Repost from the old site. Well, not quite, but sort of. At least in many Mediterranean types and other Europeans, White Americans, North Africans and Arabs. Let’s take a look. The link is dead now, but from this dead link:
Middle Eastern/Arab Group Black Iraq (Jews) 0.0 Iran (Jews) 0.0 Sephardic Jews 0.0 Yemen (Jews) *4.0 Bedouin 4.3 Iraqis *4.5 Syrians 5.0 Jordanians *7.0 Palestinians 8.8 UAE 11.1 Saudis *13.5 Omanis 16.0 Qataris *16.0 Yemenis (Sana) *17.5 Yemenis (Hadramawt) 19.0
* I had to recalculate the Another study showed Black Y-DNA: Palestinians, 10.3Jordanian Bedouins. These people are 4.3This group, the Bedouins, appears to be a very ancient Caucasian group, though I can’t seem to prove it – it’s just a hunch of mine. They are on the borders genetically between Blacks and Caucasians, along with Yemenis, Arabians, Berbers, Algerians, the Beja, and Nubians.Ethiopians are in there too somewhere, but they are clearly into the Black category, although they are best thought of as an intermediate group between Blacks and Caucasians. Bedouins are one of the most divergent genetic groups in the Caucasian race. Bedouins are the original Jordanians, and they still run the state. 70
In the Arab World, or at least in the Gulf, most of the Black genes seem to have come in on the mother’s side. This implies that Arab men were having sex with Black slave girls, given the normative Black-Arab relationship of slave-master in the Gulf for far too long. There is much less Black paternal DNA, which means that Black slaves were not having sex with that many Arab women.A very dark-skinned, yet nevertheless very Caucasian-looking Syrian woman. Syrians are about 5A Yemeni man. We have Yemenis near where I live; they run the local stores. They are clearly a mostly-Caucasian people, but they do have about 19 This is a very ancient region, and Yemen is probably where the first people came out of Africa. It is surely where the first proto-Caucasians left Africa also. There are still some Negritos here in the Mahra region who are probably the remnants of the original humans that left Africa 70,000 years ago. They are called Black Yemenis, and are treated horribly by the Arabs. There is a high value put on whiteness in Yemen. A young man who works at the local market tells me that he hates summer because he turns so dark from the sun. In Yemen, dark is bad, White is good. I try to tell him that he lives in Mexifornia now and Brown is the new White, but I’m not sure if he believes me. These guys forbid their women from working and their Mom chooses a future wife for them. Mixing between the sexes outside of marriage is strictly forbidden. Some of the young women have abandoned the hijab, but they’re hardly liberated. There’s no trouble at all from these Yemenis or from the sizable Palestinian population nearby. In fact, they are a Hell of a lot better behaved than the local Hispanics, and the IQ’s of Iraq and Palestine are quite a bit below US Hispanics. Surely there is more to acting civilized and having good morals and manners than IQ. I really like these Yemeni guys; they are a lot of fun. Good people all around.
Since the links are dead, I’m open to anyone who wants to research this issue further.Abir Aramin, a Palestinian. I assume this is a girl? Anyway, Palestinians are 8.8
Spaniards and Portuguese are about 4 Arabs are in serious denial about their Black heritage, and this is a real sore issue with them, so don’t try to bring it up. Some Arabs take great pride in being White and many others could care less. In Yemen, lighter skin is much prized and darker skin is not good. I looked an older Yemeni man I know straight in the eye recently and said, “You guys are White, just like me,” and watch his smile light up the heavens (We were discussing the Negritos that supposedly live in the Mahra region of Yemen).Check out Rashida Jones – 35 She look “non-White” to you?
US Blacks are virtually another race apart from Africans, so it is about time we quit conflating the two of them. US Blacks Whiter than others: Louisianans (the Cajuns above) are 22 There was no epidemic of slave masters have sex with slaves. Only a few White Southerners mated with Black females. Instead, through US history, about 3 There was probably very little Black male – White female mating until recently. Prior data suggested that US Blacks were 30 North Africa is definitely part-Black. From a dead link once again:North African Group Black Algerian Kabilyes 1.5 Moroccan Berbers 5 Algerian Berbers 10 Moroccan Arabs 13 North African average 13 Mauritanians 44 Sahelians 44 Tauregs 82
The first six are mostly-White (the next two only barely) but the last, Tauregs, are mostly Black, looking similar to US Blacks. Mauritanians and Sahelians are similar to Ethiopians, who are 56 The figures for Black admixture are possibly discouraging to White nationalists, but considering that 90European/Eurasian Group Black Georgia (Jews) 0 Kurdish Jews 0 Ashkenazi Jews 0 Azerbaijan 0 Armenia 0 Georgia 0 Nogay .2 Russia *0.2 Poland *0.2 Slovakia *0.2 Czechoslovakia *0.2 Corsica 0.4 Northern Italy 0.5 Austria 0.5 Turkey 0.5 Britain 0.7 Central Italy 0.8 Italy (Tuscany) 1.2 Turkey (Istanbul) 1.4 Italy (Calabria) 1.5 Germany 1.7 Italy (Apulia) 1.9 France 2.0 Spain (Cantabrian Pasiegos) 2.0 Kurds 2.0 Italy average 2.1 Albania 2.1 Cyprus (Turk) 2.1 Spain average 2.2 Corsica 2.3 Spain (Galicia) 2.5 Iberian average 2.7 Central Portugal 3.6 Sicily (Ragusa) 3.7 Italy (Sardinia) 3.9 Italy (Calabrian Albanians) 4.1 Southern Spain 4.1 Southern Italy 4.2 Sicily (Castelammare) 4.2 Northern Portugal 4.3 Portugal average 4.4 Central Portugal 4.5 Greece 5.0 Italy (Sicily) 5.3 S. Portugal (Alentejo-Algarve) 5.8 Portugal (Madeira Islands) 6.5 Southern Portugal average 7.4 Sicily (Sciacca) 8.7
*These figures include mtDNA only and no Y-DNA, so I set Y-DNA at 0. No doubt the Y-DNA is miniscule to nonexistent. The Greek figure is very controversial. However, going by autosomal markers that typically show 5 I am confident that Greeks do have quite a bit of Berber, Arab and Phoenician blood in them though, and I am very suspicious of Pontikos Dienekes’ (Greek nationalist) work. The other argument, that Greeks have significant Black blood, is here.These are some classic Greek types – a classic Greek phenotype. Autosomal studies show that Greeks have ~5 A Greek nationalist named Dienekes Pontikos, along with a Southern Italian nationalist who runs the Racial Reality site, both of whom I formerly respected, are apparently behind some Net anthro fraud in which they are trying to pass off Greeks and Southern Italians off as some sort of “pure Whites”, I guess as a sop to White nationalists, or so they can be White too. They have laid into the Kemp paper and an Internet jihad against it has unfolded. Unfortunately, there is far more evidence for Black genes in Greeks than a single paper by a guy named Kemp. Indeed, the evidence is quite overwhelming. Both Racial Reality and Dienekes are generally fine sites, but when it comes to their own ethnic group, the insanity rule of ethnic nationalism applies: ethnic nationalism drives the sanest people completely nuts. The whole enterprise is absurd. Greeks and Italians are clearly Caucasians and, if you will, Whites. Yes, they have a bit of Black blood in them, but not much. Is this really the end of the world, guys? An Azeri man from Azerbaijan. The US is trying to foment an Azeri separatist movement in Iran, but it’s not going to go anywhere. The Iranian regime is disgusting and bans all languages other than Persian from school, but other than that, most Azeris don’t want to leave. For one thing, they run the country. Ahmadinejad, Khomeini, Khatami, Khameini, and most of the top leadership have long been Azeris. It was actually Iranian Azeris who created the Safavid Shia state that modern Iran is based on back around 1600 and they have been running the show ever since. Why secede? What for? These people do not have any Black in them that I am aware of. Maybe future studies will find some.
As you can see, Black admixture in Europeans is concentrated in the Iberian peninsula, and even there, the levels are quite low. At levels like this, we often see no observable Black phenotype at all. I think it is funny that those big, tough German White nationalists have more Black in them than those greasy Calabrians (Southern Italians just to the north of the Sicilian boot) that they despise so much. That’s rich! The truth is that Italians and especially Greeks have quite a bit of Berber, Arab and Phoenician in them, and this for the most part accounts for their darker features. There’s not a whole lot of evidence that either group has much Black genes in them. Note that the European BlackThe father of Ardent, a blogger who runs the interesting Ardent Observations blog and is also an acquaintance of mine. She is of Turkish-Cypriot ancestry and lives in Australia. This is a photo of her father, who left Cyprus as a single young man and hopped a ship to Australia barely knowing a word of English. Some local Turks grabbed him when he landed, got him a job and a place to stay and eventually he raised a family there. I think it is interesting that he looks as White as any White American around. Actually, he looks like my own father did when he was young. My father is German-French. Ardent notes in the comments section at the end of this post that people used to tell her father that he looked Slavic, but he did not appreciate that, as he was a Muslim, and the Ottomans and Slavs were enemies for centuries. It’s interesting that Turks seem to have one of the lowest Black gene But it looks like the whole Anatolian/Caucasus region has received very few Black genes. Black genes made it to Syria and Iraq in the south and to Greece in the West, but seem to have halted there. Germans have 70 Turks are a very interesting people genetically. They are Caucasians, at least according to me anyway, and they can easily be classed as the same European White subrace as Europeans. Turks don’t seem to give a damn if people think they are White or not though, probably due to long-standing hostility between the Muslim Ottomans and Christian Europe. In other words, to be a White Turk is to be the same person as a Christian European, and not only do Turks like to think of themselves as different, but Christian Europe was an enemy for centuries. Some White nationalists say that 30-50 There is extensive commentary from Ardent and a light-skinned US Black woman who has spent a lot of time in Turkey about Blacks and Turkey. The Black woman says that Turkey is one of the most Black-friendly countries she has ever lived in. Turks don’t seem to have much racism towards Blacks, for whatever reason. She also met an Iranian man who told her that Iran was a quite Black-friendly country too. Apparently many Turks had Black servants in recent times and in Ottoman times there were many Black slaves in addition to the famous White Circassian Beauties. The female Black slaves were often encouraged to abort when they were made pregnant by a Turk, and the male slaves were often castrated. She also said some Iraqis were very friendly to her, so prejudice against Blacks is surely not universal in Iraq, and there are Iraqis with obvious Black ancestry in the Shia South. White nationalists like to say that most ethic groups despise Blacks as if it is some sort of a universalism. That’s apparently not true in the case of Arabs, Iranians and Turks anyway.
Here is the data that I used to arrive at these conclusions. You’re free to go through it if you wish and see if you come up with something similar: mtDNA data: Wikipedia mtDNA – Portugal (Madeira Islands) – 13 Most North Africans are 13 A study by Gonzalez et al. 2003 found L haplogroups at rates of 0.1 Note that these figures do not count the L3 lineage, which may be of ancient introduction and so remains ambiguous. For comparison, sub-Saharan mtDNA runs 21.8 According to another study by Pereira et al. 2005 sub-Saharan mtDNA L haplogroups were found at rates of 0.62 The frequency is clearly higher in Portugal (32 sequences in 549 individuals; 5.83 Y-DNA data: Y-DNA Sub-Saharan African Y-chromosomes are much less common in Europe, for the reasons discussed above. However, Haplogroups E(xE3b) and Haplogroup A spread to Europe due to migrations from Northeast Africa, rather than the slave trade. In some of the data below, E-M35 is included. The haplotypes have been detected in Northern Portugal, 6 By contrast, North Africans have about 5 James Schipper comments in the comments section:
If only 1 out of 33 black women per generation was impregnated by a white male, then only about 1 out 33 x 7 = 231 white males per generation impregnated a black woman. So much for the argument that lots of white men were having sex with black females. You know that it is the dose that makes the poison. To paraphrase that, it is the admixture that determines the classification. Let’s take 5 mixtures of beer and wine. A is 96 Likewise, calling the Portuguese Whites despite their black admixture of about 4 Let’s use an analogy. We don’t call German a Latin language even though maybe 5
He is surely correct. One of the main reasons that any kind of White nationalist movement is doomed to fail in the US is due to the WN’s insane failure to include Iberians, Italians, Serbs, etc. The number of WN’s who insist that Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks and Serbs are not White is very large, and it usually seems like a large majority on most forums. WN deserves to fail anyway because it’s nothing but racist bullshit, but this will just insure its grave for sure. Now, the sort of race realism that Fred on Everything is pushing is usually completely sane and is likely to go over well. Further, it’s possible that his POV is largely devoid of anything that can meaningfully be called racism. He used to ride along with big city cops a lot, so he knows the inner city very well. He’s got some very interesting arguments about what do about the public schools. He lives in Mexico and apparently loves Mexicans just fine. He thinks it’s really stupid to let them swarm in here by the millions. Fred notes that in Mexico, the illegals are considered the least desirable elements of that society. I am not sure what Fred means by that, but you can use your imagination. The whole idea of immigration is to pick the cream of the crop. There’s a possibility that we are doing the opposite with regard to Mesoamerican mass illegal immigration. WN’s have turned their back on Fred, apparently because he married a Mexican woman! That makes him a race traitor in their lunatic eyes. So you can see right now that with built-in faults like that, this is a doomed movement. This research takes a lot of time, and I do not get paid anything for it. If you think this website is valuable to you, please consider a a contribution to support more of this valuable research.Please follow and like us: