Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist and Provocateur: No Sacred Cows. Smash All Taboos
Well, our Olive mentioned it. What’s happened to her? She was sort of cute, if obnoxious.
I dunno, she seems to have gone away for a bit. It’s ok though, traffic is going through the roof! Maybe too many anti-Semites around scared her off.
Arab anti-black racism is of a whole higher degree. It is almost difficult for this admitted Racialist to fathom some of their behaviors.
For example Arabs had just as many Slaves as the American South (note: Arab lands are not that far from Africa) but you will not see any negroes in Arab lands.. that is because Arab Slavers would CASTRATE all Black male slaves!!!
Guess those White guys in the South weren’t all that bad, eh.
Even today this racism is present and here is a recent example from anti-ZOG Freedom Fighters in Iraq:
“Black soldiers are a particular target. ‘To have Negroes occupying us is a particular humiliation,’ Abu Mujahed said, echoing the profound racism prevalent in much of the Middle East. ‘Sometimes we aborted a mission because there were no Negroes.'”
I hear that White guys in the South would kill you first and THEN castrate you.
Something about the gonads of black males is especially threatening to non-black males.
“…kill you first and THEN castrate you.” Myself, if I had to have both, that would be my preferred sequence.
I really doubt that the Arabs castrated ALL black slaves, and did they only castrate BLACK slaves? I’ve heard that few survived castration back in them thar days. I understood that castrati were guards in harems – I guess they lost a few for every success. I don’t think the Arabs practiced the old-world castration of boys to keep them looking young and beautiful – proto-ladyboys. The old Persians used to do that, and a few other cultures. And some societies had eunuchs as courtiers, like ancient China – supposedly they would not get ambitious to supplant the ruler because they couldn’t breed a successor. Not in Arab society though. Maybe in the Ottoman court – I’m not sure. I think the Ottomans castrated a lot of young men, but I’m not sure what for. Castrating slave labourers doesn’t really make a lot of economic sense anyway, or does it? I wonder if it was cheaper to keep buying new ones from abroad, rather than breed and raise them at home – I doubt it.
Yes, I suppose if you’re going to be killed and castrated, your preferred sequence is ideal.
But if you’ve already killed the poor guy, why on earth do you need to cut off his genitals?
One suspects that one of the primary reasons for Castration of slaves was so that they could not have family and then no family ties. Thus the slave would be even more subservient to the master since they didn’t have as many ties to ‘others’
More than that. To keep them from breeding with the local women. Arab males bred with Black slave females but did not allow Black slave males to breed with their Arab females.
That was done to those who guarded harems. Most slaves of African origin were not castrated.
Some what related: There were actual slave uprisings in the Arab world. Most people don’t know this.
Thx for that, G-man. I had no idea there were slave uprisings in the Arab World! Great stuff man.
Even though the Black slaves were not castrated, the Arabs somehow prevented them from having sex with Arab women.
“Even though the Black slaves were not castrated, the Arabs somehow prevented them from having sex with Arab women.”
I’m curious to know how this was acheived.
Comment from someone at another blog where this was posted:
This essay paints a picture that contains many apparently deliberate distortions and half-truths. First, Egyptians are an incredibly multi-racial society, a mixture of African, European, Asian so combined that it’s even difficult to predict what children will look like, and it’s common to find siblings of diverse “races”. The previous president, Anwar el-Sadat, for example, was very dark-skinned and his wife, Jihan, was very light-skinned, and neither of them were considered anything out of the ordinary. It wouldn’t have occurred to most Egyptians to make the kind of fuss Americans made over the color of Obama’s skin.
Also, Egypt’s university (especially Al-Azhar) is a major destination for students from all over Africa and the Arab world, many of whom end up marrying Egyptians and staying here to pursue careers, or going abroad with their Egyptian spouses.
Second, other than the personal anecdote she describes, which cannot be verified, the examples she gives do not exactly tell the whole story:
What else but racism on Dec. 30, 2005, allowed hundreds of riot policemen to storm through a makeshift camp in central Cairo to clear it of 2,500 Sudanese refugees, trampling or beating to death 28 people, among them women and children?
It’s true that life for Sudanese refugees in particular, is very hard. Unlike the millions of non-refugee Sudanese who have always lived and worked in Egypt and are well-integrated, most of the refugees were brought here by the UN as a consequence of the Sudanese civil war that ended in 2005. The vast majority, who come from south Sudan, speak no Arabic, have few or no job skills, arrived with nothing and frequently suffering from trauma. They never wanted to come here, but were persuaded to use Egypt as a transit point until the UN was able to get them transferred and settled in Canada, Europe, the U.S. or Australia.
Egypt is a poor, badly overcrowded country with very high unemployment, and the Egyptian government didn’t want to accept so many destitute refugees, but again, the UN convinced them that it was only temporary.
However, in December 2005, a peace treaty was signed between the Sudanese rebels in the south and the government of Sudan. Suddenly, the UN announced that the Sudanese refugees could go home, but that they would no longer be transferring them to Western countries. In other words, they were on their own.
For months, even years, tens of thousands of Sudanese refugees from the South had languished with no jobs, a tiny allowance that barely allowed them to survive, and no prospects for a future, other than the promised transfer by the UN.
In desperation, three thousand of them decided to set up a rudimentary camp made of plastic sheeting and tent-poles on a square in the center of downtown, in front of a famous mosque. They said that they would remain there until their demands were met, to be re-settled in a Western country.
There were no toilet or bathing facilities, and many of the people were sleeping out in the open. The government repeatedly tried to get them to leave, but they refused. The UN said they couldn’t do anything. Egyptians were bringing them food and clothes, but the camp was becoming a health hazard, not to mention that the sight of couples having sex, people defecating, and rowdy drunkenness were very offensive to people forced to pass in front of the camp.
Week after week, the situation was becoming unbearable. After a full three months of this, in December of 2005, the police were sent in with water-cannons and batons to dismantle the make-shift camp-site, and buses to transfer the refugees to built-up camps. The protesters refused to leave, and fought back with tent-poles and other makeshift weapons. It got very ugly. In the end, depending on who you ask, 12-27 Sudanese were killed and 74 policemen were wounded.
Yes, it was a horrible tragedy, but the way the author cynically uses it as a sound-bite to ‘prove’ her characterization of Egyptians as ‘racist’, is irresponsible and does little to enlighten the reader, either about the event, or about Egyptian society.
Her second example also tells only part of the story:
What else but racism lies behind the bloody statistics at the Egyptian border with Israel where, since 2007, Egyptian guards have killed at least 33 migrants, many from Sudan’s Darfur region, including a pregnant woman and a 7-year-old girl?
What she doesn’t mention is that in this, as in many other disgusting ways that equally victimize Egyptians and Palestinians, the Egyptian government was acting under pressure from Israel. Thousands of African refugees, usually being trafficked by organized criminals, are arrested each year trying to enter into Israel, mostly in search of jobs. The migrants she describes were shot by border police after they disregarded orders to stop, and were in the process of crossing into Israeli-controlled territory.
This can only be understood in the same framework as Egypt’s criminal complicity with Israel by preventing food and essential medicines from reaching the Palestinians in Gaza, for example. Or selling off Egypt’s precious natural gas to Israel at less than a third of its market price, while Egypt itself faces a looming fuel crisis. Criminal, yes. Corrupt, yes. Outrageously cowardly, yes. Racist? Not exactly.
That being said, I’ve seen about the same level of individual racism here, as in the other places I’ve lived, including Europe and North America, and just as much, if not more, tolerance of racial diversity. It’s hardly a “dirty secret” as the author so lewdly announces, or it wouldn’t be such a “secret”, would it?
On a personal note, the only complaint ever made by my politically-conscious African-American brother-in-law, who has visited Egypt many times, is that people insist on talking to him in Arabic. And refusing to believe him when he says he doesn’t understand.
Thanks Y. Adds some good context to the story.
Yes, great stuff, Y. Thanks. That sounds more realistic.
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