It’s not very often that we get celebrity commenters on the blog, but Gilad Atzmon stopped by the other day to comment on the Fuck Off Israel thread, which seems to be breaking all records with 182 comments so far.
If you do not know who Atzmon is, he is an author and a jazz musician. This Wikipedia article should sum him up well. He is Jewish and is a former resident of Israel, now an expat living in the UK. He is quite controversial, and there has been a big fight about him on the British Left concerning whether or not he is a Jewish anti-Semite.
It’s clear that he is not an anti-Semite at all on a personal level as he has Jewish members in his band. This alone sets him apart from most anti-Semites, most of whom simply dislike most to all Jews period on a personal level. This is one of the lies of the Super Jews – that there are all these horrible anti-Semitic neo-Nazis running around saying, “Some of my best friends are…” Forget it. I know these people. They don’t like Jews – any Jews.
I think that primarily Atzmon is just an anti-Zionist Jew who is trying to figure out why Jewish Zionists act like they do, and his analysis has taken him into some funny places.
I would suggest that if Atzmon wants to find out what motivates his fellow Israelis, he should consult anthropology texts. There is nothing unique about Zionist behavior. It’s simply normal tribal behavior for human beings. This is the way that human tribes act, the way they have acted for thousands of years and the way they will continue to act until we detribalize mankind.
The more ethnocentric the tribe, the more likely it will display these typical tribal behaviors. There is nothing uniquely evil about the Jews only in that there is something uniquely evil about mankind. This is a major flaw of anti-Semitic critique.
For those unfamiliar, the Bund was one of the original Jewish trade union political formations in Russia. It was very leftwing. I always liked them, but I knew an Arab Communist member of the PFLP who really hated the Bund.
Terminology wise, ….Rather than being an anti Semite, which is a very misleading title, I am anti Jewish (ness), I oppose Jewish ideology right left and centre.I do not have a problem with Jewish people and I tend to agree that a Jewish cab driver or my Jewish band members have nothing to do with the crime committed in the name of the Jews.
I refrain from criticising Judaism, though I expose some inhuman narratives within the biblical context. It is actually the current implementation of these thoughts that is so devastating.
It is the transformation of the Bible from a spiritual text into a land registry which I oppose.
Jewish nationalists in the Left and in the Right are complicit in a similar racially orientated tribal activism.
This applies to Zionists and to the Bund!!!
The crime of Zionism is well established. The problem with the Bund had been explored by Lenin in 1903.
The relevant text are available on line.
I am actually far from being an opponent of Marxism or Bolshevism. I do differentiate between ideology and praxis.
I can live in peace with Marxism as long as it promotes brotherhood and universal thought.
I believe that materialism and class politics are far too restricting. Both are failing to explore the complexity of humanity and human landscape.
The danger with left ideology is the product of some dogmatic tendencies.
I believe in humanity, I believe in the spirit of freedom, I believe in philosophy as in love of wisdom.
I do not find much of it in the institutional left discourse.
Thus, I operate alone, and I am rather happy.
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“There is nothing unique about Zionist behavior. It’s simply normal tribal behavior for human beings. This is the way that human tribes act, the way they have acted for thousands of years and the way they will continue to act until we detribalize mankind.”
Whoa now…in a recent post you stated that “Zionism is a racist inhuman ideology”…now you are claiming that there is nothing wrong with Zionist behavior? So which is it?
I’m not saying there is nothing wrong with it. I am saying it is “normal” for human tribes to act like a bunch of fucking Nazi psychos. It’s normal for guys to beat their wives. It’s normal to have homicide, rape, theft in human populations. Normal meaning typical, not normal meaning ok.