Clarification on Modern White Separatism

There has been a lot of confusion about what these White separatist folks really want. There are of course crazies who want forcible separation. But what the more moderate White separatists are proposing is a more voluntary model.
In the formations of the saner ones, some areas of the US will be set aside for Whites. It’s all voluntary. If you’re White and you want to give live there, go for it.
Some proposals also carve out areas for Blacks and Hispanics. Incredibly, these are actually pitched by the Far Left, typically Maoists. Some Black Supremacists also want a Black homeland in the US South.
The rest of the country, I think, would just be mixed race and any White who didn’t want to go to Whiteland, any Black who didn’t want to go to Blackland, or any Hispanic who did not want go to Aztlan could just go live in Mixtopia.
Neverthelesss, I think the whole idea sucks, and it is segregation in a sense, let’s face it. Some of the Whites would just be segregating themselves, just like they used to.
Supposedly any White enclave that tried to do this would be declared illegal by the US government for some reason, and I believe it would be illegal.
Violation of the Civil Rights Act and the Fair Housing Act, among other things, come to mind. I believe that “housing covenants” were ruled illegal after the Fair Housing Act of 1968.
There are still some towns in the US South that are effectively Sundown towns for Blacks and few if any Blacks live there. No one seems to be doing anything about it.

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19 thoughts on “Clarification on Modern White Separatism”

  1. From what little I know about either of them, David Duke seems to have the same idea of, and reasons for advocating, separatism as does Louis Farrakhan. Whether Duke is sincere or not I don’t know. I don’t think it’s practical but there are arguments for it that aren’t necessarily racist; e.g. that the historical handicap of slavery and racism means that it’s not been, and isn’t likely to be, possible to close the ‘advantage’ gap enough to fully integrate a majority of the black population – like adding sugar to coffee, if you add too much to one cup, it just sinks to the bottom and stays separated. Note by this that I don’t mean just people who are ‘culturally different’ ( and I’m not sure that US blacks are that different) but an identifiable and self-identifying community whose social networks include next to no capital, legal business schools, successful and educated role models etc. Maybe the sugar analogy would be more clear if we thought of a big huge sugar LUMP, forming about one third of the bulk of the cup it sits in – only the outside edges would integrate, and then only drinking the coffee and adding fresh coffee would absorb more. The cup isn’t the USA; it’s just the immediate locale of a concentration of blacks, like the south after the end of slavery and Jim Crow (if it ever really ended). Of course, no analogy is perfect; what are the sides of the cup? The interface between the black and white worlds? Or the barriers separating Afro-Americans from ‘equal opportunity’? Break the sugar into lots of little lumps and add it to a lot of cups? Or put the big lump into a bigger cup, which will absorb it? The big cup is the USA of course – so why isn’t the big lump absorbed? Maybe because that ‘big cup’ doesn’t really exist in a heavily class-stratified society like the USA where social mobility is actually decreasing? The other alternative is to take the sugar lump out and put it back in the sugar bowl – maybe that’s what Duke and Farrakhan advocate? Seems a waste of sugar though, and think of all that bitter coffee that could do with a bit of sweetening! What! Am I suggesting that the Nordic master-race needs a leavening of negro blood? Lighten up, Adolf!

    1. LS, I am starting to think this whole idea of White separatism is just crap. We’ve already done White separatism in this damn country, and we are still doing it today in some places. It was voluntary then and it’s voluntary now. It sucked then and it sucks now. You have no right to segregate yourself racially, period.
      I am reading the link on sundown towns, which used terrorism, harassment, restrictive charters and real estate practices to keep them Whites only. White separatism means more of that. Fuck it.
      Farrakhan is a Black racist and Duke is a White racist. Both are separatists. The Black and White racists sometimes get along, because racists think alike in one way anyway. Black separatism would be a nightmare for Blacks. I am an integrationist. I say “a Black a block. Spread em out and civilize em.” Blacks benefit from being around Whites. When you get too many Blacks in one place, Africa takes over.

  2. “There are still some towns in the US South that are effectively Sundown towns for Blacks and few if any Blacks live there.”
    Well his list from California:
    http://www.uvm.edu/~jloewen/sundowntownsshow.php?state=CA
    include Compton… Compton, birthplace of gangsta rap? which bears the question, a Sundown town for whom..?
    It would appear for the most part this information is historical.. or to put it context…. there are quite a few towns in the US that are Sundown towns for whites.

    1. You need to click on the links and read up about each town. Compton was once an all-White sundown town in about 1940 or so but then it turned. That list contains both towns that WERE sundown towns and are no longer and a few towns that apparently still are. It looks like in California there are not many sundown towns left, though there may be a few. Check out the list for Texas and Nebraska though. Especially Texas.
      It’s well agreed that there are towns in the US that are sundown towns for Whites. Actually, it’s not even a great idea to go there in the daytime either.

  3. You need to click on the links and read up about each town.
    I did after the post…Compton is now effectively a sundown town for whites.
    Especially Texas.
    Ok I did. Sounds like people had problems similar to ones I’ve had in black neighborhoods. Two wrongs don’t make a right but let’s put this in context.

  4. LOL. I dont think so. I’ve actually been in one of the towns that’s on his list within the last few years and believe me, there are plenty of blacks who *live* there and have done so for decades. And moreover, most of his “sundown towns” are only historically so, and even he admits that they’re just like everybody else nowadays. I don’t believe for a single minute that there are any so called sundown towns anywhere in the US at this moment and I dont think Dr Loewen does either. The closest he comes is to say “don’t know”.

    1. No, you are wrong. Check on some of those towns in Texas. For sure there are still sundown towns in Texas. You know it. It’s getting harder to prove, because it’s illegal to be a sundown town anymore. They’re not so much sundown towns as places where Blacks cannot live or cannot live comfortably. And in many of them, Blacks get followed and pulled over by cops at night. Many of those towns, Blacks are still afraid to go to the them or stop in them to this day.
      Most of them are just historical though.

  5. Robert:
    Those who comment here on separating Whites from the darker races don’t seem to address how this would be accomplished worldwide.
    I get the gist of what some of them are saying. But I don’t get why they don’t seem to realize that THIS BOAT HAS SAILED. It’s too late to have “full and permanent” separation of races. Assuming you could have it in one country, what good are you achieving if whites are free to mix in other places?

    1. It’s too late. The dogs are off on the track and running and there’s no stopping them. The whole thing is just preposterous. They are right about one thing though, and that is if they are serious about preserving their race, they really do need to separate. Because mere exhortations to Whites to not mix will not cut it. Whites are so prone to mixing now that only enforced separation will prevent them from answering the call of the loins.

    2. To alpha unit:
      Those who comment here on separating Whites from the darker races don’t seem to address how this would be accomplished worldwide.
      Because I think for most white separatists they know that is simply not achievable. Their main focus is an enclave somewhere in the US. (if they are American..) There’s also a recognition that some (maybe most/many depending upon economic and social dynamics ) whites would want to remain in a mixed society. For the most part the attitude is good luck and good bye.
      It’s too late to have “full and permanent” separation of races.
      For most of sub-Saharan Africa and Asian for the most part that isn’t true and likely will remain untrue.
      Assuming you could have it in one country, what good are you achieving if whites are free to mix in other places?
      Because obviously some people want to mix. Fine let them. It’s about some modicum of control of your environment and culture.

  6. It’s too late. The dogs are off on the track and running and there’s no stopping them. The whole thing is just preposterous.
    The Soviet Union split apart as did Yugoslavia.. why do you think that a similar future event in the US based upon racial and ethnic lines is a preposterous idea..?
    As I said before in a post I think the first to initiate such a move would be non-whites.

    1. Because you’re on the wrong side of history. White separatism is similar to apartheid, segregation, sundown towns, housing and job discrimination, restrictive covenants, on and on.
      We’ve already done White separatism. It’s over and done with and we’ve moved on. Whites are way less racist now than they were when the above were popular and in effect and it declines by the year. There’s no going backwards. Those days are over. What makes you think White America is suddenly going to become as racist as it was in 1963? That’s what’s needed for your project to go forward. It’s hopeless.

  7. Stillwarm, why don’t you do a poll to see how many Americans support this idea? That’s the only that I ask of you. Otherwise you’re just talking out your ass really. Until you guys know how much support you have for this, there is no point in speculating.

  8. Because you’re on the wrong side of history. White separatism is similar to apartheid, segregation, sundown towns, housing and job discrimination, restrictive covenants, on and on.
    As for the right (or wrong) side of history, I thought I had posted here that one day I thought it would be likely that I would move out of the United States for a while and live in a country that was predominantly not European. I sort of have Fred Reed’s attitude. Not exactly one where I am pounding my chest for an all white enclave.

    1. So Uncle Milton, you really are a race realist and not a White nationalist, right? I mean all White nationalists are de facto White separatists. And if you can handle living in a non-White country, how racist could you be anyway?
      Fred Reed is a race realist, not a White nationalist, and certainly not a White separatist. I think very highly of the man.

  9. Wrong side of History?
    As a WN I can tell you that these things can be rolled back.
    Radical Reconstruction in the South was rolled back by the Klan, Jim Crow, and the arrival of Scientific Racialism.
    A very similar process could play out today. (indeed months, or even years ago Prozium wrote a whole Blog Post on this, can’t seem to find it somewhere).
    Anyhow I think some don’t fully understand the position of WNs.
    Alot of us are Defensive in Nature, not wishing to be taxed and exploited by Racial Others.
    Check out this WN FAQ: http://www.whitenationalism.com/wn/wn-06.htm

  10. This guy who shot up the Holocaust Museum today…was he someone who loved his race? Could any white person possibly respect or appreciate what this guy did?

  11. A lot of areas are “sundown” areas for whites or actually all non blacks. In fact some areas are defacto off limits for non blacks even in the light of day. Some examples include but are not limited to areas of New Orleans, Detroit, Gary in, NYC, dc, Jacksonville, and St. Louis.

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