This just never ends.
Ukraine is considering filing genocide charges against Russia for the fake Holodomor that never happened in 1932. The Holodomor is a Ukrainian word for a man-made famine, the hallucinatory man-made famine of 1932 that was supposedly directed at the Ukrainian nation for their resistance to collectivization. But there was no Holodomor. It never happened. There was no man-made famine. There was a famine, but no Holodomor.
Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies.
There was a famine harvest in the USSR in 1932. Famine harvest means the crop failed. That’s what happened. Now, we can argue about why the crop failed, but the truth is that it failed. One of the reasons was a wheat rust epidemic that spread through the area all the way to Bulgaria.
The crop failed all over the country, and people starved all over, including 1 million in Siberia. The USSR took less grain from the Ukraine than they have ever taken before or since. The state faced a terrible choice of whether to feed the cities of the villages.
It’s true that there was more starvation in the Ukraine than in most other places, but that is because the crop failed worse there than anywhere else. Anyway, there was just as much starvation in the Lower Volga. The starving there were Russian peasants, and they had not been resisting collectivization. Do the Holodomor liars wish to say that the evil Communists deliberately starved Russian peasants in the Volga. What on Earth for?
Further, the Ukrainians killed 50% of the livestock in the USSR. This made the famine much worse because they lacked horses to work the fields. Also, the Ukrainians tried to starve the whole country by destroying the grain crop. They set it on fire and left it to rot in the fields. In addition, a lot was being diverted to the black market. This is why the state went in and grabbed the crop.
Most people died of disease, not starvation. They were weakened by lack of food. People started fleeing the famine zones, and it is true that after a while, the state tried to stop them from fleeing, because they needed people to stick around to harvest the grain crop the next year. If they would have let everyone flee the famine zones, there would have been no one around to harvest the crop in the next year. It was damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
The next year, the crop was good.
Figures of 7-10 million dead in the Ukraine alone are routinely tossed around by the Ukrainian liars. It was a terrible time to be a Soviet citizen. As noted, many people died, mostly of disease, not starvation, but they died nevertheless.
The 7 million figure was invented after World War 2 by Ukrainian nationalists, many of whom had fought with the Nazis and killed many Jews by participating in the Holocaust. The 7 million figure was invented by these people to be higher than the 6 million Jews killed by Hitler in the Holocaust. In other words, Stalin was worse than Hitler, and Hitler was right to go to war against Judeo-Bolshevism. Get it?
Also, the Ukrainian Nazis (Excuse me, Ukrainian nationalists!) to some extent wash their hands of their own evil. Ukrainian Nazis (Oh, I mean Ukrainian nationalists, why do I keep confusing them!) especially the exiles, are notorious for their rank anti-Semitism and pro-Nazi sentiment.
The correct figure may never be known, but 5.5 million may have died across the USSR of the famine and its effects. 1 million died in Siberia. There even many deaths in Moscow. I guess this is because evil Commies were trying to kill urban workers or something. Whatever. The death toll was very high in the Lower Volga. I don’t know how many died in the Ukraine. Possibly 3.5 million?
With the opening of the Soviet archives, tens of thousands of pages have been diligently sifted through. Nowhere, not even a footnote on a single page, is there any mention of any orders given for a man-made famine in the Ukraine. These were people who wrote everything down, crossed every i and dotted every t.
The Ukrainian liars and their buddies keep searching the documents for the evidence they can never find, and they keep coming up empty handed, even though they pull up fake evidence all the time and wave it around, assuming we are idiots. That’s because there’s nothing to find. The Holodomor never even happened. You can’t find evidence for an even that never occurred.
Compare to the Nazi archives, where huge piles of evidence documenting the Holocaust have been uncovered, despite the Nazis’ determined efforts to cover it up. One would think that if a deliberate famine was ordered in the Ukraine, evidence would be available in the archives.
It is true that there was a Civil War going on in the Ukraine at the time over collectivization. At one point, Ukrainians were carrying out up to 20 armed attacks a day. They raided collective farms, destroyed crops, killed livestock and killed collective farmers. They also raped a lot of women.
The counterinsurgency was ferocious and horrible, some would say downright evil. Millions of Ukrainians were deported to Siberia, and there were many executions. When it was all over, 390,000 Ukrainians were killed by the state. If you want to argue that’s a genocide, be my guest. But there was no artificial famine.
I’m really getting tired of writing about this, but the Ukrainian liars and their buddies the anti-Semite liars just won’t shut up about this. One man, Robert Conquest, probably did more than anyone else to popularize the Holodomor lie. Conquest now says that there was no Holodomor, no intentional famine. He still tries to blame the state for causing the famine by screwing up, but he admits there was no intention to starve people.
Here is a good source of material on the latest, most up to date scholarship on the fake Holodomor.
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I always thought it was at least 20 million.
People forget that one of the reasons Hitler wanted to drive east (lebensraum) was because the land was in fact empty. No one lived there they had all died!
Now all we need are Holodomor denial laws to complement those for the Holocaust (TM).
Famine in the the Grain Belt in America and Ukraine
Map of the Grain Belt America.
Map of the russian Grain Belt Ukraine
When a region is called Grain Basket it means that the region have a huge surplus of food and feed other parts of the country. Or explained easy, if you put a seed in the soil you can’t miss that it will grow. Of course there can be less good years and even a year of total crop failure.
When a region is a Grain Basket that means that there are plenty of food. lt means that even if it would be a total crop failure there would be plenty of food in that region. Pigs can go outside all year around. A pig can find some food even if it a bad winter and they can find it for free. Their snout can plow a field. Even during a crop failure year the farmer will always have som grain to feed the pig.
Chicken the same thing, they can always find something to eat and a little grain on top of that you got egg and chicken to eat.But above all the farmer will make sure that the cow get food. Most people like to think that cows are out in the field eating grass all day long in the summer and that in the winter they are in a cosy stable chewing hay all day long. The simple truth is that a cow can eat almost anything and give milk. Straw, newspaper, bark, chicken feathers … you name it and the cow can almost certain eat it and turn that stuff into milk.
lf the Grain Belt in America had a very bad crop failure do you think there would be a famine if the farmers was left to take care of their livestock? There would be no famine, as a matter of fact most people would be well feed. And so would the ukrainiens be to. There is O-N-L-Y one way that a famine would be possible in a grain belt and that is if the government fucks up the farmers in the grain belt.
There was a famine in Ukraine in the 30s and it was man made and it was the JEWS who controlled Sovjet lock, stock & barrel that made that famine. Period
”In the 1870s, a typical Nebraska farmer produced food enough each year for four; a hundred years later he fed nearly 60.”
What do you think a homesteader in the grain belt in America in the 30s would have done if the government, or the government wannabe had told the homesteader to give them his horse and livestock? He would shot the motherfucker, that’s what he would do. Do you know what a homesteader in America was? He was a Kulak, just the same as the homesteaders in Ukraina was in the 30s, and if they had have guns like the kulaks in America had, they would have shot the motherfuckers, jew or no jew all the fuck same shit.
Anyone with a brain over a village idiot now understands that there is no way in hell it was possible to have a famine in a grain belt – unless some fucked up the kulaks. What is a kulak? A small farmer with three cows. Those cows was their livelihood, the horse was the farmers joy and pride. To even suggest as Robert Lindsay does in this post that the farmers killed their own livestock and horses to fuck up the rest of Sovjet is totally fucking out of touch with the real world.
Communism is not thought out for the bright and educated, but to uneducated, no life experienced dimwits. Communism is for the self-imposed ”intellectual morons”. There was a famine and it was made by the JEWS. Period
Semi-literate moron! Why do you always spell Soviet with a j? Are you Swedjsh?? Or just an ijiot?
I think Soviet in German is Sovjet.
I thought he was a swede? He has the brain of a turnip LOL
“Soviet” in Swedish is “Sovjet.” Interference from his native Swedish.
I don’t understand heg. He lives in Sweden, speaks Swedish, and he posts from Sweden (I can read his IP). Yet he insists that he’s not Swedish. WTH man.
mao and stalin are not humans they are satans devils incarnates they did kill millions and millions of people die to their devilish maoism and communism china and soviet are better off after kickjing out communism thats the great leap forward,,,, not mao the monsters policy
Why don’t you go away, you rightwing piece of shit?
Yeah, yeah, feed your cow with wiki pages and it will produce milk. It may be a grain belt, but it’s not a miracle land
You simply can’t have a natural famine in a Grain Belt – it’s impossible! End of story Period
The judeo-bolshevik lie about “crop failur” is nothing but jewish bullshit lies stockpiled for stupid goyim consumption. When ever and in what ever communist country there is starvation it’s always because of “crop failure”. Either it have rained to much or it rained nothing.
The elite, in essence the jew never starved in any communist country no matter what. Communism is all about jews controlling the state, the jews don’t give a fuck about the (m)asses. Only totally stupid commi goyim think communism has anything to do with the well being of the (m)asses.
Communism is all about jews controlling the state, steal all the wealth, crush everything that remindes about the old country and breed a new generation of slaves of the jews. What the jews do is that they make goyim hate their past and throw our history out the window, hence the jews can breed a new generation of dumbed down slaves.
The PC-crap shit for brain is all about dumbing down the (m)asses.
Hi Hoff please listen to Frank Zappa’s Call Any Vegetable. It’s all about you…turnip top!
I kind of like Jack Hoff. He’s pretty funny for a Swede.
I think it’s time for a post on Frank Zappa…one of my American heroes…
Somebody don’t like evidence.
Someone named Jason posted “THE INCORRECT SIX MILLION” elsewhere. I’m re-posting it here because I’m still not convinced the Holdomor was a natural catastrophe exacerbated by the Ukranians who were then disciplined by Moscow after completely blowing their resistance to Soviet collectivization. Mark Tauber is, like, what? The Ward Churchill of West Virginia University.
THE ‘INCORRECT’ SIX MILLION
Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prizewinner and author of The Gulag Archipelago, in a speech in Washington in 1975 had this to say of the Soviet system which was deemed worthy of recognition as one of ‘our’ Allies fighting ‘for Democracy’ against the ‘Dictators’ in WW2:
“This was a system which, in time of peace, artificially created a famine causing SIX MILLION PERSONS to die in the Ukraine between 1932 and 1933. They died on the very threshold of Europe. And Europe didn’t even notice it. The world didn’t even notice it. SIX MILLION PERSONS!”
(Alexander Solzhenitsyn Speaks to the West (197 p 16)
Who were these people, and why was and is their fate unknown to the ordinary man in the street in western countries?
Franklin Roosevelt’s ally and associate Joseph Stalin was the supreme dictator of Russia for almost a quarter of a century, from 1929 until his death in 1953. Born as Iosif Djugashvili, he adopted the very indicative name ‘Stalin’, ‘man of steel’. He lived up to this name in every respect. Soviet Russia under Stalin was a despotic police state that relied on espionage and terror, with a profound gulf in manner of living between the rulers and the ruled.
Stalin’s first Five-Year Plan (1928-1932) sought to bring about the ‘collectivization of agriculture’ in accordance with the ‘abolition of property in land’ put forward in Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto. But back in 1861 Czar Alexander II had liberated 23 million serfs, four years before slavery was abolished in the United States. In the period before the Revolution, millions of these peasants had been enabled to get title to their own individual plots, boosting Russian agricultural productivity. These independent peasant farmers became known as kulaks. When Communism was imposed on Russia, the kulaks as private property owners now stood in the way of the idea of Communism. In 1929 Stalin called for ‘the liquidation of the kulaks’, and their small family farms, animals, implements and crops were declared to belong to the state. “(The Jews) Trotsky, Zinoviev and Kamenev had always argued that the peasant would never surrender enough food voluntarily, and must be coerced and, if need be, crushed” (*Paul Johnson A History of the Modern World (1983) p 26. The Red Army and the GPU secret police were used to implement the policy. All peasants who resisted were treated with violence. A very large number were killed or sent in cattle or freight trains to exile in remote areas in the frozen north or the desert steppes. Rather than give up their animals to the collective farms, many peasants killed and ate them. As a result, the number of farm animals in the Soviet Union was catastrophically reduced:
Sheep and goats
(*Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, p 39.
The peasants stopped farming on ground that suddenly, officially, no longer belonged to them. As a result, food production decreased drastically. After a while, the cities started running out of food. Orders were given for grain to be confiscated from the peasants, whether they had sufficient for themselves and their families or not. Those caught trying to reserve food for their families were ‘severely dealt with’. By the winter of 1932-3, virtually no food was left in the countryside. By early March 1933, ‘death on a mass scale really began’ (Robert Conquest, The Harvest of Sorrow (1986) p243). The main farming areas of Russia, in the regions of the Ukraine and North Caucasus, were utterly devastated. Millions of people were forced to eat anything that was available, mice, rats, birds, grass, nettles, bark and even cats and dogs, but even then did not survive. It was a time of great and terrible hunger, a catastrophic man-made famine.
The American journalist Eugene Lyons was sent to Russia in 1928 as chief correspondent for the United Press agency. Arriving as an enthusiastic communist, he was able to experience the Soviet experiment at first hand. He became extremely disillusioned. He described the famine in his book Assignment in Utopia (published in 1937) in the following terms:
“Hell broke loose in seventy thousand Russian villages.. A population as large as all of Switzerland’s or Denmark’s was stripped clean of all their belongings.. They were herded with bayonets at railroad stations, packed indiscriminately into cattle cars and freight cars and dumped weeks later in the lumber regions of the frozen North, the deserts of central Asia, wherever labor was needed, there to live or die..”. The number of people that died is unknown, but the famine alone is estimated conservatively to have been responsible for 6 million deaths, almost half of them children (*Conquest, p 303-4). Other millions died from the killings and sickness as a result of the deportations (*p 304-7). At the famous Yalta conference in 1945, Winston Churchill was able to question his friend and fellow ally Stalin about the process. Stalin said ‘ten million’ had been ‘dealt with’, but that it had been ‘absolutely necessary’. Churchill records that he ‘sustained the strong impression of millions of men and women being blotted out or displaced forever’ (*Churchill, The Second World War, vol. IV p44. However Churchill – thank God for Winston Churchill – had no further comment to make on the matter. Controlling the agenda is always so important!
Lyons, himself Jewish, credits the Jewish commissar Lazar Kaganovich with the major portion of responsibility for this major crime against humanity:
“Lazar Kaganovich… it was his mind that invented the Political Departments to lead collectivized agriculture, his iron hand that applied Bolshevik mercilessness.” (*Lyons, p 57. The Encyclopaedia Britannica says tersely, “(Kaganovich) was one of the small group of Stalin’s top advisors pushing for very high rates of collectivization after 1929.. Within the Politburo, Kaganovich and Molotov led the opposition to Kirov’s proposed concessions to the peasantry and to his attempts to relax the harshness of Stalin’s control.. (Kaganovich) opposed Krushchev’s de-Stalinization..”. Kaganovich died at the ripe old age of 98 in 1991 (Encl. Brit.), ethnically safe from pursuit by the Israeli secret service, the Simon Wiesenthal organization, the New York media-intelligentsia or other hunters of real or imagined war criminals or human rights violators.
The suffering caused by the great man-made famine was covered by some reports in newspapers in Britain, Europe and the United States. Books dating from before World War Two can still be found in second-hand bookshops which describe the ferocity… Arthur Koestler, Soviet Myth and Reality in The Yogi and the Commissar (1945) Muggeridge, Lyons, Chamberlin… Yet this episode has been completely, entirely, totally ignored by our guardians of history, morality and political correctness…
NO MEMORIAL EXISTS IN WASHINGTON DC
(obviously) to record the indescribable scale of human suffering which resulted, undoubtedly because such a high burden of responsibility for it lies with the Jew Kaganovitch, and because the victims were not Jewish. No chance exists for such a monument, according to a private consensus, owing to certain political realities.
This six million is the ‘incorrect’ six million, because their inconvenient story is not and has not been useful to today’s elite. The tribal affiliations of the chief perpetrator (Jew) and the victims (non-Jews) are the wrong ones, not fitting into the ‘correct’ pattern.
According to Solzhenitsyn in the eighty years that preceded the Revolution in Russia, – years of revolutionary activity, uprisings and the assassination of a Czar, an average of ten persons a year were executed. After the Revolution, in 1918 and 1919, according to the figures of the Cheka, the secret police itself – more than a thousand persons were executed per month without trial. In 1937-8, at the height of Stalin’s terror, more than 40 000 persons were executed per month. (*Solzhenitsyn p17).
Millions of persons were executed or sent to labour camps. In his magnum opus The Gulag Archipelago, Solzhenitsyn credits Naftaly Frenkel, a ‘Turkish-born Jew’, with being works chief / chief overseer of the one-hundred-and-forty-mile-long Belomor (Baltic-White Sea) canal, built entirely with slave labour (paperback edition, vol 2 p 72). Solzhenitsyn quotes the official Soviet history of the project which describes Frenkel as having ‘..the eyes of an interrogator and prosecutor.. A man with enormous love of power and pride, for whom the main thing is unlimited power. If it is necessary for him to be feared, then let him be feared. He spoke harshly to the engineers, attempting to humiliate them.’ (ibid p 75). Other Jews were also involved in influential positions. Yakov Rappoport was deputy chief of construction (p 7 and Matvei Berman was the Chief of Gulag (p 79). Frenkel, Berman and Rappoport are amongst six men described by Solzhenitsyn as ‘hired murderers’, ‘each of whom accounted for thirty thousand lives’ (p 91). Is Solzhenitsyn alone in his accusations? Why are these names generally unknown to ordinary citizens in the West?
“The major role Jewish leaders played in the November (Russian) revolution was probably more important than any other factor in confirming (Hitler’s) anti-Semitic beliefs.” (J&S Pool, Who Financed Hitler, p.164).
“There has been a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the German Communist Party, and thereby seriously neglect one of the genuine and objective reasons for increased anti-Semitism during and after World War 1.. The prominence of Jews in the revolution and early Weimar Republic is indisputable, and this was a very serious contributing cause for increased anti-Semitism in post-war years.. It is clear then that the stereotype of Jews as socialists and communists.. led many Germans to distrust the Jewish minority as a whole and to brand Jews as enemies of the German nation.” (Sarah Gordon Hitler, Germans and the ‘Jewish Question’ Princeton University Press (1984) p 23).
“The second paroxysm of strong anti-Semitism came after the critical role of Jews in International Communism and the Russian Revolution and during the economic crises of the 1920s and 30s… Anti-Semitism intensified throughout Europe and North America following the perceived and actual centrality of Jews in the Russian Revolution.. Such feelings were not restricted to Germany, or to vulgar extremists like the Nazis. All over Northern Europe and North America, anti-Semitism became the norm in ‘nice society’, and ‘nice society’ included the universities.” (Bernal, Black Athena vol. 1 pp. 367, 387).
“To many outside observers, the Russian revolution looked like a Jewish conspiracy, especially when it was followed by Jewish-led revolutionary outbreaks in much of central Europe. The leadership of the Bolshevik Party had a preponderance of Jews and included Litvinov (real name Wallach), Liadov (Mandelshtam), Shklovsky, Saltz, Gusev (Drabkin), Zemliachka (Salkind), Helena Rozmirovich, Serafima Gopner, Yaroslavsky (Gubelman), Yaklovlev (Epstein), Riaznov (Goldendach), Uritsky and Larin. Of the seven members of the Politburo, the inner cabinet of the country, four, Trotsky (Bronstein), Zinoviev (Radomsky), Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Sverdlov, were Jews.”
When Lenin died in 1924, Zinoviev – the first chairman of the Communist International – formed a triumvirate with Kamenev and Stalin to govern Russia. This ‘Troika’ as it was known was formed to keep Trotsky from the succession. Stalin was the only one of the three members of the Troika who was not Jewish. “Though Zinoviev and Kamenev feared Trotsky as too militant and extreme, they shared his belief in permanent revolution, which Stalin did not. Russia had been in almost continuous turmoil for twenty years and had suffered revolutions and counter-revolutions, war, invasions and a pitiless and drawn-out civil war. There were limits to which the endurance of a people could be stretched. The Russians wanted to bury their dead and resume what they could of normal life. Stalin understood this. Trotsky, Zinoviev and Kamenev (the three Jews) did not.”
“Jews had a prominent role in Communist parties elsewhere..” (Chaim Bermant, The Jews (1977)).
As it says, there was a famine harvest. The crop failed. Part of it was due to sheer sabotage. As the piece notes, they destroyed 55% of the livestock in the USSR. Not only did they not plant the fields, but they burned the crops in the fields or left them to rot. Also they ran around with guns destroying the crops and animals in collective farms. As a result of all this, plus a wheat rust epidemic, the crop failed and there was a famine harvest. Result? Famine.
About 5.4 million died in the famine and diseases resulting from it, mostly from diseases. The population transfer described above was also very brutal and 390,000 people were killed. If you want to call that genocide, go for it.
The Holodomor lie says that the crop was normal that year, but Stalin confiscated it to deliberately starve the Ukrainians. It’s a lie. The crop failed. That’s called famine harvest. Result of famine harvest is famine. Nothing deliberate about it.
You are a little slimy Jew neo con aren’t you?
Where’s ur proof that this famine never existed and that it was a lie???? There are eye-witnesses and pictures were being taken… pffft… think before u say something
There was a famine. A deliberate famine? Don’t think so. The crop failed one year. That’s what happened. No deliberate starvation of Ukrainians.
Like the photographic material used, horrifying photographs of starving children, had been taken from 1922 publications at a time when millions of people did die from hunger and war conditions because eight foreign armies had invaded the Soviet Union during the Civil War of 1918-1921? Douglas Tottle gives the facts surrounding the reporting of the famine of 1934 and exposes the assorted lies published in the Hearst press. One journalist who had over a long period of time sent reports and photographs from supposed famine areas was Thomas Walter, a man who never set foot in the Ukraine and even in Moscow had spent but a bare five days. This fact was revealed by the journalist Louis Fisher, Moscow Correspondent of The Nation, an American newspaper. Fisher also revealed that the journalist M. Parrott, the real Hearst press correspondent in Moscow, had sent Hearst reports that were never published concerning the excellent harvest achieved by the Soviet Union in 1933 and on the Ukraine’s advancement. Tottle proves as well that the journalist who wrote the reports on the alleged Ukrainian famine, ‘Thomas Walker’, was really called Robert Green and was a convict who had escaped from a state prison in Colorado! This Walker, or Green, was arrested when he returned to the US and when he appeared in court, he admitted that he had never been to the Ukraine. All the lies concerning millions dead of starvation in the Ukraine in the 1930s, in a famine supposedly engineered by Stalin only came to be unmasked in 1987! Hearst, the Nazi, the police agent Conquest and others had conned millions of people with their lies and fake reports. Even today the Nazi Hearst’s stories are still being repeated in newly-published books written by authors in the pay of right-wing interests.
Wasn’t the genocide supposed to be kept top secret or something? Why would they have papers of something that’s supposed to be top secret? The Holocaust was not meant to be a secret, so of course there’ll be papers for it. And how do you know that those papers weren’t faked? I’m not arguing for or against an artificial famine, but it’s kindof weird that peasants would kill off their livestock and burn their crops for no reason, isn’t it? If there was that wheatrust stuff, why would they burn their remaining crops? And what about all of the pictures and stuff? What, were they from the Holocaust or something, not the Holodomor? I’m so lost…..
They were killing the livestock to protest collectivization. They were going to lose the crops and livestock anyway with collectivization. This occurred over several years and it’s all documented. The Wheat Thrust was during the one famine year. The crop burning and all went on for 4-5 years. There are pictures of famine victims, but that does not prove a deliberate famine. There was a famine. There was no deliberate famine.
Everything you said here is complete bullshit. Although the entire story is probably not accurate, the fact that this was a natural famine is a lie. It was an artificial famine, and any inacuracies are due to the fact that ukraine was concentrating on living, not documenting a bunch of russian bastards killing each individual person. And to prove that you dont know what you’re talking about – they don’t even have Is in their alphabet and the Ts would have to be crossed otherwise it would be an L, wouldn’t it? Dont give me some bullshit about evidence. It wasnt like a group of teens reported this happening – were talking thousands, even millions of, not witnesses, but PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED THIS. Ukraine relies on russia for many things, particularily oil. If holodomor was a fake, do you think ukrainians would really try to get holodomor approved as a genocide and risk losing russias support? NO – ukrainians would ONLY risk losing russia if it was to prove their countries TRUE history.
So Mr. Robert FATSAY – FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU GET YOUR FACTS STRAIT.
Hey Dan, big boy. You’re banned. Bye.
I truly feel sorry for you, i know how it feels when these people still cling to the lies of the Nazis =D. I wish you the best in finally exposing these anti Soviet lies and I hope that this document will help
Hey Bob big girl stick that ugly head of yours in the nearest toilet and move on to the parallel universe where you belong.
Please check your facts. It is hurtful to see such ignorance denying a fact that is plain as day. Yes, there was a failed crop, but some crops survived. Stalin took what little the Ukrainians had, which were intended for them, and promised food and pay in return for their labor. When he did not provide this, the Ukrainians starved and many died. Stalin’s main focus at the time, as he even stated once when speaking with a great historical figure, was to wipe out the Ukrainian culture to take their land and absorb what was left of the nation. Saying this did not occur is like saying the Holocaust never happened. There are photographs and accounts from people who were there for both events. Your numbers are also incorrect; 3-3.5 is the most accurate estimated number of Ukrainians that died during Holodomor. This is how cultures become blind to the truth- we begin to make historical events that of fiction, when in fact they are things we need to learn from. Jews still lap up the sympathy like warm milk when the Holocaust is mentioned. I think Ukrainians have every right in the world to ask the same, especially since they are a poverty-stricken nation. My fathers owns two orphanages there. The nation is in poor condition- if they can get a couple million off Russia, it’d be no skin off my teeth. In fact, I’d rather them have to pour money into Ukraine’s condition than shovel it towards nuclear warheads. The world has enough issues. Don’t deny the past, or you will suffer in the future. It’s a proven fact.
This article is bull shit.
I agree with Dan.
K, what you have said here is complete crapola. Have you even looked into any research on this subject??? There is statistcal proof that this horror took place. Point number one: harvest for the year of 1933 (the year that the famine was at it’s worst) was 22.3 million tons of grain. This was more than in the years preceding, and following the famine. It could not have possibly been a famine due to a lack of grain. And how about the census that was released in 1937, showing the decline of population in Ukraine, but nowhere else in the USSR? Oh wait, it was because it only took place in the Ukraine! Get your facts straight! This event took place, just as the Holocaust did.
You’re full of crapola. Look at the facts
“the year that the famine was at it’s worst) was 22.3 million tons of grain”
your own statistics prove you wrong, because the Soviet Government quickly established a food rationing system which encompassed the people starving from the famine ALL OVER the USSR, not just the Ukraine. This food rationing system managed to feed over 50 million people(requiring around 17 million tons of food) over the famine years. Also the usual harvest was just less than 70 million tons, so yea, your own figure indicates that there WAS a lack of grain.
The Soviet famine, although tragic, was the result of a mix of complicated events, including massive plant disease, and insect infestations, drought, then heavy rains which damaged the crops, natural disasters, Soviet inexperience, and as Robert has rightfully said, small groups of Ukrainian terrorists killing livestock and burning crops. Other than this, Soviet reports in the Archives also detailed the starvation of hundreds of thousands in Siberia, and harsh famine and drought in the Volga region.
“Ukrainian census” you forget that Robert Conquest’s bull**** census took the population from 1926 – 1932, from which he “calculated” that 7 million people “died”. But he forgets to mention that 3 million Ukrainian Tartars were reclassified as “Russian” after the borders were redrawn, accounting for half of his “victims”!
Robert, what do you make of the fact that the Russian Empire from 1880 to 1914 was industrializing rapidly, faster than any other nation in Europe, and the Bolsheviks really retarded this progress after they seized power? In fact had Russia stayed out of World War I, with the Tsarist regime intact, I believe they could’ve reached the development levels of western Europe by the 1950s.
It’s a vast, huge, gigantic lie. The average life expectancy in 1917 was only 32 years. The overwhelming majority of Russians lived in the worst poverty and squalor imaginable.
Now one knows how Russia would have turned out. It’s gigantic guessing game.
Furthermore, that’s Czarist propaganda. You are reciting that from Cold Warrior Richard Pipes, Daniel Pipes’ father. Yes, both are Jews, nasty ones too.
The overwhelming majority of Russians supported the original Left Revolution in 1917 (not necessarily the Bolshevik coup that followed). That’s because they were living in a world of shit.
In the early years of the USSR, until 1939, no nation had ever grown or developed so fast in the history of the world. I doubt the Czars could have matched that.
Czarism was shit. There was a reason that that revolution won. Afterwards, the Czarists waged a huge civil war. Most of the major powers of the West, including the US, Germany and the UK, all invaded the USSR. The Red Army beat them all. That is because the Russian people hated Czarism so much that they rallied behind the great Red Army. The feudalist White Army was hated. The peasants and workers supported the Bolshevik state to the hilt!
Don’t let these lies about “Jewish Communists murdered 60 million Russian Christians” get to you.
4 million were killed, not 60 or 110 or however many.
1.8 million of those were simply criminals. Many of the rest were professional revolutionaries, Communists.
Many of the rest took up arms against the state or went over to the Nazi Orcs during the invasion.
There were no “millions of Russian Christians murdered by Jewish Communists.” Never happened!
If they were Jews, wouldn’t they be anti-Tsarist?
Asian anon, I’m inclined to agree with Robert here that Jews did not orchestrate the deaths of 60 million Russians.
Listen to Yuri Maltsev’s interview on The Political Cesspool.
They played a role, but it was a more of a Communist vs. non-Communist issue than Jew vs. gentile.
They played a role, but it was a more of a Communist vs. non-Communist issue than Jew vs. gentile.
Richard Pipes is a Cold Warrior. He hates Communists. So he thought the Czar was better.
Have you read Yuri Slezkine’s book The Jewish Century, which MacDonald cites a lot? There certainly was an ethnic angle to early Soviet politics, and MacDonald frequently says the Bolsheviks were the worst tyrants of the twentieth century.
MacDonald is totally full of shit. There were more Latvians than Jews in the Bolsheviks, all the way up to WW2. How come we don’t here about Latvian Communist terrorists murdered 110 million Russian Christians.
The Jewish Communists were not even Jews. They left Judaism. Most of the peasants supported the Party all the way. Some nationalists in the Ukraine did not. The Jewish Communists, or any of the Communists, had no hostility towards Russian Christians or any of that. The regime opposed all religion. Synagogues were shuttered also.
Actually they spared the synagogues. And what matters is if they are ethnically Jewish, not whether they believe in hocus pocus.
No they didn’t. They closed down as many synagogues as churches. Anyway, a lot of that was happening under Stalin. The Jewish era in the USSR was over by 1927.
Kevin MacDonald believes the end of the Jewish era was after 1945, with the beginning of the Cold War. Wouldn’t you agree that the divorce between the USSR and world Jewry happened somewhere between 1948 and 1953?
Pipes is a revolting capitalist sewer rat. Worse than Robert Service.
Did Pipes work for the CIA?
Fuck Richard Pipes. And fuck his son, Daniel Pipes. You hear that, Daniel? I said fuck you!
How hawkish was Richard Pipes? Was he as bad as Barry Goldwater?
The notion that the Bolshevik Revolution was a Jewish plot is nonsensical. The prominent Jewish members of the Party Zinoviev and Kamenev (Trotsky only joined circa July 1917 and thus was without influence) had fiercely opposed Lenin’s plan to seize the State; they had even disclosed the date of the revolution to a newspaper two weeks before it took place!
The Jews as represented by Russia’s (as well as in America) top oligarchs (Khodorkovsy, Abramovich, Vekelsberg, and Fridman are in the top ten) are the most enthusiastic practioners of capitalism.
Another factor to take into consideration is that a Jewish hag named Fanya Kaplan shot and severely wounded Lenin during the summer of 1918.
First members of Council of People’s Commissars (State in contrast to Party):
Chairman: V. I. Lenin – 1/4 Russian, Tatar, German, Jewish
Commissar of Agriculture: V. P. Milyutin – Russian
Army and Navy: V. A. Ovseyenko, N. V. Krylenko, P. V. Dybenko – Russians
Commerce and Industry: V. P. Nogin – Russian
Education: A. V. Lunacharsky – Ukrainian
Food: I. A. Teodorovich – Polish
Foreign Affairs: L. D. Trotsky – Jude
Interior: A. I. Rykov – Russian
Justice: G. I. Oppokov – Russian
Labour: A. G. Shlyapnikov – Russian
Nationality Affairs: I. V. Stalin – Georgian
Post and Telegraphs: N. P. Avilov – Russian
Treasury: I. I. Skvortsov-Stepanov – Russian
State Property – Karelin V.A., Russian
Local Government: Trutovsky V.E., Russian
Thus, there was one single Jew out of about 18.
Additonal notables added afterwards coming to mind include:
Internal Affairs: F. E Dzerzhinski – Polish
Social Welfare: A.M Kollontai – 1/2 Ukrainian, Finnish
Lenin – Russian
Bubnov – Russian
Kamenev – (Paternal) Jude; Lost spot in 1926
Trotsky – Jude. Lost spot in 1926
Stalin – Georgian
Krestinsky – Jude convert to Christianity.
Zinoviev – Jude. Lost spot in 1926
Bukharin – Russian
Rykov – Russian
Tomsky (real name Efremov) – Russian
Molotov (real name Scriabin) – Russian
Kalinin – Russian
Kuibyshev – Russian
Grigory Yakovlevich Sokolnikov – Jude
Dzerzhinsky – Polish
Frunze – Romanian
Voroshilov – Russian
Rudzutak – Latvian
Petrovsky – Ukrainian
Uglanov – Russian
Ordzhokinidze – Georgian
Andreyev – Russian
Kirov – Russian
Mikoyan – Armenian
Kaganovich – Jude. Purged in 1956
Chubar – Ukrainian
Kossior – Ukrainian
Karl Yanovich Bauman – Latvian
Syrtsov – Russian
Postyshev – Ukrainian
Zhdanov – From Ukraine; gentile.
Eikhe – Latvian
Yezhov – Russian
Khrushchev – Ukrainian
Beria – Georgian
Shvernik – Latvian
After 1945, there were virtually no Jews in the the leadership of the Party. There were according to USSR statistics from 1959, 14 Jews out of 5,312 deputies in the Supreme Soviet.
Members of the Central Committee of the Party at the XI Congress (1922):
Andreev, Bukharin, Voroshilov, Dzerzhinsky, Zelensky, Zinoviev, Kalinin, Kamenev, Korotkov, Kuibyshev, Lenin, Molotov, Orzhonikidze, Petrovsky, Radek, Rakovsky, Rudzutak, Rykov, Sapronov, Smirnov, Sokolnikov, Stalin, Tomsky, Trotsky, Frunze, Chubar, Yaroslavsky,Badaev, Bubnov, Gusev, Kirov, Kiselev, Komarov, Krivov, Lebed, Lepse, Lobov, Manuilsky, Mikoyan, Mikhailov, Pyatakov, Rakhimbaev, Safarov, Smigla, Sulimov, Schmidt.
The Jews here were Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Sokolnikov, and Radek. I suspect that Zelensky and Schmidt (German) may have never been Jews.
Fayna Kaplan was a Jewish HEROINE! FUCK YOU COMMIE GARBAGE GO JOIN LENIN!
You are banned, Nazi.
To the person that wrote this artical your a idiot. Who are you to stay something never happened where millions of people lost their lives?? My whole family died except one person my amazing grandma. & thank god i had her tell me the truth instead of having to take information from small minded people like yourself. Get a life.
All right, you are banned.
Lenin opposed anti-Semitism as counter revolutionary and was an internationalist. Your national bolshevism thing is odd as hell. Fanya Kaplan represented the social revolutionary party, not jewishness.
Anon I think you should actually read read Yuri Slezkhine. He’s rather positive about the Soviet Union.
Robert, since Solzhenitysn actually lived in the USSR during the early decades, shouldn’t he be a credible source? In “Two Hundred Years Together”, he makes the case for Jewish hegemony in the USSR from 1917 up until WW2.
He was an anti-Semitic nut who hated Jews. He was a Czarist monarchist and he was also a fascist until his dying day. Franco was one of his favorites. A real bastard.
Stalin ran the USSR after 1926. Stalin was a Jew or what? Sure, there were some Jews in the party, but there were even more Latvians. How come we never hear about Latvian dominance of the USSR?
The old Jews were wiped out in the purges of 1938, which disproportionately effected Jews.
David Duke considers Solzhenitsyn a credible source and a Russian hero.
Sure, Duke is a whacked out anti-Semite nut himself.
You should actually study what he really believes before making any judgments. Keep an open mind. A lot of his videos on youtube are very informative and educational.
On solzhenitzyn, O.O dude he supported Franco’s fascism, and said that 110 million(ONE HUNDRED TEN MILLION) Russians were killed by communism, that’s effectively 7 out of 8……considering this, David Duke’s gotta be a nut job man, no offense =D
Wow. You should really read more into the Holodomor before saying it never happened.
Just finished reading a firsthand account of the famine. You should probably read it too.
Eyewitness accounts are totally unreliable especially when historical events have a contemporary political objective (remember the Serbian rape camp stories?) and the whole narrative of the Balkans war which have now been debunked something the controlled mass media in Britain and the US does not want you to see which was very briefly covered in this Dutch documentary.
In the case of the fake engineered famine was political at the time and today for similar overall reason and it is not about Communism or Stalinism (a Trotskyite term).
Historians have a hard time to explain an alternative collectivisation policy that would have prevented the famine occurring.
Sorry I forgot to insert to rape propaganda link.
Eyewitness accounts are totally unreliable especially when historical events have a contemporary political objective (remember the Serbian rape camp stories?)
this is ridiculuos. Obviously Holodomor is a real thing. You are ignorant and un educated. Read up dude!
He has as have I then it become so obvious that it was not a deliberate famine if that were the case they would not hide facts like it effect pro Russian East not nationalist West, is based on Hearst fascist newspaper serial and Nazi propaganda which was debunked at the time, that there were periodic famine near annually until 32-33, that it was not limited to Ukraine and effected major agricultural centres the worst that’s why Eastern Ukraine was effected the hardest, that it was not a perfect harvest leading up to the famine and that they use Povolzhye Famine (Volga famine 1921-22) pictures in Holomodor propaganda.
Fuck you, Jewish liar. Only your genocide was important? See you in hell, heathen kike.
All right, you’re banned.
oh i feel your pain dude, the sheer feeling of these walls closing in on you, when you finally discovered that your entire beliefs and “wisdom” about the “evil” USSR has been nothing but complete bullshit.
But of course, seeing that you’re nothing but a child, i guess you don’t know how to accept the truth, see you in hell. I’ll see Stalin in Heaven BWAHAHAHAHAHA =D
Robert the early Communist movement was clearly based on the ethnic conflict between Pale of Settlement Jews and ethnic Russians and Ukrainians as the early Communist terrorist groups were all Jews with even the most prominent non-Jews having Jewish wives backed by foreign powers lead by Britain who did not want Russia pan-Slavic expansion into Eurasia and parts of Europe.
Robert, thank you for a fair article. I’d also recommend to read some Stephen Weatcroft materials on it. And Victor Zemskov if you can read Russian. And here could be found the whole collection of the Soviet documents of that period. http://www.rusarchives.ru/publication/hunger-ussr/content.shtml Each document presented as a scanned copy. And there is no word their about any starvation on purpose.
Your an idiot
Nice bullshit article you evil , truth twisting kike. I guess the jews who engineered the Holodomor, Gendrikh Yagoda & Lazar Kaganovich are made up too right? I wouldn’t be surprised if your next bullshit article is about the Jew owned slave ships which brought black African slaves to the New World being a lie to. Its no wonder why the jews are the most hated people on the face of the planet. Keep studying your satanic holybook the talmud while you’re at it.
Ok Nazi, you’re banned.
Oh that’s right. Holocaust has been trademarked by the Jews.
Hey Lindsay, you should read the Talmud sometime. Gentiles are donkeys? It’s ok to kill a Gentile if he strikes a Jew? Gentile women are Niddah (FILTHY) all the time?
Get a clue buddy. We see where the racism is loud and clear. We also see the mass killing.
I suppose I am a Nazi too for exposing the Talmud right? I do know I am fully liable for the death penalty for doing so, right? Or do you not know the book you defend?
Nice try, Mr. Lindsay…
..but your arguments you’ve just copied from holocaust revisionists. You wash clean bloody Soviet hands and spit at the Nazis and their imaginary hologram… sorry, holocaust at the same time.
One thing is certain:
During both events (“Holocaust” and “Holodomor”) many people died, BOTH fatal victims only consisted of skin and bones due to lack of food – in both cases they died of epidemic plagues because of a weak immune system (bad/no nutrition). In case of the holocaust there is no clear evidence of having used gas (vaporous pesticide in the form of pellets -> Zyklon-B) against humans as it was used to fumigate clothes to kill typhus transmitting louses. No need to do that with people who would die a few days later by starvation or infection. Furthermore, Nazis documented very well their exections which were commonly by shooting, by hanging and decapitation via guillotine. They invented extremely effective and hazardous nerve gasses (Sarin, Tabun, Soman) found in tons in big storages which has never been used during the war, not even against enemy soldiers. No gassing with Zyklon-B has ever been recorded – videos or photos do not exist; on paper you can claim many things.
To sum up: Such high numbers of casualties in both cases have never been independently proven.
commie pile of filth, you’ve gone too far. The Ukrainian People’s Army fought the nazis AND your beloved soviets simultaneously, bitch. Denying the Holodomor is as bad as denying the Holocaust. Ukrainians, Jews, and Poles were united under our suffering under soviet russhits and nazi germans. Besides, commies deny the holocaust too and robbitch, you in your other posts support the paleshitians (your leftard comrades); who are notorious Holocaust deniers (since Arabs refuse to learn about anyone else’s suffering). The Germans are sorry for everything and have apologized. russkis most of whom aren’t human, haven’t apologized to us Ukrainians.
Lindsay provides zero evidence for his claims.
His agenda is unwaveringly philo-semitic and pro-communist, despite what the evidence shows and the lack of evidence in his possession.
His non-existent arguments aren’t surprising given his lack of ability to follow the basic rules of rhetoric, and therefore persuasion, and avoid utterly relying on logical fallacies such as ad-hominems.
The large number of protests here point to the fact that Lindsay is well in the minority of belief. The rest of the world is wrong Lindsay, and you are correct? Is that it? What qualifications do you have to back this narcissistic fantasy, in teh face of overwhelming disagreement, that your conclusions are reality? None? typical of someone who has a personality disorder, or, alternately, is a person with a biased agenda. I think that you are both.
Sir, you fail to provide any substance or facts. There was a famine but it was not purposely induced. So what if the entire world believes in something that is popular? Is your mind that enclosed and static? Remember, slavery was a very popular, as well, Christians and the wealthy developed all sorts of pretexts for its morality.
Soviet Union, very short life. It just imploded on itself.
DEATH TO THE MOSKALI
FUCK YOU SUBHUMAN RUSSIANS AND COMMIE SHITS
FUCK NAZIS TOO
I feel as if this is the most ridiculous piece of garbage I have ever read. I am ukrainian and my family has gone through this how could you say that it was just a failed crop. Stalin took the lives of so many, not just ukrainians also his own people because he wanted a better Russia. I know the true effects it had on people; there are even documentaries about this. Before you put garbage like this on the internet you need to get all the facts straight. It’s pathetic that people like you think that this is all just a big joke. Obviously you lack intelligence, it’s a very difficult trait to acquire.
Then your family is a clad of fabricating dogs. There are documentaries on Snookie, so what’s your point? I can film loads of BS videos and dub ’em legit.
Hahahaha. Well I see you have no respect for people nor yourself if you’re going to tell someone that their family is a clad of fabricating dogs. My great grandmother had to give all her food to my grandfather to keep him alive. So she ended up having no choice but to eat grass and such. Also her husband worked in a bakery shop and he wouldn’t give food to guys that were robbing the store so they murdered him. Obviously I know for a fact that this is not fabricated, you need to realize that you have been improperly educated. Have you ever watched Stalin Man of Steel on DVD from the history channel. This might open your eyes since you in-fact are a very close minded individual.
What happen to the liberal doctrine of having to earn respect? As far as I know, you can be a sadist. What, I’m supposed to use the H channel as a viable source? I guess aliens also built the pyramids. There was a famine, no one in their right mind can deny that, but to state that Stalin deliberately generated the famine? That’s just asinine. I’m a very open-minded individual, sir.
I’m am positive that you have respect until you lose it. Haha. Also of course I’m a sadist that’s why I care about all those victims that died during the famine, including my family. The history channel is a credible resource of information, and it has been for many years. It uses actually documentation, such as photos, legal documents &ect from the certain historical event. Listen you probably believe in manbearpig so I don’t know you wild thing, believe what you will. Haha. I’m not trying to persuade you to believe me, I’m just telling you the facts. Also yes Stalin did cause this famine, why did he send the red army and the NKVD to people’s houses to collect their grain and food? Then if they didn’t cooperate, they would be executed or sent to gulags. If he wasn’t responsible for this why did he force people to give up everything they had? Just because he wanted a “better russia”, which called for massive industrialization and the only way he could pay for it was with agriculture. Since Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe and they have the best soil; He thought that he needed it so if noone would cooperate he used force. Ukraine was part of the USSR but it was still it’s own country, he had no right to do that. The end result was a heinous genocide of the Ukrainian people. Excuse any of my typos I was texting this reply in my phone.
If you genuinely believe that the The history channel “is a credible resource of information, and it has been for many years” I feel for you. Sending soldiers to seize crops to feed the the workers who were forced to industrialize under the threat of the U.S. sanctions, embargo, and the emerging Third Reich constitutes a deliberate famine? You realize if it weren’t for this rapid industrialization the entire Soviet Bloc would have been conquered feasibly, and any non-Aryans would have been slaughtered. Hitler would add Eastern Europe to his war-machine and conquer Britain. Let’s not forget the Ukrainian nationalists who sympathized with the Nazis and hunted down Jews and spread disinformation and propaganda. Why would Stalin kill Ukrainian workers if he needed their labor in order to cultivate the crops? Same thing happened in Cuba; before the plantation owners fled, they destroyed their machinery, their cattle, and used scorched-earth tactics – my grandfather did this to his own plantation before he fled to Miami and regretted it on his deathbed- Not to mention that the death toll and population statistics don’t match up.
I’m sorry, but there are so much questions, so much blank spaces that it is hard to accept, that suddenly, in Europe’s bread basket there were such problems, as hunger, inability, to collect grain or no actual harvest at all. And, there are no records of weather so bad, that would make such situation, aswell. Even if, even if there was anything as nature caused hunger – why weren’t there any help from Moscow? It makes me curious, why would anyone occupy country, if they could leave them in hard times. That’s such stupidity. And after everything Russian’s did in 20th century, it is quite hard to even allow a thought that one of that all might be falsification. Oh, yeah. By the way, I’m quite lucky to write this comment here. My grandpa’s dad was dying at the time, when Russians had lists with people to deport to Siberia, and he was there. If wasn’t his health problems, I wouldn’t even be alive. As we, Latvians say, luck in misfortune.
I’m not accusing you of anything(as I read comments of you being nazi, commie and so on.), I’m just saying that above everything that they did, it doesn’t feel quite possible that one thing might be untrue.
Robert Lindsay, sir, you are a complete douchebag. Is there proof for the holocaust? Nope. None that I can see – all those pictures and videos are fabricated. You are a complete waste of life – I hope you rot in hell.
Evidence for truth in holodomor may be found in Commissar legislation. I have read Stalin prepared for WWII by selling Ukraine grain. The ‘tax’ was increased exponentially as punishment and in the prep for war (on Germany?) I seem to recall a quote from a Commissar bragging on this ‘fact’. Any thoughts?
Robert Lindsay, I ask you this sincerely, but why do you hold this perspective against the Holdomor? is it because of a political point of view or due to personal involvement? Or is it simply because of research and careful analysis of the arguments presented?
I ask you this sincerely as I am currently in the middle of a research project and would benefit greatly from your reply.
Ideology, plus I do not think that Holodomor proponents have proved their case. There was no intentional genocide. 1 million died in Siberia. There was mass death in the Lower Volga and they supported the regime 100%. The argument makes no sense.
Cui bono Robert? You may well be right but I have my doubts. My guess is you are jewish and believe all that there is about the holocaust. If the holodomor is fake then so too could the holocaust be so. If the holodomor is correct and did happen then the bolshevik jewish extremists in control of the country were behind it. Perhaps that is why you don’t want it to be true.
I am not Jewish, sorry. There was no Holodomor. Famine, yes. Holodomor, no.
Communism very good, yes. We purge Jew and Liberal. Useful idiot like article writer go straight to Gulag.
All Amerikans should join communist party immediately.
no, only liberal capitalists allow/finance the fascist ruffians who hunt down the Jews and shed crocodile tears after pictures of the camps emerge.
There’s plenty of blame to go around for the famine during the collectivization, particularly in the Ukraine. The issue of centralizing and modernizing food distribution to the point where it would support an industrial society with a large urban workforce was deferred under the New Economic Policy of 1923. There was no strategic coherence to food acquisition and distribution policy, it was reactive. The Great Turn five year plan of 1928-33 gave completely inadequate consideration to modernizing food distribution during crash industrialization. By the early 1930s, food distribution was at a crisis point, which was compounded by the bad harvest of 1932. Stalin’s ham-handed crash collectivization was inefficient and inhumane. He was in fact severely criticized for its handling at the 1934 (?) Party Congress, which nucleated opposition that he then squelched.
The Ukraine was also a center of counterrevolutionary activity under the influence of the Aufbau Vereinigung (Reconstruction Union), which was based in Germany after the close of World War I. AV had its base among ethnic Germans from the Baltic states and the Ukraine (Nazi theorist Alfred Rosenberg was a Baltic German associated with AV before he became a Nazi, and the radical, apocalyptic anti-Jewish ideology adopted by the Nazis was rooted in Russia). AV’s efforts fizzled out in the mid-1920s, but their contacts in the Ukraine remained at the ready when civil confrontations over collectivization presented them with opportunity. Terrorism. sabotage, and destruction of livestock and crops were features of the conflict in the Ukraine more than anywhere else in the Soviet Union, and for a very deliberate reason. They were being encouraged as part of a strategy to topple the Soviet government Whatever degree of problems were caused by the Soviet mismanagement, at least an equal responsibility lies with AV sympathizers and nationalists.
The industrialization and agricultural collectivization were a brutal experience for many Soviet citizens – they were uprooted to work long hours under repressive conditions for little (if any) personal reward. But the inconceivably rapid development of Soviet industrial capacity in the 1930s was the single biggest factor allowing the Soviet Union to withstand the Nazi onslaught of World War II.
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What’s with all this “Jewish Communist this-and-that” in the comments when Stalin was a Georgian trained as an Orthodox priest who purged Jews from the power structure of the Communist Party?
You can say whatever you want about the Soviet Union and its policies but one thing is clear, the rapid industrialisation of the USSR was the reason why Nazi Germany was crushed. Ukrainian nationalists always avoid commenting on the fact that if the Nazis had won the Ukrainian nationalists and general Ukrainian population would have been butchered or enslaved since they weren’t German. Can you imagine a world where Stalin wasn’t there to rapidly industrialise the USSR? Germany would have had access to land well out of reach of British and American bombers and access to URANIUM MINES!!! Remember guys, the Nazis were the ones who had the most research done on Nuclear Weaponry. Nazi information plus Soviet land would have resulted in an Allied loss. The Nazis would then vanquish their former allies the Japanese and Italians and start a brutal genocide of most non Germans enslaving the survivors. I myself thank Stalin for his leadership and the Soviets for enduring what can only be considered to be hell. I bid thee, Stalin, farewell.
“Compare to the Nazi archives, where huge piles of evidence documenting the Holocaust have been uncovered, despite the Nazis’ determined efforts to cover it up.”
please produce ONE piece of German documentation that mentions the existence of gas chambers. the British were cracking the codes through the entire war including those sent to and from the concentration camps without the Germans knowledge.
only one document MIGHT suggest the operation Reinhardt massacres of jews shot into pits but geophysics at sobibor shows no earth disturbance despite the fact that the site isn’t even big enough to burry that many people and the Jewish chief rabbi of Poland will not allow an full excavation the only minor archaeological work performed turned up some tiles and a shark tooth and a whole lot of nothing.
Nice fairy tale … The 6 million no i mean 5 wait no 1 million Jews that got holocausted was a good one too
Interesting article. Is it possible that the Holodomor was Trotskyite/liberal propaganda to defame Stalin? Considering that the same people made up the lies of the Holocaust, yes, it is possible.
My issue with you is how can you see through the anti-Soviet propaganda, yet you swallow the Holyhoax drivel? Both serve the same purpose of making Isolationism (defence of the Motherland/Fatherland) appear to be some kind of evil, and Globalism to be great.
Look behind the lies and you will see the rat Trotsky at play. You’re half way to being awake to the enemy. You need to let go of the 6 million fable and then you will see that the same shit use the same techniques to libel all who offer an economic alternative to their bankers stanglehold