Whites In Latin America

Updated June 25, 2014. This article is 64 pages long, so be warned. I’ve been reading a lot about this issue because I find it fascinating. Of course the media is going to feed you a lot of crap, nonsense and lies about this situation, so where do we go to really learn about it? Maybe I should ask some Latin Americans? That isn’t going to work. Most of the Latin Americans I have met are from the middle and upper classes, and almost all of them insist that there is no racism in their particular country. That sounds dubious! So, where shall we go to get the straight-up ugly truth? No better place than Stormfront, the home of Nazi White nationalist maniacs! True, they are not very nice people, but I figured that if there were any Latin Americans on there, they would definitely tell it like it is. Indeed there is a Latin American forum on Stormfront, and it is populated by lots of Latin American Whites. I learned a lot there, reading probably over 1,200 pages over a few days, but I’m not going to link to any of the comments because why link to Stormfront? The truth will be very depressing to White nationalists, and it surely destroys some of their cherished myths. One of them is that racial separatism is possible. Apparently it is not. Another is that as a White population shrinks, separatism becomes more of an urgent reality for a larger number of Whites. The truth, as we see in Latin America, is quite the opposite. As the White population shrinks down below 5 First of all, many or probably most White nationalist types in the US are Nordicist idiots who think that Latin American Whites are not “pure Whites.” Regardless of the truth of this, Latin American Whites have a more lax view of Whiteness. To them, if you have White ancestry, and if you look White and you act White, you are White. This strikes me as very reasonable. During colonial times, children of a criollo (pure Spaniard, or White) and a castizo (1/4 Indian, 3/4 White) was considered to be criollo, or White. This person would have been 1 The Latin American system classes all European Meds as White: Portuguese, Spaniards, Italians, Romanians, Greeks and Yugoslavs. Also, White Arabs, especially Lebanese and Syrian Christians, are also considered White. Latin American Whites also consider Armenians and Georgians to be White.

Penelope Cruz is a classic Med beauty, and she's in completely White. Cruz is born in Spain. This is pretty much a class White Latin American phenotype.
Penelope Cruz is a classic Med beauty, and she’s completely White. Cruz is born in Spain. This is pretty much an upper class White Latin American phenotype.
How many Whites are there in Latin America? That’s a very interesting question. Many figures are tossed about. I figure the best figure is around 170 million+ Whites in Latin America. What was interesting on the forum is the way that they described Latin American Whites. According to them, the average White down there is very, very racist in US terms. In Argentina, the general belief is that they are White and not a part of the rest of Latin America as a result, and there is open contempt, at least in private, for mestizos and mulattos*, not to mention Indians. The general belief, contrary to the US, is that dark = ugly. Indians are ugly, Whites are beautiful. Latin American Whites do not necessarily despise mestizos, though some certainly do, and this feeling is more pronounced in some countries than in others. In many cases, Whites do not dislike mestizos of the same social class. However, the contempt for Indians is a hallmark of the mindset of Latin American Whites pretty much across the board. In the US, the feeling is quite the opposite. Indians are not regarded as ugly, and Indian women have long been fetishized by White men as sex objects. Indian men are not seen as ugly either. We pretty much like Indians here in the US. Similarly, Whiteness is highly prized all over Latin America in both Whites and non-Whites, whereas in the US, many Hispanics, typically Chicanos, get angry if you suggest that they are White or part-White. This is seen as an insult to them. In Latin America, Indians are widely despised by Whites, there is no way of getting around that obvious fact, and no amount of denial and lying will make it go away. Let us look at Mexico. It is a common Mexican lie that there is no racism in Mexico. This lie is usually perpetrated by mestizos and Whites. I doubt many Indians would tell you that. Among the Mexican upper class, with the males at least, there is once again a belief that Indian women are ugly. Nevertheless, Mexican politics means that most Mexican Whites say they are mestizos, deny their Whiteness, and hate the US. These are traditions of Mexican society. Mexico decided a while back to deal with the race issue by formulating a lie that said that every Mexican was a mestizo, and that’s that. That lie is called mestizaje, and it is said to be the essence of Mexicanness. There is another lie about Mexican society, this one about Blacks. A friend went on a tour of Mexico and was informed that the large Black population had simply disappeared. The truth is that they were “bred out.” They were bred into the population so heavily that the average mestizo now is Denial of Whiteness goes along with mestizaje . Hatred of the US (the gringos), is part of Mexican culture for a long time now. These same Mexicans, who deny their Whiteness, insist they are mestizos and hate the gringos, the men anyway will have nothing to do with a woman that is pure Indian or maybe mostly Indian. On the other hand, they date, sleep with and gladly breed with mestizos, especially the lighter ones. They will often deny this by saying that the mestiza is White like they are, or not like the household help, or whatever. These same Mexican Whites are also very happy to have mestizos and Indians moving into the Whiter parts of Mexico, as this means more low wage labor and more customers to buy their stuff. White consciousness in Mexico is essentially about zero. The same White Mexicans who will insist that they are mestizos and not White will get angry if you call them indio. Indio is a big insult to any White Mexican. Nevertheless, there is little overt racism in Mexico between mestizos and Whites, perhaps due to the homogenizing effect of mestizaje. However, there is some discrimination in employment to the extent that lighter skin makes it easier to get a good job than darker skin. Light skin, eyes and hair are valued traits, but they are not necessary to get along in society. However, there is considerable racism against Indians. In addition, most White and mestizo Mexicans have a deep and abiding hatred for Blacks, whom they call pinche mayates (fucking niggers). In recent years, the number of White Mexicans marrying mestizos has been very high. In Mexico,  mestizos often want to marry White according to the tradition of mejorando la raza, literally, “improving the race.” Mestizo men are said to have an extreme fetish for blonde White women. It is true that if you watch Mexican TV, you might think Mexico is 9 The history of White Mexico is quite interesting. Forum posters say that Mexico was around 3 What’s happened since then is more and more breeding with mestizos and possibly even Indians, such that the percentage of White Mexicans is now about There are up to 10 million Whites in Mexico. Areas of Mexico that were 9 Historically and to this day, most of the Whites lived in the northeast, but they are also scattered throughout the country. Nuevo León in the northeast used to be overwhelmingly White until a vast migration of Indians and mestizos from the South swamped it. Afterward, very heavy mixing occurred, and Nuevo León is no longer a White state. Most of the Whites in Nuevo León live in the large city of San Pedro.
Monterrey, a large city in the economic powerhouse state of Nuevo Leon. Monterrey is a mostly non-White city now; Whites only live in a few sections.
Monterrey, a large city in the economic powerhouse state of Nuevo Leon. Monterrey is a mostly non-White city now; Whites only live in a few sections.
But there are still small towns in the mountains of Nuevo León which are, bizarrely enough, all-White towns. Many people in these towns have blond hair and blue eyes. The original plan for Nuevo León was to create a separate Spanish colony, separate from New Spain, but it never came to fruition. This state is prosperous and plays a very important role in the Mexican economy.
A player for the Mexican team Los Tigres. Although very dark skinned, he would probably be considered a Mestizo in Mexican society due to the concept of social race. If you are heavily Indian but don't speak an Indian language or live an Indian lifestyle, you are automatically mestizo.
A player for the Mexican team Los Tigres. Although a very dark skinned Indian, he would probably be considered a Mestizo in Mexican society due to the concept of social race. If you are heavily Indian but don’t speak an Indian language or live an Indian lifestyle, you are automatically mestizo.
According to posters, along with the claim that Mexico was 4 With Mexican-Americans, things are a bit different. I have seen very White Hispanics who act angry if you tell them they look White. Many of them do not even realize that Hispanics are mixed with White and Indian. The levels of White-hatred among US Hispanics seems to be quite high, probably as a result of US culture. Within the Chicano community, some Whiter Chicanos complain of a lot of mistreatment, often due to envy. Costa Rica is a very interesting case, and the Nevertheless, this population had become much less White during colonization, since the Spaniards brought few women with them. Most male Indians were either killed or exported to Peru. Hence, the colonists bred with Indian women. This continued all through the 1500’s and 1600’s. Later on there was an input of Black slaves from Jamaica. By independence, these people were about 5 The Central Valley region, where Whites initially settled, is still as White as Rio Grande do Sul in Brazil and Antioquia in Colombia, two heavily-White enclaves in Latin America. This region may be 9 After independence, the government had a policy of importing White workers from Europe, and this continued until about 1950 or so. This resulted in mass breeding with the original Costa Ricans, hence the original group became lighter over time. This is why Costa Rica traditionally has been such a White place. As late as 1960, Costa Rica was probably 9 However, in recent years, a large influx of mestizo illegal immigrants from Nicaragua, Colombia and other places has come into the country. There are 4 million native Costa Ricans in the country, but there are also 1.5 million Nicaraguans and 1.3 million Colombians. 9 The Colombians are regarded as “the Jews of Costa Rica” in that, once they go into a business sector, they tend to quickly dominate it. Hence, Colombians are somewhat resented in Costa Rica.  Downtown San Jose now looks like Mexico City. Crime has risen along with the mass illegal immigration. In addition, on the Caribbean Coast, there are now many Jamaican Blacks, possibly also illegal immigrants. In coastal cities, people tend to be mixed-race. In the inland cities, most people are White. In recent decades, many mestizos have appeared among native Costa Ricans, as the Whites there are starting to breed in with mestizos. In some places, a majority of Whites are now married to mestizos. Nevertheless, the upper class is still overwhelmingly White, as this photo set of Costa Rican Presidents shows. And Costa Rica is still a mostly-White country. The population is 7 Costa Rican Whites are quite racist and openly dislike Indians and Blacks, in keeping with the Latin American standard. They have fewer problems with mestizos, unless the person is a heavily-Indian mestizo. A sort of Latin American version of PC nonsense along the lines of Mexico’s mestizaje has recently become de rigeour in Costa Rica. The notion is, “We are all White.” In addition, the usual anti-White nonsense history familiar to any American is now taught at all high schools. Most Whites are drinking the Nonsense Koolaid, and White consciousness is now very low. Honduras has the tiniest White population in Latin America; only At some point, this group become seriously inbred, and many of them migrated to the US in order to spread out and ameliorate their genetic issues. The situation of Cuban Whites is also very interesting. Cuba was an 7 Hence, at the time of the Revolution, 8 The rest included 1 There was little breeding between Whites and Blacks because Cuba was a very racist society, something the anti-Castro Cubans deny. Part of the reason for this was high White race consciousness in Cuban Whites. Another aspect was that breeding with Blacks would be like breeding with your former slaves, as many White Cubans were slaveholders. This was seen as insulting and degrading to Whites. After Castro, most of the Whites took off, and they keep on leaving. Cuba is now 3 Cuban Whites go back to Cuba now and say that their beautiful White homes are now inhabited by Blacks and mulattos, and this infuriates them. They insist that after Castro, they are going to go back and take over all their White property from the Blacks and mulattos. This is probably a fantasy. As you can see, there is a heavy racist element in the whole anti-Castro movement. Cuban-Americans were described as still very racist, and most want nothing to do with Blacks or mulattos at all. In South Florida, you will rarely if ever see a White Cuban-American woman with a Black man. It is just not done. Further, there is a lot of housing discrimination in Miami as racist Cuban Whites refuse to rent to mestizos or mulattos. The situation in the Dominican Republic was described as dire. Posters said that maybe 1
Problems with the classification: In the DR, Dominicans like this are considered to be White. These people are more accurately classed as light mulattos.
Problems with the classification: In the DR, Dominicans like this are considered to be White. These people are more accurately classed as light mulattos.
The DR has always been a much darker place than Cuba or Puerto Rico. Dominicans have long looked down on Haitians as Blacks, and most Dominicans will tell you they are mulattos no matter how much Black they have in them. In part, this is a way of distinguishing themselves from Haitians. Soon after the Haitian Revolution in 1804, Haitians invaded the Dominican Republic. The Haitians quickly turned this into a nonstop rape-athon of the Dominican women. Anyone who was lighter-skinned such as Whites and mulattos was quickly killed, and the Dominican Blacks were enslaved by the Haitians. That is why to this day, Dominicans hate Haitians so much, over 200 years later. Most remaining DR Whites are in the areas of Santo Domingo, the capital, and Cibao and Bani. These were tobacco-growing regions, and tobacco did not need huge armies of slaves to work on it. Hence, tobacco growers were often small landowners. The lack of slaves meant that there was much less interbreeding between Whites and Blacks. The situation in Puerto Rico was very confusing, although it seemed as if maybe the population is 6 Some White Puerto Ricans in the US are race-conscious. Even in the US, it is not common for a White Puerto Rican woman to date a Black man. However, in Puerto Rico, things are different. A number of non-Whites try to marry White in a mejorando la raza gambit. Kinky African hair is devalued as pelo malo or “bad hair.” Many Puerto Rican Whites are quite racist by US standards. Slurs and jokes about Blacks are commonplace. There was racial apartheid in Puerto Rico until 1898. Until that time, Blacks were not allowed to own businesses or be doctors, lawyers or engineers. Up until the 1960’s, banks would not hire Blacks, and Blacks were not allowed into some clubs. Since the 1960’s, salsa music has been promoted. Most Whites dislike this “African” music and want nothing to do with it, but it is extremely popular with Blacks and mulattos. Upper middle class areas are 9 There is a serious illegal immigration problem consisting of Blacks and darker mulattos from the Dominican Republic. White Puerto Ricans have a very dim view of the US Puerto Rican community, whom they generally describe as “trash.” They say most of them are Blacks and mulattos and act worse than the non-Whites on the island. White Puerto Ricans usually do not live in Puerto Rican enclaves in the US and instead tend to be spread out. Unbelievably, there is even a tiny number of Whites in Haiti of all places. Haiti is 9 The original Whites were massacred in 1804 during a rebellion led by a Black named Desallines. Almost all 25,000 of the White slaveholders and their families were killed in the uprising, which ended slavery in Haiti once and for all. Considering the Whites were slaveowners, as a revolutionary I support Desallines’ Rebellion, but they should not have killed minors or mentally disabled Whites. There was one case where they killed a screaming crazy White woman who was well-known to be mentally ill. Some of the Blacks wanted to save her, but the mob had their way. The rebellion also ended colonialism in Haiti. With 25,000 Frenchmen dead, France said goodbye and good luck to the colony. France has been furious at Haiti ever since. After the Whites were either killed or left in 1804, the place quickly fell apart, and the Blacks begged the Whites to return. Some Whites did return, but in 1805, a Black leader ordered all of the Whites to be tortured to death. It’s hard to believe, but one of the big vote-getters in one of the recent fake elections in Haiti was a White man named Charles Baker (photo). The rest of the Caribbean has very few Whites left, and those that remain, posters on the forum report, have very much of a siege mentality. Barbados ( There is also a group of very light-skinned mulattos in the Caribbean – especially in the Grenadines and St. Kitts – who see themselves as White or near-White. They refuse to marry Blacks and will only marry “high yellows”, “redbones” or “Portagees.” I assume that those are words for very light-skinned mulattos. Some even have White features like green eyes. In Barbados, the Grenadines and St. Kitts, there also remain small White communities who seldom intermarry. They only marry White out of tradition. Along with this is a refusal to date or even socialize with Blacks and mulattos. For this, they have long been accused of racism. The Bahamas has a St. Barts, unbelievably, is a 3 Martinique is Jamaica is only .0 The Cayman Islands still have quite a few Whites (1 All through the Caribbean, the White birth rate is low, about the same as in the US. The birth rate for the Blacks and mulattos is much higher. Although White communities are hanging on in the Caribbean, posters acknowledge that they are “culturally Africanized” to some degree due to living near Blacks for so many years. Colombia has a large White population estimated at around 2 Antioquia Province is one of the Whitest places in Latin America along with Southern Brazil and Costa Rica’s Central Valley. This region is 8 The capital of Antioquia is Medellin, and this is also a very White city, but recently many Blacks, mulattos and Indians have been moving to the city from other parts of Colombia, so it is not as White as it used to be. Manizales is another majority-White city. The Whites are mostly Spaniards, but curiously, in Barranquilla and Santander, there are many Germans. Colombia received a very large input of Black slaves. There is a lot of racism in employment here, and the dumb blonde gets the job over the competent Black with a degree. Everything here is all about appearances both genetic and personal – your height, weight, clothing – and above all else, social class. Other than that, some say that race relations are generally pretty good, keeping with the trend in the most heavily mixed Latin American countries such as Mexico, Venezuela and Brazil. However, others say that racism is still a very serious problem in Colombia. 30 years ago, it was not uncommon to see signs in Colombia saying saying, “House For Rent. No Blacks.” To this day, it is very common for Afro-Colombians to be turned away from upscale establishments on account of their color. Whites are about 2 There is a vast population of Blacks, mulattos and zambos. (Zambos are mixed Black-Indians) in the country, especially in certain areas. Venezuela also received a large number of Black slaves. Ecuador is a profoundly racist society, as you often see in South American countries where the White Similar to how it was in the Jim Crow South, non-Whites are not allowed to eat in White restaurants, or if they are, they must use a separate set of dishes. Whites often wash their faces and hands after dealing with a non-White, as if they had been dirtied. Official figures show that Ecuador is 6 The racial history of Ecuador is pretty nasty. Slavery lasted in various odd forms all the way until 1930, and de facto White rule was ongoing until the 1970’s. Non-Whites were not allowed to have any significant government or military posts until that time. In the 1970’s, a progressive regime allowed non-Whites into the officer corps. The nation is very racially stratified, and Whites, Blacks, mulattos, mestizos and Indians all pretty much marry their own. From 1809 to 1905, Chinese and Jews were banned from entering Ecuador, and there was something resembling an actual racial apartheid structure in place. In the early 1900’s, a progressive mestizo president came aboard and initiated a series of major changes. At the time, the White population was 3 In the 1920’s, a significant wave of German immigration came to the country. Presently, Germans make up the largest One would think that there would be hardly any Whites in a country like Peru, yet 1 This gives us 3.5 million Whites in Peru. The rest of the population is 4 Peru is an incredibly racist society, and Lima is regarded as the most racist city in Latin America. If a mestizo or Indian stops a White on the street of Lima and asks directions, the White will usually refuse to speak to them. The Whites there have the attitude, “We don’t even talk to these people”, who they refer to as cholos. Even mestizos experience a lot of racial discrimination, and this experience was one of the reasons so many young Peruvian mestizos became cadres in Sendero Luminoso. My perception is that the average Peruvian mestizo has a lot of Indian blood, possibly even mostly or pure Indian. Social race is rampant here, and if you take off your Indian clothes, move out of the village to a big city and quit speaking Quechua, you can automagically transform yourself into a mestizo. Many light or upper class mestizos identify as White and desperately want to be White, and many are admitted into White social circles. A lot of these people have high levels of cognitive dissonance. You may hear an obviously mestizo upper middle class mestizo point to a lower class mestizo as dark as they are and curse the “cholo de mierda” (shitty cholo). Posters said that the rest of the mestizos who are not trying to identify as Whites really hate Whites and don’t try to hide it at all. Race relations in Peru appear to be catastrophic. Although official figures put the number of Whites in Bolivia at 1 The Indians were said to have a grudge against the Whites going back centuries to the Conquest. Posters said that the Indians consider the whole country theirs, hate everyone who is not Indian and want to throw all non-Whites out of the country. Whites have traditionally tried to marry only other Whites, but lately some young Whites are starting to date Indians and Blacks, much to the consternation of their more traditional relatives. Whites do not really hate mestizos, though out of tradition, they do not date or marry them. Furthermore, the mestizos often hate the Indians just as much as the Whites do. Posters described White Bolivians as living in fear. Expressions of White ethnocentrism invite attacks, robberies and even homicides, so Whites tend to keep their heads down. The feeling among Bolivian Whites is that they are losing their country. Many White Bolivians are taking off, often migrating to Southern Brazil. About 5 The official figures showing 5 The reason the government number is higher is because it relies in self-report, and many Brazilians who are light-skinned but not really White see themselves as White and identify as White. The rest are Blacks, mulattos, Indians, caboclos (mestizos) and zambos. Something like 4 Census figures say only about This means that Brazil has a Black and part-Black population of 3
A typical Brazilian mulatto. Although he is a player on the Argentine soccer team Boca Juniors, his parents were Brazilians.
A typical Brazilian mulatto. Although he is a player on the Argentine soccer team Boca Juniors, his parents were Brazilians.
About 1 A tiny . There are possibly 96 million Whites in Brazil, meaning that Brazil has one of the largest White populations in the world. The stunning truth is that Brazil has more Whites than most European countries. If Brazil’s Whites were a country, it would be one of the largest White countries on Earth. Southeastern Brazil is still very White, especially Rio Grande do Sul. The three southern states – Rio Grande do Sul, Paraná and Santa Catarina – are the Whitest ones; in addition, the state of São Paolo is still majority White, but it is much less White than the southern states. São Paolo used to be overwhelmingly White, but lately it has been flooded with non-Whites from the northeast and other areas. The city of São Paolo now is heavily non-White (7 A recent government survey found that the South is 8 In Rio Grande do Sul, Blacks and mulattos are concentrated in the southern part of the state near the Argentine border. In Parana, they live near the Paraguayan border.
The South of Brazil, an extremely White part of Latin America
The South of Brazil, an extremely White part of Latin America
The Whites are mostly Germans and Italians (7 French, Poles, Dutch, Ukrainians, Swedes, Belgians, Croatians, Lithuanians, Jews, Russians, Romanians, Lebanese and Syrians are a yet smaller sector. West of Curitiba there are 10 The White South has its roots in history. There were few Indians in this part of Brazil for some reason, so they were easily overrun and routed. The main industry of the South has always been cattle ranching, and there is no need to import Black slaves for that. Further, there were few of the plantations that characterized the North. This is also one of the wealthiest regions of the country. The An Argentine female sports team. How White can you get?
An Argentine female sports team. How White can you get?
The largest White group are Italians at 6 German and Irish Argentines mostly segregate themselves from those of Spanish and Italian descent, but many Argentines are some mixture of German, Spanish and Italian anyway. There is a certain amount of German supremacist Nordicism in the German community along with very high levels of support for Nazism.
Argentine soccer player Ortega. Spanish descent.
Argentine soccer player Ortega. Spanish descent with small Indian admixture.
Only about There was a large Black population in the 1800’s in Buenos Aires, but they seem to have vanished into thin air. Argentine legend says they fled the country due to persistent discrimination, but that seems a little dubious. They were probably just bred into the population, and the Argentine gene pool is now Since the 1990’s, there has been a huge illegal immigrant invasion of mestizos and Indians from Bolivia (by far the largest group), Peru, Paraguay and Chile. There are other immigrants coming in from Asia, mostly Korea but also some from China. Immigrants, almost all mestizos and Indians, are continuing to pour into Argentina at the rate of 200,000/yr. The government does nothing to stop it, and recently gave citizenship to millions of mestizos and Indians from Bolivia. The illegals from Bolivia and Peru are regarded by White Argentines as troublesome people who commit a lot of crime, engage in street protests and riots, and have no interest in assimilating. In addition, the heavily-Indian illegals from Peru and Bolivia have an extremely high birthrate in Argentina of 6+ children per woman. The girls start getting pregnant at age 14-15. On the other hand, White Argentine women are only having 1-2 kids at most. The posters were complaining about this and saying that the non-White immigration situation in Argentina was far worse than in the US and that in 20-30 years from now, White Argentina may be just a memory. Posters said that White Argentines were very racist at least in US terms. Most were said to be sympathetic to Nazism and fascism, and this is why so many Nazis fled to this area after World War 2. However, the fascist military dictatorship, which flaunted Nazi imagery, nostalgia and anti-Semitism, pretty much ruined things in terms of overt White consciousness in the country. To be strongly pro-White now is to be a Nazi or pro-dictatorship, and this is not acceptable in polite society since the dictatorship was so unpopular. There is also still an extremely high level of anti-Semitism in Argentina, at least as compared to the US. White Argentines complain privately about how Jews and non-Whites are wrecking the place, but have a “What can you do about it?” attitude. The mestizos of Argentina are very light, and at some point it gets really hard to tell who is a light mestizo and who is White. The mestizos identify as Whites and say they are White. The reason for this is that the huge immigration from Europe to Argentina lightened the Argentine mestizo population, similar to what occurred in Costa Rica. Also there has been a dramatic increase in White-mestizo breeding in the past few generations, something that was previously rare. In addition, a correlative to US hip-hop culture called cumbia villera has recently showed up. It is based on the culture of Argentina’s mestizo and Indian ghettos, and the topics and mindset of the music resemble rap – songs about killing people, selling dope, treating women like crap, etc. Most Argentine Whites are horrified by this trend, but a lot of young Whites are getting into because it’s “cool”, the same way a lot of young Whites are getting into Black rap music. Young Argentine Whites who are into villera music are also starting to date mestizos. As in the US, it’s White females going for the darker, thuggish types. There the young White women go for mestizo villera types, and here young White women go for Black rapper types. At the same time, there is an increasing trend among Argentine Whites to say that they have a little bit of Argentine Indian in them, sort of like the way many White Americans say that they have a little bit of Cherokee. This is seen as progressive, liberal and hip. I mentioned above that most Argentines are quite racist and are contemptuous, at least in private, of mestizos, Indians, mulattos and Blacks. It works the other way too. Argentines say that many Mexican, Caribbean and Colombian mestizos, mulattos and zambos really hate Argentines. Some hate Argentines and Chileans more than gringos. They call Argentines “Nazis” even though Argentines have never done anything to them. However, many of these same folks would love to get into Argentina. The situation in Chile is very confusing. It’s not really a White country. It’s more of a light-Mestizo country. 6 Mixing occurred early in Chile, as it really took a long time to defeat the Indians; they really put up a hard fight here. They were not totally defeated until the 1880’s or so, and after that, they were not exterminated, but their population was seriously reduced. There were not many White colonists in Chile, and the few who were there were often soldiers. Mass breeding occurred between White soldiers and Indian females. This constituted the basic stock of the nation. The initial White stock was mostly English and Spaniard. The Spaniards were mostly from Castille, Andalusia and the Basque region. Later, many immigrants arrived from Europe, and there are large German, Italian and Croatian colonies in the South. White Chileans are also Swiss, British (often Scots Irish) and French. Among the Germans, there is high support for Nazism. The lower classes tend to be a bit darker shade of mestizo (2 However, Chile is experiencing the same problem as Argentina, a mass invasion of darker mestizo illegal immigrants from Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador, mostly the first two, beginning in 2000. Further, many of the White Argentines who settled there after the recent crisis are going home. Along with the mass immigration of Peruvian and Bolivian Indians and mestizos has come a serious wave of street crime. The local Chilean Indians are not much of a problem. They live isolated in their own communities and leave other people alone. White Chileans will happily breed with mestizos and even Indians. Often it’s a White girl and a mestizo or Indian man. White consciousness is pretty low in Chile. Posters lament that the racial situation in Chile looks dire. Many posters commented that mestizos and Indians in Latin America really hate Whites. Although this is a typical White nationalist claim everywhere (that all non-Whites hate Whites), there may be something to it in Latin America. One said he had heard Indians and mestizos saying that they were going to take power all over Latin America and throw all the Whites back to Europe. All posters felt that Lula in Brazil, Chavez in Venezuela, Morales in Bolivia and Castro in Cuba were anti-White Leftist politicians. Lula was seen as anti-White for initiating affirmative action for non-Whites for the first time in Brazil. Chavez was accused of “ethnically cleansing” Whites from the country, but that seems like nonsense. What’s going on actually is that wealthier Whites are leaving Venezuela due to Chavez’ socialist policies. Morales was accused of wanting to take over all the Whites’ property and give it to Indians and mestizos. All over Latin America, the Indian, mestizo and anti-White cause was seen as being led by Communists for various reasons. Some of the reasons given were quite dubious. It’s probable that these Leftists are simply being driven to ameliorate the vastly inequitable situation in their countries. One poster noted that in spite of the profound racism, at least in his part of Latin America (apparently Peru), Indians and mestizos of both sexes were constantly trying to marry White or at least have babies by Whites. This went so far as males misleadingly impregnating White women, females misleadingly allowing themselves to be impregnated by White men, ingratiating themselves to and flattering Whites, etc. The poster said they want to marry White to “wash themselves.” I find it dubious that mestizos and Indians have that much self-hatred, but it’s possible. All of his aunts and uncles married mestizos, and none of the marriages turned out well. He described Indians and mestizos as aggressive, abusive (usually verbally but sometimes physically), and unable to control their emotions well. None of the mixed race offspring of his relatives did well in school. All of his White relatives now have mixed feelings about their part-White kids, and to some extent, they are ashamed of their offspring due to their mixed blood, poor grades and mestizo values. While most posters lamented the historical fact that the original White settlers to Latin America had bred in heavily with Indians and to some extent Blacks, others attempted to rationalize it. As one put it, it was either Indian and Black women or homosexuality/bestiality. Some posters attempted to explain why White men had bred in so heavily with Indian women. One described it as a natural match. Indians being racially Mongoloid or Asian, Indian women are similar to Asian women. Indian women, similar to Asian women, were described as very submissive, and White men liked this quantity very much. The poster noted that in the US you see many White male/Asian female couples for the same reason. A Caucasian male and a Mongoloid female appears to be a natural mix. Each party gets what they want out of the relationship. Another poster said that many White males continue to breed with Indians, Blacks, mulattas and mestizas because these women are not laboring under the same sexually repressive strictures that White women in the region are. The life of a moneyed White woman in the region is somewhat restricted sexually, as she feels bound by the Madonna/whore dichotomy characteristic of Hispanic culture. However, in the White women in poorer classes and with non-White women are much freer sexually. As one poster put it, “Indian and Black women spread their legs very easily, and many White men are tempted by this.” All posters felt that the future for Whites in Latin America was hopeless. Continued immigration of non-Whites, high birth rates of non-Whites combined with low birth rates of Whites, along with continuing and accelerating intermarriage of Whites with non-Whites, meant a slow darkening of the White population and its eventual diminishment to low numbers. Various proposals were suggested to “take back our countries,” but all were rejected as hopeless. One suggestion was mass emigration to Uruguay, seen as one of the last holdouts for Whites in Latin America. This was rejected as impractical, mainly due to the small size of the country. A while back, there was a “move to Argentina” movement, but that didn’t seem to catch on either since most White Latin Americans love their home countries and don’t want to leave. Another problem was that Argentina’s economy was very bad. There were many threads about leaving Latin America and moving to Whiter places, especially Europe. Some radicals offered militant proposals. One was to declare a White nationalist state in Southern Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay, separate from Brazil, and presumably evict all the non-Whites.
A version of the White State that some Latin American White nationalists envision. It's surely unworkable for a variety of reasons.
A version of the White State that some Latin American White nationalists envision. It’s surely unworkable for a variety of reasons.
From that base, the new state would expand across the rest of Brazil, pushing the Blacks and mulattos into Northeastern Brazil. Then the Blacks would be shipped to Central Africa and the mulattos would be shipped to Angola. This proposal seems unlikely to come to fruition. The White State in the Southern Cone, expansionist or not, is a pipe dream for other reasons. Part of the problem is that Brazilians and Argentines, even the Whites, hate each other. I’m not sure what it’s all about, maybe soccer. Also they speak two different languages and have very different cultures. Further, even White Brazilians are very nationalistic and would probably never want to leave Brazil. A union of Uruguay and Argentina would actually be possible due to deep cultural connections between the two, but it would not be good for the White state, since Uruguay is PC Central in Latin America. It would be like annexing a gigantic Spanish-speaking Massachusetts. I saw in these threads the future of the US. America will become much more mixed and Spanish-speaking. The history of the continent is one of the marriage of the two great races, the White and the Indian, and the language of the marriage was Iberian. We missed out on it here, since so many Indians died, White immigration was so huge, and most colonists were from Britain. Also, White colonists here brought women along. Soon the US will become just another Latin American country, that is, we will finally become part of the continent of the Americas. In other words, the unusual and continentally anomalous experiment of “America” will slowly end, and we will finally join the Americas. *Although the word mulatto is offensive to Blacks and mixed race people, I am going to use this word because that is the way that Black-White mixed race folks are referred to in Latin America. Further, “mixed race” is a seriously idiotic way to describe Black-White mixes. If you think this website is valuable to you, please consider a contribution to support the continuation of the site.

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  1. Why is it that ”white” americas they always point at south america when they talk about race mixture ? What about the history of Hidden Miscenegation in that ”white america” of yours ? We all know that the first protestant pionners used to bring their whole family with them, they already had in mind to form white colonies in there, but those pionners they are not the 300 millions something in the states today. ”White americans” they do not want to aknowledge the MILLIONS of MIXED race americans they got there. During the times of colonization and even today race mixing is an ongoing thing in USA . From the slave owners raping or cohabitating with their black slaves, to the mixing with the native indians ( apparently cherokees were more appealing to the whites for mixing) and these was happening over the centuries in usa, to the point that those mixed people start to look white and they could pass as whites and they were able to marry white people and their children were white to the point that they were considered ”whites” And what about the millions of ”white american men” that after the war finnished they married japanese ,corean, and philipino women and in vietnam the millions of ”amerasian” children fathered by american soldiers, and in the american islands hawaii, honolulu etc, most of the natives are a mixture with ”white americans” The reason why in south america those ”mestizos” still look more indian than european is because the mixture with the indians (it was not as wide spread as ”white americans” write) was only at the beggining of the conquest but when the european women start to arrive europen men prefer europen women. What happen later was that those ”mixed” indians they start to mixed with the pure indians and like that they spread the little europen blood they had on them. In many south american countries there are more pure indians than you can see in the states or canada – the reason – because europeans they stopped mixing with the indians long time ago. But in the states they been doing that since colonial times. And because those ”african and indian mixture” they keep mixing with whites they start to look white, just have a look at the endless list of famous people in america that they are either african or indian mixture for example: president Einsenhower , FBI Hoover, Humpry Bogart and many many more I have not enough room for the millions of ”white americans phenotypes” that they do not want to claim they are a ”mixture” and here in australia there are thousands of ”white blonde blue eyes aboriginals” mixtures and they don’t count themselves as ”whites” they proudly tell to the world we are aborigines.”White americans they suffer with a superiority and inferiority complex at the same time and for them is more easy to take it with their poor neighbours than to look at themselves.

  2. Hi there.
    I’ve noticed that you’ve referred to Christians of Lebanese and Syrian origin as “Christian Arabs.” They may speak Arabic, but they are not Arabs in origin. Syrians and Lebanese today are the descendants of Greeks and Romans that were invaded by the Arabs during the 7th cenury, and the Arabs forced the Greeks and Romans in the Levant region to speak Arabic and forced them to identify as Arabs. Syrian Christians and Lebanese Christians today are nothing more than Arabic-speaking Europeans and non-Arabs.

    1. So, most Arabic speaking people are originally from the Arabian peninsula, but they still identify as staunch Arab nationalists, Christians included.

      1. But the thing is that most of the Arabic-speaking Christians in Syria and Lebanon do not originate from the Arabian peninsula. Prior to the 7th century Arab invasion, the people in Syria (and Lebanon) were either Byzantine Greeks, or ethnic Aramaens. Arabs invaded us, and forced their culture upon us, and forced us to speak the Arabic language. When Arabs first invaded the Levant, they would cut off a person’s tongue if he or she refused to speak Arabic, which is why most Arabic-speaking Christians speak Arabic today (being that the Arabic-speaking Christians are the descendants of the non-Arabic speakers who were forced to speak Arabic). Being a so-called Arab nationalist doesn’t mean a thing. Some Arabic-speaking Christians think they are Arabs simply because they have been brainwashed all these centuries since the Arab invasion to believe that they descend from pre-Islamic Arab tribes, due to influence from false and ridiculous propaganda. Saying that the Arabic-speaking Christians descend from pre-Islamic Arabs could not be more false. Some Church leaders, sadly, say that they are Arabs only for political reasons, out of ignorance, or simply just out of fear. We must end the misconception that the Christians in Syria and Lebanon are Arabs, because they are not!

  3. I met a man who had a Lebanese mother, a Greek father, and an Italian last name and lily white skin and he was one of the most fervent Arab nationalists I have ever met. He was complaining that he was a victim of anti arab racism. I told him that while I could understand that he did not want to keep his arab identity under wraps, the average person on the street did not need to know he was half Lebanese. I deduced that people only knew he was half Lebanese because he made sure to tell them. He rubbed it up people’s asses.

    1. But the thing is that most of the Arabic-speaking Christians in Syria and Lebanon do not originate from the Arabian peninsula. Prior to the 7th century Arab invasion, the people in Syria (and Lebanon) were either Byzantine Greeks, or ethnic Aramaens. Arabs invaded us, and forced their culture upon us, and forced us to speak the Arabic language. When Arabs first invaded the Levant, they would cut off a person’s tongue if he or she refused to speak Arabic, which is why most Arabic-speaking Christians speak Arabic today (being that the Arabic-speaking Christians are the descendants of the non-Arabic speakers who were forced to speak Arabic). Being a so-called Arab nationalist doesn’t mean a thing. Some Arabic-speaking Christians think they are Arabs simply because they have been brainwashed all these centuries since the Arab invasion to believe that they descend from pre-Islamic Arab tribes, due to influence from false and ridiculous propaganda. Saying that the Arabic-speaking Christians descend from pre-Islamic Arabs could not be more false. Some Church leaders, sadly, say that they are Arabs only for political reasons, out of ignorance, or simply just out of fear. We must end the misconception that the Christians in Syria and Lebanon are Arabs, because they are not!

  4. Great posting! One thing though, Peru is like two countries with the mountainous region begin completely indigenous. On the coast, I noticed a LARGE proportion of the mestizos there are part black, but nobody acknowledges it. Going by the one drop rule, I would say the African admixture is higher than the stats reveal. That’s the problem with self reporting.
    Off the coast of Nicaragua, the Miskito believe themselves to be full indigenous, yet they are Zambos; while in Matagalpa, the peasants consider themselves mestizo, but they are genetically FULLY indigenous. What a bizarre world we live in.
    I used to teach in NYC in a mostly Dominican and Puerto Rican neighborhood, and all of the kids considered themselves “Spanish.” Maybe one kid looked Spanish, but his father was obviously mestizo. The rest were mulattos for the most part. They were even more shocked when they figured out where Spain was on the map..

    1. Mike, that’s a pretty interesting comment there. As a Hispanic, I’d have to agree 100% with what you’re saying. In Latin America, the bulk of the population (which happens to be mixed) tends to diminish some ancestries while emphasizing others. Obviously, the one that most will acknowledge is the White one, a.k.a Spanish European ancestry. This is so because it is socially advantageous to consider oneself White. Concerning what you said about the Dominican and Puerto Rican kids, it pretty much goes in line with the racial census conducted in both countries. As far as I know, in Puerto Rico, 80% of its inhabitants self-reported themselves as “White”. Although, the reality is that most “White” Puerto Ricans are in fact, light-skinned mulattos.
      The situation gets even more complicated when U.S. born Puerto Ricans come into contact with other Hispanic ethnicities. For example, I’ve heard that Puerto Ricans in the East Coast tend to discriminate the Indigenous Mexicans and Central Americans, especially the undocumented ones. Nevertheless, if those same Puerto Ricans move to the Southwest, they’re usually shocked when they encounter Mexicans/Mexican-Americans/Chicanos with a predominant Euro Mediterranean appearance. Even South Americans can be just as surprised. Being of Mexican origin myself, every time I would meet/date Venezuelan or Colombian women I usually got the “You don’t look Mexican” comment. I found it super interesting that they thought all Mexicans looked like “Indians”. Of course, little did they know that Mexicans from the Southern regions of their country tend to be predominantly Indigenous, while those from the Northern regions (like myself) tend be predominantly European.
      Unlike Caribbean Hispanics, we Mexicans never identify as “Spanish”…no matter how White we are. More than likely, we always identify as Mexican, first and foremost. Even in Mexico, to identify as “Spanish” is not very well received. White Mexicans might make a reference to their ancestry being Spanish, but their national identity will always take precedence. It’s kind of similar as to how White Americans acknowledge their English, Irish, German, French, or Dutch ancestries, but they always remain American in their identity.

  5. Article portays Latin Ameica’s demographic evolution with too many details. most of them are in accodance with past, present, and future. But I found some flaws, for instance Bazil’s southen state Rio Grande do Sul information is not correct. It was indeed population by Ameriindians with Blacks as majority, and gradually they are replaced by whites in the span of 150 yrs.
    In long run, I expect no blacks ll be left and Latin America will have predominant(~90%) very-light skinned mestizos along with considerable pure whites(~5%) & mulattos(~5%)

  6. So far my favorite article on the site. Seems well put together.
    Two things however:
    I think more should be said about the large Arab communities that immigrated during the late 19th century (Carlos Slim). I don’t know how ‘Latinos’ view them in comparison to whites.
    And a small error on the capital of Dominican Republic, its Santo Domingo, not Santiago.

  7. Your assessment on the situation in Ecuador is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read in my life. The entirety of the section discussing my country had claims that got more outrageous the further you went. From the stupid comparison to the Jim Crow south which is simply hilarious to the claim that 30% of Ecuador was once white to the claim that most Ecuadorian whites are German and Nazi which are all patently false. It would be a pretty hilarious read if it weren’t for the fact that you’re being serious.
    I guess I really shouldn’t have expected more from someone who gets their information from Stormfront.

  8. Your claims about the racial composition of Puerto Rico and Cuba are absurd: Most Cuban whites did not leave nor are leaving the country, and most Puerto Ricans are white-mestizos, not mulattos, as genetic studies amply prove.

  9. I’m late by years but you got it wrong about Brazil. About more than half of Brazilians have some Portuguese ancestry, including all of the Blacks by every genetic study published about Brazilians, São Paulo have 70% whites in the city (the whites here are largely from Italian and Portuguese heritage) and the number is higher on the Interior of the state (where there are entire cities founded by people who came from the same region of Italy). I’m not white and I can’t care less about ethnicity, this is generally the attitude of Brazilians as well even in the South, although there’s a veiled racism here that as in the case of various Latin American countries people will say there’s none.
    Although sequencing studies are expensive and it was not done on the people from all the country, Brazilians, even Black Brazilians, have on average more European genes than genes from other continents (including Africa and from indigenous Americans), off course this was done on a very small sample of the population but one study to confirm this was done in Rio, a city that received a large number of migrants from the entire country (and from Portugal). I think it’s safe to assume that this is the case for almost everyone in Brazil that is not the scion from very recent migration (it’s the case of some Germans, Italians and Japanese, although they are also mixing more in each new generation).
    This come from the fact that the Portuguese generally constructed a less racial society than the British and the Spaniards, both had colonies in which there were less mixing, in the case of Portugal people where generally more well served if they had ties to Lisbon than be white, and it was not uncommon to free people who had African or Indian ancestry to marry a white Portuguese from the same social class they were. Every other Portuguese colony had similar mixed populations, from Goa, to Timor-Leste to Cape Verde (where they form a majority). This is also the case in Brazil, it’s more important who you know than your ethnic background. If everyone you know is poor then bad for you.
    There’s also a large Japanese community here in São Paulo (probably the largest outside Japan). There’s also a growing Chinese and Bolivian ones as well, although they are really small by now.
    Anyway the State of São Paulo have more people than Argentina for example and is responsible for 1/3 of the Brazilian GDP, if anyone really is paying for the rest to the Federal government it’s my state and not the ones on the South.
    I’m partly Portuguese, my paternal grandparent was from Porto, partly Black, my paternal grandmother was very dark skinned, partly Jewish, my maternal grandparent was born in Vilna, then in a city in Poland and my grandmother was a descendant from Amazonian Jews (search for it in Wikipedia) who came from Morocco, specifically in my case from a city called Taroudant and from Marrakesh, and mixed with the native population of Brazil (her parent wasn’t Jewish), although religiously she was an Jewish. My wife is Japanese, things go this way in Brazil.

  10. fuuuckin sluut my city is not the most racist in latin america and we all are mestizos, the racist are in argentina, sluuuut

  11. Puerto Rico is demographically dominated by mestizos not mulattoes. The only significant mulatto countries in the carribean & Latin America are Cuba (25% mulatto), Domincan Republic (75% mulatto) and Brazil (25% mulatto).
    In Brazil the black population only makes up less than 10% of the total population. You say if Brazilian blacks had a nation they would be the populated black country in the world, but they wouldn’t. Part-blacks and blacks are two totally different peoples so if you only count pure Brazilian blacks their overall population would be insignificant. Mulattoes aren’t black or white, we’re our own seperate race.

  12. Question to any Brazilians. In Brazil, would Barack Obama count as black? Or would he be considered something else?

    1. SR. The source that you have left is unreliable, that source reduces the prescence of the white population in countries where they are the majority and exaggerated increases in countries where they are a minority

  13. I think this is an interesting thing to add.
    I recently found an encyclopedia from 1927 in my house. They’re actually 10 volumes in total but I only have 7.
    In the book, on the Mexico section, after some racism and stereotyping, it says that pure whites are 20% of the Mexican population, and that censuses in Mexico aren’t accurate, because Mexicans woul usally lie about themselves to the census takers in fear of being taxed more and other things I can’t remember.
    This was only 6 years after Mexico was supposedly just “9% white”.
    Interestingly enough, it says Colombia, a country supposedly more white than Mexico, is only “10% pure whites(mostly Spaniards”.
    It also says Cuba is 74% white, which was really interesting.

  14. I will correct mistakes in percentages and countries that were not mentioned:
    Mexico= According to LIZCANO, 68% of mexicans are mestizo, 18% amerindian, 15% white and 1% others. Many regions of the northern in Mexico that are very Caucasians are also quite populated.
    Central America = Costa Rica is 80-85% white, but many (20-30%) are castizo (Mestizo & European).
    Guatemala was not mentioned in this article, but only 18% are caucasians, while 40% is amerindian and other 40% is mestizo.
    Nicaragua is not 99% mestizo. CIA World Factbook says 69% mestizo, 17% white, 9% black and 5% amerindian
    El Salvador and Honduras are mostly mestizo (more than Nicaragua); 90%. But El Salvador has more white population than Honduras (9% in the first country and 1% in the second)
    Panama is also a mestizo country (50-60%), but many people is Black/Mulatto/Zambo, almost 30-40%, nearly 10% are native americans, follow by asians 7% and 5% is white
    Belize is mostly black (descendants of slaves), also called “creole/criollo” 55%, and 30% is mestizo, approximately 8% is native american, 4% is german menonnite and other Europeoan, 2% is garifuna and 1% chinese
    Some Caribbean Countries = Puerto Rico is a white country, the census say 75%, buy I think that is 60-65%, but not less than 40%, I travel to Puerto Rico, and the beaches, in cities and densely populated neighborhoods there are many Caucasian people.
    Cuba is half white and 48% mulatto or black. But many white Cubans and obviously other races (mostly professionals), emigrate to other countries, mainly to the United States
    Colombia = 58% mestizo, 20% white, 16% black/mulatto, 3% other mixed race and 2% amerindian.
    Venezuela = 60% mestizo, 29% caucasian, 10% afro-venezuelan and 1% native.
    Ecuador = data correct, but other percentage of the population is montubio (black/european/amerindian/other mixed)
    Peru = data correct, and yes, 15% of peruvians is white, but 12% is pure and 3% castizo.
    Bolivia = like peru, is 15%.
    Brazil = the data of white population is now 48%, according to the last census.
    Paraguay = 95% mestizo, 3% white and 2% amerindian
    Chile = Some sources place mestizos and whites in the same percentage (93%). Chile is the country with the less white population in the southern cone, although beetwen 50-65% is white, many populated cities such as Santiago, La Serena, Vina del Mar, Valparaiso, etc. Most of the inhabitants are Caucasian
    Argentina = Argentina is ethnically a white country, but 97% is a percentage a bit exaggerated, is also an exaggeration to say that 80% of all white Argentine have at least a distant Amerindian origin, because since colonial times Argentina reduced its indigenous population to 1%, and after independence the country was not inhabited until the great European immigration
    Uruguay = Uruguay has the highest percentage of white people no Argentina, also in Uruguay, the white populations is more pure than any other country in the Western Hemisphere.

    1. Argentina was uninhabited from independence until European immigration? Wrong. Population was small compared to a century after, but the country was far from being uninhabited.
      Also is not true that during colonial times, indigenous population was reduced to 1% (that’s too little).
      And white/mostly white Argentines are like 80%, while the rest are Amerindian/mostly Amerindian, except for 1% that are black/mostly black and Mongoloid/mostly Mongoloid (with blacks being many more that Mongoloids, but also much more mixed with whites and Amerindians, while Mongoloids are much more “pure”).

  15. Penelope Cruz is mixed she is not a Spaniard.
    White Genocide is being forced on all of our countries. Dr. David Duke , Dailystormer.com

    1. “Penelope Cruz is mixed she is not a Spaniard”. Oh lord. Are any Southern Europeans, in your mind, NOT?

  16. Robert, you say the south of Brazil is 65% White, but it’s certainly more than that, the actual number is at least 75% and likely about 80% according to the way we count race, though if we used a system like the American one drop rule I believe it’s very unlikely the number of whites would higher than 20%, I actually read half of southern Whites are at least 10% black, but they’re all seen as White because they look White.
    The light skinned mixed woman you posted reminds me a lot of my grandmother and she said she was White and some of us agreed, the only people here who like the one drop model are those in the Black movement, they glorify the one drop model and they say all mulattoes are black, even when they look much more like a typical White person than a typical Black person, this is why many mulattoes are now identifying as black, even those who look overwhelmingly White.
    The one drop model is very alien to us and everybody but the Black movement thinks it is retarded and extremely primitive, I don’t know why the Black movement wants to make that archaic model the default, I think they do it because it’s the only way to artificially inflate the number of Blacks, as there aren’t that many of them.

  17. First of all, Daniel Ludueña is not Mexican, he’s Argentinean but playing for a Mexican Team

  18. https://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/tecos_tigres3.jpg?w=500
    This guy (Ludueña) is Argentine and his father also was a football player.
    In this picture (below), both are together.
    And, is irrelevant, but this player (below) is not Ortega, is called Luis González.
    Here another picture of him
    While this is Ariel Ortega.

  19. Question for Jorge:
    Why were less white women willing to go to South America from Spain or Portugal than White women were willing to travel to the U.S. from Germany, Britain or Ireland.
    Is it the cultural modesty of Spain and Portugal where women were more conservative and Anglo permissive societies did not care if their daughters and sisters rode a boat with 500 dudes to Maine or Michigan or what?
    Why did less white women from Spain or Italy immigrate than German or Swedish women to Minnesota for example.
    Clearly the reason that so few American Indians remain in North America is that whites did not need them for sex partners-terrible as this reality is.
    Are the genes of South Americans shaped by the fact that Spanish and Portuguese families did not want their daughters leaving home alone to strike out in the New World?
    I did read somewhere that the few Portuguese women who did go to Brazil were prostitutes swept up in street raids in Lisbon and the males were derelicts.

    We know that Indians survived in South and Central America because white males wanted sex partners or even wives whereas Brits simply blasted men, women and children alike in Maine or Ohio.
    But why did fewer women from Spain or Portugal ship out to Brazil or Mexico?
    Is it chastity? Cushing the Brit does not care if his daughter ships out to Maine but Arturo of Andalusia does?
    Historically, Spain and Portugal actually regarded Germany and England as brutish people so it is ironic that the descendants of rough Scots in New Mexico consider the great-great-grandson of a Spanish noblemen from Sinora to be a peasant or “third-worlder”.
    But…Why exactly did less women come from Spain or Portugal to the New World?

    1. Indigenous not only survived better in Central America and South America because Spaniards and Portuguese wanted sex partners, but also because they had the objective of dominate natives and force them to convert in their religion (Christianity) and speak their languages (Spanish and Portuguese). They wanted expand their kingdoms and culture to new peoples. Obviously, equally Amerindians and blacks were seen as inferior, but Spaniards and Portuguese did not had much problem in mix with them, at least comparing to British and Dutch (they wanted new lands but without their native peoples).

  21. Probably because in those times there were much more people migrating to North America that to South America. Also, South America was less white (with Amerindians seen as a threat), more remote and countries weren’t industrialized like United States, that was having a fast industrialization.
    Maybe for all this reasons, South America (well, especially Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Chile and, less, Brazil, and, the rest, much less) was a place for migration of lonely worker men and North America was, besides, for families or, maybe, young couples.
    But, at least in Argentina, although that were a minority, there was a relevant number of women among European immigrants, and most part weren’t prostitutes. And precisely was from Germany and Eastern Europe that arrived more families in percentage and, therefore, more women (comparing with immigrants from Spain and Italy, from where came mostly lonely men).

  22. Why, for example, are Colombian people so violent and Chile or Argentine people generally not involved in crime to such a great degree in Miami, for example.
    Is this because the white men who went to Colombia were violent criminals from Spain or because the tribes of Indians there were aggressive.

    1. I don’t think that ancestry have something to do with that. And probably only are some few but powerful Colombians, while the rest are quiet people from middle-class/upper-class.
      Why not Ecuadorians? Why not Venezuelans? I don’t know. Probably because Colombian traffickers are the most powerfull, and United States is a giant market for drugs and it is located relatively close.
      Like I said, working-class South Americans usually don’t migrate to first world countries because are far away. So, except for some powerful traffickers like those Colombians (that are rich by the way), there is some crime, but nothing compared with Mexicans and Central Americans, that are many more and most part from working-class, so there are many typical thugs, thieves, drug dealers, etc. from slums.

    Why do so many Argentinian people overseas have Italian surnames and features?
    Of all the groups of Argentine people you meet in North America, most will be of Italian ancestry.
    Not the extremely dark Sicilian type either. Brown-haired, generally.
    Do Italian people in Argentine have a reason to leave?
    The famous of Football player Maradonna is Italian and looks it, for example.

    1. Maradona is clearly mestizo (a bit more white than Amerindian).
      Most part of Argentines have some Italian ancestry, and, in middle-class, even more and in a higher percentage in each person. And almost all Argentines that migrated to other countries were from middle-class. Maybe that’s the answer.

  24. I’m bolivian, and white people here have been in charge since the republic was created. That changed when veo Morales became president, he made the racism even worst between Indians and whites. Before 1952, the Indians weren’t even aloud to enter La Paz, and Bolivia was controlled by a white hierarchy. One thing that I would like to appoint is that the Indians would be nothing without us, the white society. Because like it or not, we were the ones who were educated in schools, went to college, and were probably educated and trained to run a country. I mean, our Vice President is white, most of the people in the court and senate are white. Evo morales tries hard to integrate his Indians, but it doesn’t work out for him because unfortunately they are all ignorant. Evo morales appointed a fucking P.E. teacher of a public school to be the minister of real state and respect of land and ownership, what te fuck. Guess what, the pe teacher was a and Indian, because here, in Bolivia, that is the job of an Indian. Bus drivers, maids, Burger King employees, cleaners, or teachers, waiters, barbers, etc. those are the jobs of the Indian, because unfortunately, That’s all they are capable of doing.

  25. As a Brazilian, I can tell you the number of white people in Brazil is only half of the reported in the statistics (something between 20% – 25%of total population). Many mixed people say they are white only for having a more light skin (especially in the South region). I think the same thing occurs in Argentina, Uruguay, Porto Rico and other countries.
    Also, we have much indians in the country, but for some reason, they claim that are ‘pardo’. So, when you see the insignificant percentage of indian in Brazil’s data, don’t trust in that. They are most concentrated in the North region.
    Inside the ‘pardo’ category, you will find the most diverse admixture possible between indians, whites and blacks.
    I would say the real numbers in Brazil are: 43% mixed; 23% white; 18% black; 15% indian/native.

  26. Hello, I am from Argentina and recently read this.

    The part about Argentina is not completely right, while nevertheless is is still pretty accurate.

    1) Amerindians are ~20% of the population, although most are pretty mixed with a racial makeup typically 60% Amerindian to 40% non-Amerindian. That 40% is mostly White with possibly a bit of Black thrown in. But let us say that in Argentina, 13% of the non-White population are very mixed racially, while the other 7% are yet relatively pure at least in phenotype.

    2) There were some genocides during the Colonial Era and First Independent Era (the 19th century after 1816), but they were not against Amerindians per se, but instead they were against particular tribes. The main reason for the decline of the Amerindian population after the 17th century was racial mixing with Whites, especially after 1860 when massive immigration began, mainly from Europe and Middle East.

    The immigrants were Whites in both cases, since most native Middle Easterners also are White like most of the natives from North Africa, no matter that they are more tanned than most Europeans.

    Before then any decline was mainly due to new diseases carried by European invaders and much less due to wars against them. But everything changed when Whites surpassed Amerindians in number. By approximately 1870-1880, they became the most numerous racial group. Before that, Amerindians were the biggest group. At the Amerindians’ lowest point around 1920-1930, which also happened to be when the was also when the country was at its Whitest, Amerindians were ~10%+ of the population, and most were pretty mixed.

    Then their numbers increased with immigration from Bolivia and Peru, from which the vast majority were Amerindian. To a lesser degree, the increase was from Paraguay and Chile, from which many of the immigrants were Amerindians but also included many mixed Whites. This began since the early 20th century but increased a lot in the second half of the century, and coincided with the end of large-scale immigration from Europe and Middle East.

    3) I’m gratefully surprised with your comment on Blacks in Argentina. Yes, their population also declined mainly due to racial mixing with Whites and Amerindians. They were absorbed by both until they were a very small and racially-mixed minority. Starting in the 18th Century, they already mixed much more than the other two groups, and with the massive White immigration after 1860, they were already almost completely diluted by the early 20th century.

    Still, most people believe in the myth of a supposed “covert Black genocide”, but the truth is that racial mixing was the main reason for their diminution. Today, Blacks are ~1% of population and most part are very mixed racially. Some examples of Argentine Blacks are Fidel Nadal, La Mona Jiménez, Héctor Baley, and Clemente Rodríguez. If you search pictures of them on the Internet, you will note that they are pretty mixed, usually having fairly light skin and/or an ambiguous phenotype typical of people with a relatively small amount of Black ancestry.

    4) During 19th century, mass immigration of Whites was promoted precisely to make Whites majority and with the passing of time to cause non-Whites to be absorbed into the new White majority through racial mixing. Apart from that, another method of the “Whitening process” or “Blancamiento” was to make everyone believe than they were either White or some sort of White.

    This Blancamiento process actually started as early as the last years of the Colonial Period in the early 19th Century. As part of this policy, non-Whites were counted in both statistics and censuses as pseudo-racial categories like morochos (still used), pardos, and trigueños.

    These categories also included tanned Whites, some of whom were such due to their racial mixing but and others due to their natural racial nature. It included for instance some South Europeans and most Middle Easterners, both of whom were very common due to the “Mediterranean” nature of the immigration.

    So with the passage of time, most people began to think of themselves as part of those pseudo-racial categories above or at least a bit mixed with them, while on the other hand differentiating themselves from Amerindians or Blacks. The only Amerindians who identified as such were indigenous (a small minority).

    The majority of Argentines opted to classify themselves as simply “regular” Argentines (the majority), who were seen as “morochos.” By the same token the Blacks considered as such were the dark-skinned ones who were very much in the minority even among Blacks because most were already heavily-mixed by late 19th Century.

    By late 19th century, “race” was not even noted in censuses or statistics. By the time of the early 20th Century the educational system and media began a Blancamiento campaign designed to make everyone feel that they were primarily descended from Europeans or at most from Middle Easterners, and even those latter were only considered a small mixed minority. The campaign sought to position both Amerindians and Blacks as either rare isolated and small ethnicities or at worst out-and-out foreigners.

    At the same time what few relatively undiluted Amerindians and Blacks left were almost completely exterminated during colonization and the wars of the 19th century.

    5) Light-skinned Whites are ~60% of the population, with some having a relevant level of racial mixing which is usually not visible because it originated several generations in the past, so their non-White ancestry has been diluted in the phenotype. Then there are ~18% “tanned” Whites or “mestizos,” except that they are sometimes not mestizo. In most cases they derive from some sort of racial mixing, but some simply have a lot Middle Eastern ancestry.

    Mongoloids usually are little mixed but they are very few in number, ~.5% of the population, and for the most part are descendants of East Asian immigrants who arrived in the last few decades. So in total, people who are basically White (visibly mixed or not) are ~75-80% of the population, and the rest are primarily Amerindian who are much more mixed, except for the tiny minorities of Blacks who are very mixed and Mongoloids who are a little mixed.

      1. It’s just fine, my friend. You might want to stick around! I made massive changes in your English. It wasn’t usually wrong so much as there are better ways to say it. If you are interested in improving your English, look at the new version and see how it differs from yours.

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