close to Papuans or Aborigines on genes at all. Some of them have skulls that look like those people though.
      For sure, no one in India is remotely related genetically to Africans.

    3. Probably they share the genes that determine skull shape. Instead of looking at whole genome similarities, we should start comparing gene sequences that determine skin color, skull shape, IQ etc. It would be interesting to know why different races share some traits and not others. e.g., Europeans and Northeast Asians evolved in about the same latitudes/climate and have light skin and high IQ but how come the Asians developed slanted eyes and Europeans did not?

    4. Indians look like caucasians with tan/dark/brown/olive skin..
      I have always mistaken Indians for spainards, Italians, Hispanics and Middle easterners..
      the dalits or the Indians that live in the slums look like aborigines but I have never seen those type of Indians …
      Besides, I don’t think Indians are related to blacks since they don’t have african features..

    5. Emma- you don’t see Indians that look like aborigines because most of the Indians in the US belong to either the middle caste or high caste..
      There are some tamils here in the US and they DO look like aborigines..
      Tamils are the only ethnic group in India that resemble like aborigines..
      Probably, its the tamils that you see in the slums and villages of India

    6. Yeah nobody knows how those eyes developed. Some think they got them to protect against the sun shining off the ice where the NE Asians evolved, but all Asians have those, even Andaman Islanders who are related to the first folks out of Africa.
      Truth is? NO ONE is really related to those Papuans and Aborigines. They are so far distant from all the other races, that they are almost like Blacks in that no one is really related to them. They are hardly even related to each other. They are REALLY different.

    7. I think there are other groups that look like Aborigines too. Some of the tribals seem to have that look about them, and maybe some Dalits too. Dalits in general are not Tamils. Tamils are just a group living in the South. They have all of the castes of the rest of India. The Dalits sometimes look more aborigine than the rest of Indians because they are closer related to the indigenous people of India, who were kind of Aborigine looking.

  3. I am an elderly white man who grew up in the South during the era much derided as “Jim Crow.” It was actually a much more peaceful time in terms of race relations than what we have today, and the blacks of that day were much happier than they are today.
    My family had a black maid, Thelma by name, and she told me when I was a small child, “Black people are different from white people.” She proceeded to illustrate this over the years with many stories from her own life. She would tell me how, for discipline, she would whip her son with a lamp cord, striking him when he was asleep, because that was the only way she could get in a few licks before he woke up and over powered her. She felt no particular guilt at the fact that she became pregnant by a man other than her husband; that is just how they did things in the black community. Nor was it a big deal when her husband would frequently come home drunk and beat her. She just said, “Black people are different from white people,” and she was entirely right about that.
    The blacks had their separate high school, and I would estimate that their high school diploma was probably about the equivalent of an 8th grade education in the white schools. There were then, and there are today, black colleges for those who want to attend them. It was possible for blacks who really were motivated to attend white colleges, as witness Dr. Thomas Sowell, but these were rare. But they were happy. The black family was reasonably intact (I say that with some reservation), the black Church was functioning, there were many black business men, there was a strong sense of black community. There was not the ever present sense of rage and anger that we see today, a sense of having been cheated. That had yet to be manufactured by the 1960s.
    In the 1960s, we had the Great Society which rapidly destroyed what degree of pride and self reliance there was in the black community and replaced it with a sense of victimhood and dependence. This has only increased progressively ever since.
    Robert, in your post, you say, “At a certain age, we ought to be able to suspend them regularly. ” If you have been a teacher, you have to realize that repeated suspensions completely destroy the continuity of what you are trying to accomplish in the classroom. For a kid that is not doing well in the first place, to repeatedly miss a number of classes, is a recipe for failure.
    You also said, “As far as dumbed down curriculum, I guess I don’t mind.” You do realize, of course, that when you dumb the curriculum down for the black kids, you dumb the curriculum down for ALL the kids. So the whole school gets a much reduced education. At the end of 12 years, the high school diploma that is awarded is truly worth very little. But then you say, dumb down college, no way! How can you not dumb down college when all the entering freshmen are the graduates of these dumbed down high schools? Whether you like it or not, it has already happened. I am a retired college professor.

    1. You say that black people were happy during the Jim Crow era. How was this happiness evident?
      That is, what would have shown the average white Southerner that the blacks in their midst were happy?

    2. There were many African American advocates of All Black Cities. One example being Zora Neale Hurston, a writer who fell out of popularity due to her views. However her views most likely stem from the mistreatment African Americans received during the years of segregation. Take Ralph Ellison, author of The Invisible Man. His book shows a negative portrayal of how African Americans were treated in society. Who wouldn’t want an All Black City away from Whites and their lynch mobs?
      If you can’t see that, and you’re from the same era, it’s because you haven’t experienced it or turned a blind eye to the injustice. I’d hope that you don’t think segregation is a positive thing now, especially given that you taught college. I’ve had teachers who confessed that in their younger years when segregation was still present, they believed in that system. However they realized that it was not fair.
      And they already do dumb down classes. It’s YOUR choice whether or not you want to take them. I used to take AP classes, however this senior year I wanted an easy breeze. Regular classes are painfully easy. I almost don’t even have to try.

  4. I don’t know if the Professor will return. But what he is saying sounds very familiar.
    Southern whites have been known for saying that black people were happy in the South and that everything was just fine down there. Things would have stayed just fine if not for outside agitators stirring up trouble.
    The outside agitators were routinely identified as Communists or Jews. To some people, of course, “Communist” and “Jew” are synonyms.

    1. Yes! I have heard this so many times now! Nowadays it’s kind of a neo-Nazi thing. The CommieJews took over the US and ruined Blacks, or Jewish Communism ruined Blacks.
      Whether Blacks were happy or not down there is irrelevant. Question is how many Blacks want to go back to that. I say just about zero.

    2. This is true. And none of the whites who loved to talk about how happy black people were would have traded places with a single one of them.

    3. The outside agitators were routinely identified as Communists or Jews. To some people, of course, “Communist” and “Jew” are synonyms.

      That is correct. They were New York Jews with lots of money. All of this was set into motion by a Jew by the name of Leo Frank. If it was not for Frank, the KKK would not have existed.

    4. What are you saying, EG? That black people in the South were perfectly content with their lot until some Jews arrived from New York and told them how miserable they were?

    5. The Jews put revolutionary ideas into their heads. Without them, the Black Panther Party would not existed, either.
      See this book. Read the chapters that pertain to Jews and Civil Rights. If you want to read all of it, give yourself a good four months.

    6. The truth is, anyone who would have stepped up to help Southern blacks would have been denounced for it.
      In the minds of a lot of white Southerners, there WAS no race problem in the South–as long as everyone just stayed in their place. Southerners had the good sense to know this. Outsiders, on the other hand, caused nothing but trouble by insisting that the Constitution actually applied to black people.

    7. When you are convinced that people are happy, you won’t see any of the signs that they’re not.
      Then, when their unhappiness is apparent, I guess you’ll be telling yourself it’s not coming from them. It must be coming from somewhere else.

    1. The Syrian and Roman Christians in India were Brahmins who converted to Christianity and they make up 35% of the Indian population..
      the rest 65% of christians in India are dalits converts..

    2. Sadly, there is caste system in Christianity too..
      The high/middle caste Christians are the Roman and Syrian Christians since they were formerly Brahmins who converted to Christianity..
      the dalit christians are the low caste christians and they are treated badly

    3. yea, the guy in the pic looks mixed with aborigine..
      The Syrian and Roman catholics in India were Brahmins who converted to Christianity.. I just read the wikipedia..
      the rest are dalits and there is only one dalit priest in India and he is the guy on the pic..

    1. l admit – l was wrong!
      One negro has actually invented something. Ray Charles “Hit the road Jack” is one of the best songs Ever.
      l only want the truth – no matter what.

  5. Do you know what the difference between the most dumbfucked black nigger motherfucker ever born and the brightest white communist-liberal shithead fo brain is?
    Da nigger is smart.

  6. heg (aka hoff2):
    Let’s see … You braindead white american communist-liberals shit for brain now have at least 50 years of jew instigated “diversity” and multiculti bullshit. You have done everything possibly to raise the black nigger and what do got?
    Da nigger is still a nigger.
    A nigger is a nigger and will always be a nigger.

    1. Say hi to the President when you get a chance, dumb a.s.s.
      Apparently, some Black men are smarter than you. LOL! You are an epic fail personified. Be careful, Darwinism is out to get you and the rest of your anachronistic kind.

  7. YOU PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF DAMN IDIOTS ESPECIALLY THE OLD WHITE WOMEN.BLACKS WERE HAPPY WITH NO RIGHTS?ARE YOU SERIOUS?YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE IDIOT.BLACKS PRETENDED TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE THEY WERE OPPRESSED THE SAME WAY THE WHITE SLAVE FARMERS DID IN ROME UNTIL THEY HAD THIER CHANCE TO UPRISE.BECAUSE OF WHITE SLAVERY BLACKS ARE IN MORE IMPOVERISHED CONDITIONS THEREFORE NOT HAVING THE FINICIAL OR FAMILY STRUCTURE WHITES HAVE AND THERFORE NOT BEING ABLE TO LEARN AS EASY OR FOCUS ON SCHOOL.THE SAME PROBLEM EXISTS WITH POOR WHITE KIDS.SINCE THE PRECENTAGE OF BLACK KIDS IN POVERTY IS MUCH HIGHER THEN WHITE KIDS IT SEEMS AS IF THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE BLACK CHIDLREN BUT IT IS NOT.THESE BLACK KIDS CANT FOCUS AS WELL IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS THEY LIVE IN AT HOME.BLACKS HAVE BEEN FREE IN THIS COUNTRY FOR A 100 YEARS WITH RIGHTS FOR LESS THEN 50 WHILE WHITES HAVE BEEN THRIVING HERE FOR OVER 500.THE BLACK CHILDREN ARE DOING GOOD FOR A RACE OVER 400 YEARS BEHIND WITH THE SAME RIGHTS AND LIBERTYS AS OTHER RACES.THE EDUCTAION PROBLEM WITH BLACK CHILDREN CAN BE DIRECTLY TRACED TO POVERTY OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN FAMILY WHICH CAN BE TRACED DIRECTLY BACK TO SLAVERY WHICH CAN PLACE THE BLAME SQAURELY ON YOUR UPPITY WHITE SHOULDERS.

    1. Said blame does not rest on the shoulders of a single white person in the world today. Those responsible for slavery, including the black slave traders who sold the slaves, are long dead and cannot be held accountable. The slaves, who were certainly entitled to just compensation, are also long dead. Some black people want to carry the torch of slavery and pass it on, and they don’t, seem to realize that it’s futile to do so.

  8. I cannot resist commenting on this post. Robert Lindsay, the black person above is banned, yet hoff 2’s racist jokes are acceptable? I cannot understand how one would rationalize such an unfair double standard. After reading your comment policy, I noticed that you reserved the right to ban anything you deemed offensive or disliked. Are you trying to admit, by your silence on hoff 2’s posts that you agreed with racist jokes? I charge you to also ban hoff 2 from this site. However, it is unlikely that you will ever hold yourself to the same standard to which you hold others. You will most likely ban me. It is unfortunate that you, and others like you will never realize the extent of your hypocrisy.

  9. For me, it was just a pissing away of my time and talent. As the Bible stated in the NT about “throwing pearls before pigs” pretty much sums it up!

  10. Worthless is worthless 😆 That’s why I go for a math degree. Even with a B grade in Calculus II, and no degree completed yet, I’m already getting job offers. You might be called a dicksucker, faggot, mama’s boy, brown nose, or whatever, 😆 but in the end I’ll have a job, while others are forced to work in fast food.
    Blacks and others including whites need to work for stuff that’s useful and going to bring results, nothing dumbed down
    But let’s not turn things into an idol, education isn’t everything. 😆

  11. Not all black kids are bad. This is a major exxageration. Some are. Those that are bad simply need to be dealt with harshly. If the ones that are bad are thrown, then probably the other black kids can learn.:lol:
    It’s as simple as that. 😆
    I remember when I was in school we had some white rednecks/hell-rasiers. They harassed students including myself, and grades of the harassed did go down. However, nobody would come down hard on those rednecks. If they had, maybe things would be different.

    1. Meant to say “If the ones that are bad are thrown OUT, then probably the other black kids can learn.:lol:
      In lots of things, people are thrown out. People fail at Calculus, people drop out Marine Corps Basic Training. Why can’t it be the same in school? Bad black kids, or ghetto types should be THROWN OUT. It’s just basic evolution.

  12. I didn’t spend much time around blacks until adulthood. The few blacks I came across were mostly good. In college I didn’t spend much time around them because they were loud and I didn’t like their rap music.
    Overall I thought the blacks were closer to the Huxtable family.
    Then I moved to the Washington, DC Metro area. Seeing them in public and having to deal with them on my own time and at work made me realize that the liberal media portrayal of blacks is a myth.
    I watched the Baltimore and Ferguson riots with horror. That behavior is more typical than the Huxtable family.
    I no longer buy the sad tale of the blacks. They breed like rabbits and are unable to take care of their kids. They are families that go back generations on welfare, with no real work history. They’ve been given quotas, vocational and advanced education, and while many succeed, most have failed.
    Look at any community that has more than 26% (double the national average of 13%) blacks, and high crime, poverty, deprivation, chaos and dysfunction will follow.
    Blacks, as a population, are responsible for more than half of all murders. Once that number is broken down by age and gender and gang/criminal affiliation–black males, aged 17 to 40–and you have a population well under 0.5%, yes ONE HALF OF ONE PERCENT, that is responsible for half of all murder victims.
    If there were no black people in the US, prisons, jail and those on parole would drop by half; insurance premiums for everything, would drop as coverage increased; less money per k-12 pupil would be spent with better results; a third of government bureaucracy would be completely unnecessary, the Departments of Education, Dept. of HUD, FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC, would no longer have relevance; welfare of all kinds would drop by half; we would need fewer police and fire fighters, and security in general.

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