Hell Is Other People

So said John Paul Sartre. Never mind that this statement has been misunderstood and misappropriated by misanthropes.
I’m not usually into misanthropy, though I suppose some folks have a legitimate beef with the rest of humanity. I’m actually quite a proud person, and don’t generally have low self-esteem. I’ve recently met some low self-esteem types, and they mystify, horrify and offend me.
Even if some of my skills are apparently now quite poor, I still think I’m quite the hot stuff overall and deep down inside. This can create problems of its own, and I spent a lot of effort trying not to feel better than other people on some fundamental level. Arrogance, as good as it feels, simply doesn’t work, since all it does is make everyone hate you, but no arrogant person on Earth has ever figured this out, as you may have noticed.
I often feel perfectly at peace, calm, joyously happy and fulfilled, just reading stuff, writing, doing research, or working out theory. I can be perfectly alone for hours or even days at a time like this. It’s not that I dislike others, but that in order to truly love being comfortably alone, you must like yourself. If you hate yourself, surely it must be gruesomely painful to be psychically kidnapped and forced to cohabit with your own awfulness, with no one else around to salve the pain.
It so happens that I’m neither schizoid nor a real loner, and I do have affiliative needs. So I need to get at least once a day and go meet some other humans, even if only for a bit. It’s like a sociability injection. I get that, it feels good or it doesn’t, but anyway it was necessary, then I can go back to the glorious cave again.
Problem is that when I go out, I’m often not as happy as when I’m alone. Why? Other humans. They usually let me down. And especially, try as I might, they often don’t treat me like I want to be treated. Obviously it’s my fault nevertheless, but that doesn’t mean it’s not at least a bit of a drag.
Nothing against people per se, mind you – if the interactions would be as pleasant as I would wish it to me, I might linger for hours, or all day, Hell, why not? But it never is anymore. So it ends up that much of the misery I acquire from life seems to come from other humans, surely not from my perfectly great self.
It is at such times that the poetry of the great British poet Philip Larkin illuminates things well. Philip lived alone his whole life, never married or had kids, and had only one chair at his table. To visitors, the message, seeing that one chair, was unmistakable. Hopefully, they would not be staying long?
This is no philosophy to base your life on, but most of us have flashes of misanthropy now and again. If things get too bad, you can always get a cat.
I don’t know the name of this Larkin poem, but it’s pretty funny.
They fuck you up, your mum and dad,
they may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had,
and add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn,
by fools, in old style hats and coats,
who half the time were sorry stern,
and half at one anothers' throats.

Man hands on misery to man,
it broadens like a coastal shelf.
So get out as quickly as you can,
and don't have any kids yourself.

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38 thoughts on “Hell Is Other People”

  1. Sartre is a jew who sat out the war in Paris under german occupation. Why diden’t Sartre get gassed?
    The holahoax is a fraud, a lie and it will take less than ten second to prove it. Are you ready?
    Zyklon-B is a highly explosive gas and there are five meters, 5 yards between the furnaces and the “gas chamber” in Auschwitz.
    That is like you fill up your car with gas and light a cigarette at the same time – you just don’t do that. To put a gas chamber with a higly explosive gas next to a furnace is like walking around in a gas station wiht a blowtorch. Would you do that?
    Nobody but a village idiot can belive that the germans are that dumb that they placed a gas chamber filled with high explosive gas next to a furnace.
    The “gas chambers” is a fraud – the holohoax.
    “The Process of Modern Day Cremation Video 1 of 2”
    o2:20 What is left is Not ashes … but bone fragments.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ynU6aTzac
    Video and books online, full text library about the Global Jew Mafia.
    http://hoff2.wordpress.com

  2. Sort of on topic – maybe YOU should get out more, heg! LS
    I’m not sure what you mean here, but I’m out downtown every day, almost, and speak to a lot of people.
    It was you Robert who wrote about a jew first – not me. Sartre is a well known figure thanks to the jew owned propaganda machine called MSM, MainStreamMedia. Jews do always promote other jews, this is the reason why there are so many known jews, Fraud and Einsteal are other exampel of jewish propaganda.
    Just Sartre and the other jews around him are interesting because this wellknown jews sat out the world war 2 in Paris in the bars, eating, drinking and writing, at the same time we are told that all the jews in France was rounded up and send to the prisoncamps in Poland.
    This is a very clear exampel how dumb we really are. All the facts are there but we have a big problem to put the pieces togheter. The dreaded “naaazzis” could get Satre and all the other jews around him at any time – but they diden’t. Go figure!
    A small group of mafia jews are buttfucking America and the whole world and you don’t want to know?!
    He-she? is butt ugly but I really like this song and the lyric says how the world really works. Annie Lennox – Sweet dreams…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoeFzjaG7Zs

  3. “Bobcat auto loading” – This is really cool. I’m a pretty good driver myself and given the opportunity I could make this. Just to see the faces of people after a stunt like this would be like a bucket of gold.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUvcrL9ojjo&eurl=http://bil.feber.se/art/52055/bobcat_lastar_sig_sjlv/
    “Backhoe Loader (Excavator) Dance- markoló táncoltatás” – if you can do that you are a pretty good driver.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZtraEmbLDQ&NR=1

  4. I’m not sure about all this, “He needs to get out more,” stuff. I used to say it myself, but I’m not so sure anymore. If you’re happy, be happy. If you’re happy alone, be alone. If you’re happy with people, be with people. If you’re unhappy alone, go out and socialize. If you’re unhappy with people, go home.
    Doesn’t that add up?

  5. Why do you think he damaged the bobcat?
    When the jew thughs attacks anyone that is criticising the criminal jews they alway start out with portraying the jew-wise people as misrably lone wankers that lives in trailers.
    Well, I’m not that and I do talk to a lot of people on a daily basis. I don’t have a dog, but we have had german sheepard all my life from age two. What I did just the other day was to buy some dog candy called Frolic. It’s just like a donut (I don’t like donuts) but am inch wide. The dog that don’t love Frolic dog candy ain’t born.
    And do you know what? The femal dog owner gets happier than the dog 8D))) Dog candy is a pussy-magnet 8D))))))
    Dog candy is cheap, just get a jar, fill it with dog candy and you are in business 9D)

  6. Sorry, Heg – I overlooked that Robert mentioned Sartre. and you’ve got a sort of point. But was it not the case that the French by and large protected their own jews, but assisted with tracking down and handing over refugees from elsewhere in Europe? Sartre is a stone bore, by the way.
    As to other people not treating us as we like – well, that’s life, to be banal. But, if everyone treated us as we like, then there’d be no surprises, nothing to learn, no real company – we might as well be alone. you’ve got to risk losing, to win; risk being hurt to know love; give and take – all that timeless wisdom of the ages. I know you know all that.
    Talking of wisdom of the ages and jews – once, in a moment of existential angst, I opened my Bible ( I’m not religious but I like to have a copy to check what it says, and because it’s the core text of Western Lit.) at random looking for guidance ( on the offchance that there is a God and he takes an interest in me – this was a long time ago) . I found myself reading a page of the Old Testament (Torah) – it gave the following advice (loosely): ” if you need a number 2 (shit) in the middle of the night, don’t just do it beside where you sleep, but do it on a little paddle (spade, I assume) and take it outside the circle of the camp, and bury it “. I was greatly bemused by this, but years later it came back to me, and it occurred to me that the message was : ” stop shitting over everyone! ” What do you think? A message from on high. or just an example of what the great pseudo-psychologist gobshite, Jung, called ‘synchronicity’?

  7. More like the age old wisdom of don’t shit where you sleep. Even animals don’t do that. We say that about people who live like slobs.
    “Other people not treating us as we like,” that’s what Sartre actually means by, “Hell is other people,” if you read that linked site. They don’t really validate us in the way that we want to be validated, and we really do need their validation, even though we wish we did not. So it’s a constant source of frustration for us humans. No Exit is great. Three people die and are sent to Hell, only to find that they are locked in a small room with only each other for company forever. They quickly find that they are quite capable of being one another’s worst enemies.
    I actually did Sartre, because I am into existentialism, but he is definitely hard to figure out.

  8. No hard feelings 8o)
    If you missed that you are one slobby reader. It’s in the first sentence after the headline: “So said John Paul Sartre.”
    But was it not the case that the French by and large protected their own jews, but assisted with tracking down and handing over refugees from elsewhere in Europe? LS

    Napoleon tried to take Jerusalem and give it to the jews. He lost the battle and went home and in 1799 Napoleon invited all the jews in the world to France. He wanted Paris to be the New Jerusalem. Where ever the jews go they try all they can to get minority rights, in essence the jews shall be above the law. Special laws for special people you know …
    The jews got those special laws in France. I don’t really know that much about jews and France … Damn it LS, now I have to read about jews and France. But I know that many jews fleed to France during ww2 and that they lived openly as jews. Whu diden’t Hitler round up Satre and all the jews in France?
    ——
    Sartre is a stone bore, by the way. LS
    I never botherd read him anyway, the right choice it seams. Many people will do a remark from famous people to pretend that they know more than they do, I diden’t say Robert did that. Once you get jew-wise you start to look everywhere for jews and many of those famous people “happends” to be jews.
    Well, this is nothing that just “happends” to be so, it’s jewish propaganda. It works this way, jews promot other jews and tells people: If you read him or her, you belong to the educated and intellectual class. Now you have gullible people that don’t know anything about jews reading what jews is writing.
    The jews only promot jews that are good for the jews. What happends now is that the selfproclaimed “intellectual”, these are the shit for brain PC-people, start to indoctrinate themself with jewish thinking, and on top of that some jews make a lot of money selling those books.
    Next thing is that those “intellectuals” start showing around that they at least have read the backcover so that they know a sentence or two from say Satre. This person he, she speaks to about this “happends” to be a jew. There are many jews in the “intellectual ” circles, and this jew tells the gullible goy that Satre is a jew.
    Next thing is that the gullible goy thinks jews are a wunderful and intellectual people. This is one major reson why the “elite” goes along with the jew mafia.
    How many times in your life have you heard or read a referer to Satre, Freud, Warhole etc that are jews and are always portrayed in the best light there is?
    Don’t we goyim have any good people? Of course, but what the jews have done is just the same as in politics, all goyim that are good for goyim and bad for the jews are more or less banned and kicked out of the public life – replaced with jews and a few goyim that are good for the jews.
    We have to throw de deceitful and lying jews out of oure mind. This is very easy, when the jew mafia propaganda-machine is all over in joy of someone or something, then it’s good for the jews and in essence bad for goyim.
    Anyone that the jews mock is good for the jews.
    —–
    If you really want to know what the jews are up to you must read their paipers. I do that all the time. A month ago I read abot how the jews had taken over one of the palestinians officie. The jeww¨paper wrote that there was not one single thing left that was not broken or stolen – and there was piles of shit all over the place. The jews even shitted in the copy machine.
    The jews seems to have a thing or fifty about shit.
    “… and it occurred to me that the message was : ” stop shitting over everyone! ”
    I don’t know anything about Jung but if the jews promote him it’s pseudo”science”. What this jewish psyco-babble is all about is to mindcontrol the stupid goyim, and most jews as well.

  9. I do know that Sartre is nuts when it comes to anti-Semitism. Sartre concocted this bizarre theory about anti-Semitism that the reason Gentiles hate Jews so much is that Jews are so good-looking! LOL. Now, I’m not saying that Jews are ugly or anything, but I doubt if they are better looking than anyone else.
    Anyway, according to Sartre, Gentiles are so fuckin ugly, and Jews are so handsome and gorgeous and all, that it really pisses Gentiles off to be winners in the Uglystakes. So they twist this all around and hate the Jews, but they won’t admit why they really hate them (jealous of their movie star looks), so they invent all these weird reasons to cover up for the real reason.
    I’ve been on forums with Jews where these smart actually subscribe to this theory. They throw it out there and all these other Jews start acting real smart, nodding their heads and going, “Yeah, yeah…” LOL, some people will believe anything.

  10. About shitting in the Pallies’ office, yeah, the IDF does that. They took over that office and just shit everywhere. They actually lived there for awhile with all that shit for some time. Must have smelled awful. The IDF also takes over mosques and goes in there and shits all over the mosques. Man, that pisses the Muslims off so much! And in Lebanon, the IDF used to take over the homes of local Arabs and just shit everywhere. They would rub shit all the walls. They especially liked to shit in the beds. They would also shit inside of pillows – inside the pillow covers. I hear they also booby-trapped kids’ toys, but I don’t have details on that.
    Arabs and Muslims do some messed up stuff, but I’ve never heard about them shitting on their enemies’ stuff.

  11. I do know that Sartre is nuts when it comes to anti-Semitism. Sartre concocted this bizarre theory about anti-Semitism that the reason Gentiles hate Jews so much is that Jews are so good-looking! LOL. Now, I’m not saying that Jews are ugly or anything, but I doubt if they are better looking than anyone else.
    —–
    LMFBO Typical jews, they will make anything up why jews are not very popular – except what they really are, the most crimianal people on earth.
    You see how the jews treat the pallis, thats how the jews have behaved at all times when they come to power.
    Thx Robert “Gentiles hate Jews so much is that Jews are so good-looking!” I will throw that in the face of anyone claiming that Satre was a good jew.

  12. If the holocaust was a hoax, how do you esplain all the GI’s and others that discovered the ovens, gas chambers, bodies, emciated prisoners and various and sundry paraphenalia of extermination? How to esplain the pictures, films, voluminous notes some taken by the liberators and some produced by the Nazis themselves?
    How do u esplain the survivors testimonies? Are they all liars, carefully coached in order to get their stories to coincide?
    Anti-semitism is the greatest gift to zionists. It’s feeds them and gives them power and motivation. It’s manna from earth. Robert has pointed this out before on this blog.
    The zionists just blew up 2 schools where little children were taking refuge..UN run shelters. They killed 33 children. The UN had told the IDF that the schools were housing children and even gave them the GPS coordinates. The IDF deliberately targeted those schools. They also are reportedly using experimental bomblets that don’t throw shrapnel but use a pressure-wave from a new generation of HE to rip off the victims limbs..those that live have provided the evidence and testimony.
    That’s what anti-semitism fuels, that kind of diabolical cruelty.
    So hoff2, don’t go off on “Jews”, stay away from perjoratives, criticize the uber-nationalist zionists in Israel. They are real boogeymen. There’s many diaspora and many Israeli Jews that don’t agree with the policies of their govt towards the Palestinians. Jews are people, like everyone else. people are complex and varied.
    Robert, that entry was very well written. Thanks.

  13. Well, if you read what I really write is THE JEW MAFIA. I never blame all jews
    The jew mafia lifeblood is “antisemitism”. If they don’t have any jewhat they creat jewhate. So you can criticise the jews anyway you want, they will accuse you of being a Nazi, because that is what the nonsense word “antisemit” really mens.
    Those jews who throw the A-word around them are the mafia jews. Anyone that do exactly as the mafia jews tells them are a Nazzii in their little bigoted world. In those jews world ALL non-jews are Nazziiss. Very few goyim, non-jews passes the jews needl eye and are called righteous gentiles. They are fewer than a hundred and normally the jews start to smear them right after they have been used up.
    Take Roosevelt as an exampel. He was president for 16 years and was surrounded by jews 24-7. The jew mafia claims he was a the A-word, Nazzii two weeks before he died. You can give them the earth plus 25 percent and they are still not satisfied. Whatever you give them is never enough.
    —–
    Yes there was dead bodies and yes there was gas chambers abundance all over in the camps. The lie is what those people died of and why there were gas chambers. Take one of the most wellknown camp Bergen-Belsen. There was 5.000 dead when GB took over the camp, the next month another 9.000 died too.
    Typhus is a fever and the earliest recorded Typhus was somewher in the 1500 centurie. Typhus followed wars, but none understud what caused the Typhus fever until 1880. They were not sure yet but they started to suspect that it was spread by lice.
    What happend is that you get bitten by the lice and then you scratch and the lice fecal contaminate you with Typhus fever. What happends next is that you get very sick. You can survive, it’s not one hundred procent a deth sentence to get Typhus fever.
    The next thing is that you get diarrhea and can’t keep the food. The next thing is that the body start to consume the bodyfat. When that is all gone the body start to eat the mucles. At the end you are nothing but skin and bones.
    Now, look at any picture or movie about the camps and look at the dead – they are all skin and bones – every single one.
    Typhus fever brook out two month before GB took over B-B, and all of the dead died from Typhus fever, NOT because deliberate starvation.
    All of those people died because the germans missed to send one trainlod of people to the gas chambers. The gas chamber was there to kill the Typhus lice. Zyklon-B is a bug spray, you can by it in any shop today. But under another name, but it works all the same – it kills bugs.
    And that is what the germans did, they gassed the Typhus lice. You must do it good because if ONE lice get pass, then you have a Typhus epidemic. All the people, the cloths, shoes, luggage, the train, in short everything including the german soldiers got gassed with Zyklon-B. The gas chambers had nothing to do with the jews.
    The reason for the gas chambers was to save life – not take life.
    But because we are so ignorant we are easy to fool and will belive most anything we are told. The jew mafia knows this and the jew mafia have deliberatly lied to the world that the gas chambers was all for the jews.
    The gas kills the lice, but not the lice egg. The egg is in the hair and the only rational way to deal with the egg is to give everyone a haircut and that the germans did. For a man it’s not that big deal to get shaved on the head, but it must been a trauma for a lot of women, but it had to be done.
    Of course the germans seperated men and women. You don’t force naked women to go to the gas chamber and to the shower after the gassing.
    The Red Cross came up with a 1.600 pages report and this report says that the total number of jews who died in all camps, of all kind of reason, during the whole campsystems ten year in use, a total of 270.000 jews died.
    Until someone can debunk that Red Cross report I refuse to belive in any six million dead jews during ww2. Period
    “4,000,000 deaths at Oswiecim” – is a lie!
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/system/topicRoot/Concentration_camps/
    “The site was added to the UNESCO World Heritage List in 1979.”
    http://www.auschwitz-muzeum.oswiecim.pl/html/eng/start/
    Just down mid page the plaques out side Auschwitz
    http://www.revisionists.com/revisionism.html
    The jewish “Kristallnacht” hoax fraud
    http://judicial-inc.biz/91krystallnacht_arrests.htm
    Facta om “kristallnacht”.
    http://inquery.ushmm.org/uia-cgi/uia_query/photos?hr=null&query=kw110003
    Jewish policemen during ww2 – many pictures
    http://inquery.ushmm.org/uia-cgi/uia_query/photos?hr=null&query=kw121879
    Ohhhh my god did those jews have a hard time in those ghettos during ww2.
    http://inquery.ushmm.org/uia-cgi/uia_doc/query/74?uf=uia_MWKJgI
    There are a lot of info here.
    http://hoff2.wordpress.com/

  14. The total number dead in Bergen-Belsen was 14.000. And the number is probably on the same scale or less for the rest of the camps. Horrible yes, but it is NOT proof that six million jews died during ww2.
    The naked bodies? The other prisoners stole the cloths and shoes. This is spring 45 and that was a very cold year. The winters during ww2 was extremaly cold, they are know to older people in Europe as the War winters.
    When you look at the picturs also look at the other prisoners, many of them are well feed and well clothed. At the end of the war the whole transportasionsystem brook down, food rations was down. The next thing that happend was that the stronger prisorners stole the food from the week. If they haden’t done that probably more hade survived.

  15. ” jews promot other jews and tells people: If you read him or her, you belong to the educated and intellectual class.”
    One thing that consistently annoys me is seeing jewish academics ( I wouldn’t call them intellectuals) calling Saul Bellow the greatest post-war American writer. Herzog is pompous, boring, banal crap, and I gave up on Henderson the Rain King because it was even worse. On the other hand, Kafka was a great original, the Yiddish writer Isaac Bashevis “Singer deserves his reputation I think, and Philip Roth is quite entertaining and quite, not very, good – I’ve always enjoyed the books of his I’ve read, but I always felt that he was pretentious, and basically on a lower intellectual plane to the detective writers like Walter Mosley ( 1/2 jew, 1/2 black), James Ellroy and a lot of others.
    “The jews even shitted in the copy machine…”
    I saw some YMCA internal newspapers around the time of the West Bank invasion that gave rise to the Jenin massacre; they were full of reports on the destruction of the YMCA buildings on the West Bank. They arrested and disappeared Arab YMCA staff, stole all the computers, trashed everything else, especially all personnel records, and then, yes, shit all over the place. They did this everywhere; they stole or destroyed all local government records, all birth, death, property certificates etc. They destroyed every project constructed with aid money. Every trapping of civilisation. Let anyone who thinks that the IDF is concentrating on Hamas targets in Gaza be disabused of that notion.
    ” What this jewish psyco-babble is all about is to mindcontrol the stupid goyim, and most jews as well. ”
    Philip Roth pointed out ( no, I can’t remember where ) that the most extreme post-modernists, feminists, gender theorists, dogmatic Marxologists, preposterous psycho-analysts etc are always jews. And look at the art world; galleries full of junk, because rich jews get tax breaks for them, and so they can fill them with anything they like, and put any price on any shit – it looks like a calculated insult to 3 thousand years of Western civilisation ( from Homer onwards). Kevin MacDonald and Israel Shamir have some interesting slants on this – the legacy of Talmudic studies has given them a rare talent for meaningless gibberish. The pomo bullshit and modern art are perfect examples of the Emperor’s new clothes syndrome – money says what’s good and bad. Even in science, it’s likely that Einstein will eventually be seen as a largely pernicious influence, giving rise to the modern tendency to untestable mathematical theories that dispense with things like cause and effect i.e. science that’s not science. I know that parts of Einstein’s work have provided some accurate predictions, like for the orbit of Mercury (was it?) but there are some serious criticisms of it, and the whole modern big bang cosmology – see the Thunderbolts of the Gods website at http://www.thunderbolts.info/ and look at the stuff on the Electric Universe, especially the books ‘the Electric Sky’ by Donald Scott, and ‘ the Electric Universe’ by David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill. this is serious stuff, supported by top electrical engineers and Nasa scientists – it’s about electrical plasma cosmology. But the Big Band and string theorists get the grants – you can bet your ass that the Chinese are discreetly beavering away at plasma cosmology right now. I have to note, though, that I find the ‘Thunderbolts of the Gods’ side of it less convincing.
    Science that isn’t science, art that isn’t art, and literature that isn’t literature (pomo) – and there’s a common thread through it all.
    Dano –
    ” If the holocaust was a hoax, how do you explain…. ”
    Well, there are many criticisms of all the ‘evidence’ you mention, but it is suppressed, with legal sanctions. I’m not going to go into that, but I’m not at all convinced that all these critics are nazis, and, even if they were, that doesn’t in itself invalidate their criticisms. The point is: who has had access to this ‘evidence’, and who CAN get access to this evidence, and what would happen to them if they came to different conclusions than the approved ones? Germar Rudolf is the answer. ‘Evidence’ is, by definition, something that can be evaluated; when the conclusion is prescribed in advance, then there is no evaluation, so it’s not really evidence. Incidentally, I have never come across ONE so-called ‘ denier’ who disputes that the jews were rounded up, treated appallingly, deported, and died in huge numbers.
    ” Jews are people, like everyone else. ..”
    When Jews have the economic and political clout proportional to their percentage of the US and European populations, then we might get serious, impartial studies of the ‘Holocaust’ evidence; until then everyone should be skeptical.

  16. I’ve spent hours reading the criticisms and the gas-chamber denials..my studies convince me that the coverup theories are empty. There’s just too much and too varied evidence and testimony..millions of Jews were exterminated by the Nazis..now you can talk about whether Hitler was aware of it, whether the meeting with Himmler, Heidrich et al was a final solution bull-session to plan the extermination, or exact numbers..but it’s all irrelavent. I don’t think it’s useful to reduce the enormous crime..which included communists, gays, slavs, gypsies and political prisoners to a sterile exercise in statistical precision. It happened. It was a crime on a gargantuan scale. It didn’t just amount to a stain on the soul of Germans, it was a stain on the soul of all us humans, as a species.
    I don’t like to go on about the holocaust because the subject has been pounded into the ground by the zionists and the constant re-telling and re-runs started to grate on me long ago. But it was brought up here so I’m commenting.
    I don’t understand what Jews having a disproportionate economic and political success baseline has to do with an adequate public examination of the history of WW2..unless you mean there’s a conspiracy to suppress evidence and/or a muzzling of skeptics, i frankly don’t see that..i was able to access everything the Holocaust revisionists and deniers have been producing by using the internet, and they don’t appear to be cowed by zionist name-calling. The Hasbara propaganda handbook doesn’t appear to have suppressed them much.
    Now for the points Hoff brought up.
    I wasn’t referring to the fact that the bodies were naked, the bodies were there. They’re on film, pictures and memories. There are meticulous records kept by the record-keeping-obsessive Germans, and i expect that those can be cross-referenced against records from police, gathering points, transpo-records, arrival records, confiscation reports of belongings and valuables, and that’s not even including other records kept by families themselves. You can read records of how many bodies could be cremated in each oven, per day, and see how mwny ovens were ordered and constructed. There’s a story that i’ve seen from numerous sourcings that at the beginning the germans just used heavy equipment to dig mass graves, but later that season the entire field was wet for an extended period of time, and the bodies were so thick and packed that geysers of putrid bodily fluids erupted out of the ground, embarrassing the tidy and secretive Germans..one report had Himmler himself being driven past the fields when this occurred. Cremation then became the norm.
    If the prisoners were being starved, then that’s just one more example of the Nazi cruelty. There was no need, there was plenty of food. I researched that. When soldiers liberated the camps and went into the surrounding villages houses and food stores, the cupboards were overflowing with food and supplies, the Germans treated their own people very well.
    The well-fed prisoners? It’s well known that some prisoners were assigned duties to help with the extermination. They were given good treatment and adequate food, in contrast to the detainees.
    Yes, the stronger prisoners stole food from the weaker ones, but there are also stories of weak and sick prisoners being hidden by the others and fed, often by taking a little from many’s rations. In any case the position they were in was a result of the Germans starving them. There are 1000;s of testimonies and recollections, and this is something that i imagine no-one is going to forget, right down to minor details.
    6 million, 5 million, 3 million..what diff does it make?
    The historical evidence is ubiquitous. The Nazi regime tried to exterminate the European jewish population. I don’t think they expected to be able to wipe out the culture and religion, they were aware of the diaspora, i can only guess that they were doing what they considered to be a local “housecleaning”, with the added effect of terror to keep the jews from re-immigrating for as long as possible. Confiscation of their possesions and assets was also probably a consideration.

  17. This is jewish propaganda lies. No four million died in Auschwitz. Stalin laid down a stone in 1948 that said Here died four million. Today that stone is replaced with another stone that say: Here died one million. That is minus three million – That is 50 percent of the jewish holohoax.
    Before the town Auschwitz was known as Oswiecim and that very town was the hub in the jewish white slave trade. The jew mafia bought and sold women as sex slaves – including jewish women.
    “4,000,000 deaths at Oswiecim” – is a lie!
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/system/topicRoot/Concentration_camps/
    “The site was added to the UNESCO World Heritage List in 1979.”
    http://www.auschwitz-muzeum.oswiecim.pl/html/eng/start/
    Just down mid page the plaques out side Auschwitz
    http://www.revisionists.com/revisionism.html

  18. Heg, I did not delete your post.
    For some reason, this blog wants me to moderate your comments. Do you have a bad reputation somewhere?
    Even subtracting 4 million down to 1 million, we can still get 6 million, or 5.7 million, as per my research. This is because the number killed is not dependent on going around adding up bodies in concentration camps. 6 million is derived from population studies on the Jews of Europe. The Nazis killed 75% of them. There were 8 million before the war and 2 million after. So we get 6 million.
    I agree with Dano, and I have also been through all of the data refuting the Denier stuff, and there is simply nothing there at all. Dano spent hours, but I spent months, on this. No wait, years. We both came up with the same stuff – there’s simply nothing there.
    The Deniers are definitely some of the most skillful liars on Earth, as devious and wicked as the Jewish caricatures they hate so much. And their project is truly diabolical – to deny the Holocaust in order to do it again, and *get it right* this time! It’s no mere coincidence that almost all Deniers are anti-Semites, and the overwhelming majority of them are also Nazis and fascists.
    The whole Holocaust story is hard to research because though the Nazis were evil, they were also very smart. They were out to kill of the Jews of Europe all right, but they were also intent on covering their tracks and plausible deniability as much as possible. This makes the whole area of research fraught with a lot of difficulty, but you start to figure out the dual nature of the project (Kill the Jews, but try to deny it and cover your tracks), pretty quickly.
    The truth is that there is no coverup. The whole Holocaust story is up for grabs by historians. It’s just that the Denier lies as so preposterous that almost no one pays attention to them. But there is a whole website called Nizkor set up, which nicely takes apart just about every single Denier Nazi lie out there.
    I’m really sorry that the Nazi war criminals got tortured though. That was a big mistake. Because the favorite Denier lie is that since they were tortured, they all lied. One more reason to oppose torture.

  19. There were gas chambers and many gas chambers, but the gas chambers was there to kill lice. Typhus fever is a dreded fever. According to one book the nr1 killer second to none. It was not to somewhere in the 1880s the doctors started to suspicious that it was a lice that was the carrier of the Typhus fever. It proved right and during ww One they had came up with the idea to gas the lice. They gassed on the Balkan, in Turkey and in China. Red Cross, english and american officials was involved. This was a major breaktrough so of course the medic of the whole world was interested. The lice comes with war and bad hygiene, so that was one reason it took so long to find the source. You just don’t find Typhus lice laying around.
    Typhus is a fever, not a sure death sentence, the medic say 10 to 40-50 percent dies from Typhus fever. They really don’t know and how should they really. The lice bits you and you start scratching and now the lice feces get inside your body, now you got Typhus fever. Next thing you get diarrhea, you can’t take in any or very little nutrition. You body is at high alert so where do it get nutrition from? The body fat, the body start to consume the body fat. When the body fat is gone, the body starts to consume the muscles.
    If you survive you are a living skeleton. If you die you are a dead skeleton and that is exactly what every single dead is in all those camps and the all died from Typhus fever.
    Just look at the bodies, they are all skin and bones and they died from Typhus fever. The one that is driving the caterpiller is a jew. He did that for propaganda.
    “ALAN JACOBS (THE CONCENTRATION CAMP OF BERGEN-BELSEN) 1945”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8F2UP4NXg8
    As i wrote, there were gas chambers abundant and this is how they work. Zyklon-B is a bug spray, you can buy it at your convenience store, just ask for bug spray. If you empty on in your kitchen all the flies will die and you will feel a little dizzy (if you have any lice they will also die). Zyklon-B is a highly explosive cyanid gas. If you empty three bug sprays in your kitchen and lit a match you are history. The alleged “gas chamber” in Auschwitz is five steps from the furnace.
    Germany was the worlds most advanced industrial nation at the time and they would place a “gas chamber” five step from the furnace and then fill up the “gas chamber” with high explosive gas?
    It happend just as it’s told, the train comes in, out of the train and men and women are seperated. The reason is easy to understand. First they had to take of all their cloths befor going in to the real gas chamber, you don’t force naked women togheter with naked men. After the delousing in the gas chamber next step is a hot shower to get rid of any leftovers from Zyklon-B. Meanwhile the cloths, shoes, luggage and the train is deloused other gas chambers, I told you there were many gas chambers.
    Zyklon-B kills the lice but not the lice egg. The lice lays the eggs in the hair. The only rational way to deal with this problem is to give everbody a haircut, and that the germans did. To a man to be shaved to the skin is something you can get over, but to the women it must been a trauma. But what choice did the germans have? If one lice or one egg got thru then they would have a Typhus epidemic.
    Most people who did get gassed diden’t understand what it was all about. They were scared and of course tried to avoid the whole thing. But then again, what choice did the germans have? If one lice or one egg got thru then they would have a Typhus epidemic. Those who refused was forced to do the haircut and some of course were forced into the gas chamber at gunpoint. But what choice did the germans have? If one lice or one egg got thru then they would have a Typhus epidemic.
    The west europa did not have Typhus lice, the east europa had Typhus lice. Poland was the border and Auschwitz wa chosen becauce all the railways went truh Auschwitz.
    The gas chambers did NoT have anything to do with the jews, every single person coming from the east to the west was gassed including the germans. They were gassed because the Typhus lice must be killed. There is nothing more to it. The horror tales that only jews was gassed is a plain lie.
    The simple truth is that the germans gas chambers saved life by the hundred thousand, if not by the millions.
    Two month before the war ended the Typhus fever hit Bergen-Belsen, and the reason why is that for some reason the germans missed to gas a trainload of people and there the Typhus was. If the germans haden’t missed to gas that trainload there would never been those horror pictures we all know. When the english took over Bergen-Belsen mid April 1945 there was 5.000 dead, mostly from Typhus. The next two months another 9.000 died, and they all died from Typhus fever.
    There were no deliberate starvation of the prisoners. What happend was that the transportationsystem brook down in the end of the war. There was food but the germans had to cut the rations. The week prisoner got robbed from their food, which of course killed some who might lived. The winters during ww2 was extremely could, among older people those winters are known as the War Winters. Why the dead diden’t have any cloths or shoes was because the other prisoners had taken them.
    Horrible pictures yes, but it is NoT what we are told they are. The total dead in Bergen-Belsen was 14.000 – not one million or hundreds of thousands – but 14.000. The same number is also the case in those camps that had a Typhus epidemic. But that is not proof of any industrialised mass killing.
    After the war the Red Cross published a 1.600 page report. That is One-Six-Zero-Zero pages. That Red Cross report claimed that a total of 270.000 jews had died in all camps, of all courses during the ten year the camps was in use under Hitler. After the war some two million germans was deliberatly killed by the Allied. Search the book “Other losses”. It was civilian germans that where killed, women, children, old people and men at all age. Many of those camp commanders were jews.
    There was 500.000 jews in Germany and Austria. 50 to 65 percent of them had emigrated, all according to jewish sources. According to the jews census there was 14 million jews in the whole world. According to the same source there was 15 million jews after the war. This is what the jews themself says. 1988 there was 18+ million jews in the whole world. Today 4,5 million jews has reparation from Germany as “survivor”.
    14 – 6 = 8, of them are 4,5 million “survivor”, that leaves 3,5 million jews who was never under Hitler’s jurisdiction. That is more jews than there was in America at the time. Credibility ZERO!
    Do you know how many jews there are in the whole world 2008 according to the jewish census? 13 million jews. That is minus five million jews sense 1988. Really, if the jews even can’t count the jews in the world with modern technology, how can they be so dead sure just six million jews died during ww2?
    How many dead jews? Pick any number.
    http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/plaques/
    Germany wanted to get rid of the jews and the zionist jews wanted the jews to emigrate to Palestine, so they worked togheter to do just that, make the jews leave Germany and all of Europe for Palestine. The problem was that most jews diden’t want to go to Palestine, so the zionist jews “helped” Hitler by …
    “By using the new atheist exile politics they [the Zionists] provoked and increased anti-Semitism in Europe which led to the Second world War. . . The worldwide boycott against Germany in 1933 and the later all-out declaration of war against Germany, initiated by the Zionist leaders and the World Jewish Congress. . . ” — Rabbi Schwartz, New York Times, Sept. 30, 1997
    “In 1937 Eichmann had visited Palestine on the formal invitation of a Zionist official.”
    http://www.real-debt-elimination.com/real_freedom/Propaganda/New_World_Order/nazis_and_zionists.htm
    The simple truth is that zionist was the only allowed party except the nazi party. The zionist jews worked closely togheter with the nazis before and during the war.
    The Transfer Agreement is Edwin Black’s compelling, award-winning story of a negotiated arrangement in 1933 between Zionist organizations and the Nazis to transfer some 50,000 Jews, and $100 million of their assets, to Jewish Palestine in exchange for stopping the worldwide Jewish-led boycott threatening to topple the Hitler regime in its first year. (Black is a jew)
    http://www.transferagreement.com/
    How many dead jews? Pick any number.
    http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/plaques/

  20. WordPress don’t seem to like me at all. Sloooooove, at my own blog also. Just posted a comment but don’t show. I diden’t mean you did it deliberatly, but by misstake.

  21. There were gas chambers and many gas chambers, but the gas chambers was there to kill lice. Typhus fever is a dreded fever. According to one book the nr1 killer second to none. It was not to somewhere in the 1880s the doctors started to suspicious that it was a lice that was the carrier of the Typhus fever. It proved right and during ww One they had came up with the idea to gas the lice. They gassed on the Balkan, in Turkey and in China. Red Cross, english and american officials was involved. This was a major breaktrough so of course the medic of the whole world was interested. The lice comes with war and bad hygiene, so that was one reason it took so long to find the source. You just don’t find Typhus lice laying around.
    Typhus is a fever, not a sure death sentence, the medic say 10 to 40-50 percent dies from Typhus fever. They really don’t know and how should they really. The lice bits you and you start scratching and now the lice feces get inside your body, now you got Typhus fever. Next thing you get diarrhea, you can’t take in any or very little nutrition. You body is at high alert so where do it get nutrition from? The body fat, the body start to consume the body fat. When the body fat is gone, the body starts to consume the muscles.
    If you survive you are a living skeleton. If you die you are a dead skeleton and that is exactly what every single dead is in all those camps and the all died from Typhus fever.
    Just look at the bodies, they are all skin and bones and they died from Typhus fever. The one that is driving the caterpiller is a jew. He did that for propaganda.
    “ALAN JACOBS (THE CONCENTRATION CAMP OF BERGEN-BELSEN) 1945”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8F2UP4NXg8
    As i wrote, there were gas chambers abundant and this is how they work. Zyklon-B is a bug spray, you can buy it at your convenience store, just ask for bug spray. If you empty on in your kitchen all the flies will die and you will feel a little dizzy (if you have any lice they will also die). Zyklon-B is a highly explosive cyanid gas. If you empty three bug sprays in your kitchen and lit a match you are history. The alleged “gas chamber” in Auschwitz is five steps from the furnace.
    Germany was the worlds most advanced industrial nation at the time and they would place a “gas chamber” five step from the furnace and then fill up the “gas chamber” with high explosive gas?
    It happend just as it’s told, the train comes in, out of the train and men and women are seperated. The reason is easy to understand. First they had to take of all their cloths befor going in to the real gas chamber, you don’t force naked women togheter with naked men. After the delousing in the gas chamber next step is a hot shower to get rid of any leftovers from Zyklon-B. Meanwhile the cloths, shoes, luggage and the train is deloused other gas chambers, I told you there were many gas chambers.
    Zyklon-B kills the lice but not the lice egg. The lice lays the eggs in the hair. The only rational way to deal with this problem is to give everbody a haircut, and that the germans did. To a man to be shaved to the skin is something you can get over, but to the women it must been a trauma. But what choice did the germans have? If one lice or one egg got thru then they would have a Typhus epidemic.
    Most people who did get gassed diden’t understand what it was all about. They were scared and of course tried to avoid the whole thing. But then again, what choice did the germans have? If one lice or one egg got thru then they would have a Typhus epidemic. Those who refused was forced to do the haircut and some of course were forced into the gas chamber at gunpoint. But what choice did the germans have? If one lice or one egg got thru then they would have a Typhus epidemic.
    The west europa did not have Typhus lice, the east europa had Typhus lice. Poland was the border and Auschwitz wa chosen becauce all the railways went truh Auschwitz.
    The gas chambers did NoT have anything to do with the jews, every single person coming from the east to the west was gassed including the germans. They were gassed because the Typhus lice must be killed. There is nothing more to it. The horror tales that only jews was gassed is a plain lie.
    The simple truth is that the germans gas chambers saved life by the hundred thousand, if not by the millions.
    Two month before the war ended the Typhus fever hit Bergen-Belsen, and the reason why is that for some reason the germans missed to gas a trainload of people and there the Typhus was. If the germans haden’t missed to gas that trainload there would never been those horror pictures we all know. When the english took over Bergen-Belsen mid April 1945 there was 5.000 dead, mostly from Typhus. The next two months another 9.000 died, and they all died from Typhus fever.
    There were no deliberate starvation of the prisoners. What happend was that the transportationsystem brook down in the end of the war. There was food but the germans had to cut the rations. The week prisoner got robbed from their food, which of course killed some who might lived. The winters during ww2 was extremely could, among older people those winters are known as the War Winters. Why the dead diden’t have any cloths or shoes was because the other prisoners had taken them.
    Horrible pictures yes, but it is NoT what we are told they are. The total dead in Bergen-Belsen was 14.000 – not one million or hundreds of thousands – but 14.000. The same number is also the case in those camps that had a Typhus epidemic. But that is not proof of any industrialised mass killing.

  22. After the war the Red Cross published a 1.600 page report. That is One-Six-Zero-Zero pages. That Red Cross report claimed that a total of 270.000 jews had died in all camps, of all courses during the ten year the camps was in use under Hitler. After the war some two million germans was deliberatly killed by the Allied. Search the book “Other losses”. It was civilian germans that where killed, women, children, old people and men at all age. Many of those camp commanders were jews.
    There was 500.000 jews in Germany and Austria. 50 to 65 percent of them had emigrated, all according to jewish sources. According to the jews census there was 14 million jews in the whole world. According to the same source there was 15 million jews after the war. This is what the jews themself says. 1988 there was 18+ million jews in the whole world. Today 4,5 million jews has reparation from Germany as “survivor”.
    14 – 6 = 8, of them are 4,5 million “survivor”, that leaves 3,5 million jews who was never under Hitler’s jurisdiction. That is more jews than there was in America at the time. Credibility ZERO!
    Do you know how many jews there are in the whole world 2008 according to the jewish census? 13 million jews. That is minus five million jews sense 1988. Really, if the jews even can’t count the jews in the world with modern technology, how can they be so dead sure just six million jews died during ww2?
    How many dead jews? Pick any number.
    http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/plaques/
    Germany wanted to get rid of the jews and the zionist jews wanted the jews to emigrate to Palestine, so they worked togheter to do just that, make the jews leave Germany and all of Europe for Palestine. The problem was that most jews diden’t want to go to Palestine, so the zionist jews “helped” Hitler by …
    “By using the new atheist exile politics they [the Zionists] provoked and increased anti-Semitism in Europe which led to the Second world War. . . The worldwide boycott against Germany in 1933 and the later all-out declaration of war against Germany, initiated by the Zionist leaders and the World Jewish Congress. . . ” — Rabbi Schwartz, New York Times, Sept. 30, 1997
    “In 1937 Eichmann had visited Palestine on the formal invitation of a Zionist official.”
    http://www.real-debt-elimination.com/real_freedom/Propaganda/New_World_Order/nazis_and_zionists.htm
    The simple truth is that zionist was the only allowed party except the nazi party. The zionist jews worked closely togheter with the nazis before and during the war.
    The Transfer Agreement is Edwin Black’s compelling, award-winning story of a negotiated arrangement in 1933 between Zionist organizations and the Nazis to transfer some 50,000 Jews, and $100 million of their assets, to Jewish Palestine in exchange for stopping the worldwide Jewish-led boycott threatening to topple the Hitler regime in its first year. (Black is a jew)
    http://www.transferagreement.com/
    How many dead jews? Pick any number.
    http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/plaques/

  23. After the war the Red Cross published a 1.600 page report. That is One-Six-Zero-Zero pages. That Red Cross report claimed that a total of 270.000 jews had died in all camps, of all courses during the ten year the camps was in use under Hitler. After the war some two million germans was deliberatly killed by the Allied. Search the book “Other losses”. It was civilian germans that where killed, women, children, old people and men at all age. Many of those camp commanders were jews.
    There was 500.000 jews in Germany and Austria. 50 to 65 percent of them had emigrated, all according to jewish sources. According to the jews census there was 14 million jews in the whole world. According to the same source there was 15 million jews after the war. This is what the jews themself says. 1988 there was 18+ million jews in the whole world. Today 4,5 million jews has reparation from Germany as “survivor”.
    14 – 6 = 8, of them are 4,5 million “survivor”, that leaves 3,5 million jews who was never under Hitler’s jurisdiction. That is more jews than there was in America at the time. Credibility ZERO!
    Do you know how many jews there are in the whole world 2008 according to the jewish census? 13 million jews. That is minus five million jews sense 1988. Really, if the jews even can’t count the jews in the world with modern technology, how can they be so dead sure just six million jews died during ww2?
    How many dead jews? Pick any number.
    http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/plaques/
    Germany wanted to get rid of the jews and the zionist jews wanted the jews to emigrate to Palestine, so they worked togheter to do just that, make the jews leave Germany and all of Europe for Palestine. The problem was that most jews diden’t want to go to Palestine, so the zionist jews “helped” Hitler by …
    “By using the new atheist exile politics they [the Zionists] provoked and increased anti-Semitism in Europe which led to the Second world War. . . The worldwide boycott against Germany in 1933 and the later all-out declaration of war against Germany, initiated by the Zionist leaders and the World Jewish Congress. . . ” — Rabbi Schwartz, New York Times, Sept. 30, 1997
    “In 1937 Eichmann had visited Palestine on the formal invitation of a Zionist official.”
    http://www.real-debt-elimination.com/real_freedom/Propaganda/New_World_Order/nazis_and_zionists.htm

  24. The simple truth is that zionist was the only allowed party except the nazi party. The zionist jews worked closely togheter with the nazis before and during the war.
    The Transfer Agreement is Edwin Black’s compelling, award-winning story of a negotiated arrangement in 1933 between Zionist organizations and the Nazis to transfer some 50,000 Jews, and $100 million of their assets, to Jewish Palestine in exchange for stopping the worldwide Jewish-led boycott threatening to topple the Hitler regime in its first year. (Black is a jew)
    http://www.transferagreement.com/
    How many dead jews? Pick any number.
    http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/plaques/

  25. The Red Cross report is wrong, flat out.
    The Holocaust survivor thing is apparently in part a scam, and a lot of folks who are not survivors are on the list to get the cash.
    After the war there were careful scientific studies done by historians, demographers and population experts all over the world. These peer reviewed studies are what came up with the 6 million figure. There were 3 million Jews in Poland, and 90% of them were killed. That gives 3 million right there. Not that many German Jews were killed – only 200,000.

  26. The simple truth is that zionist was the only allowed party except the nazi party. The zionist jews worked closely togheter with the nazis before and during the war.
    The Transfer Agreement is Edwin Black’s compelling, award-winning story of a negotiated arrangement in 1933 between Zionist organizations and the Nazis to transfer some 50,000 Jews, and $100 million of their assets, to Jewish Palestine in exchange for stopping the worldwide Jewish-led boycott threatening to topple the Hitler regime in its first year. (Black is a jew)
    http://www.transferagreement.com/
    How many dead jews? Pick any number.
    http://www.zundelsite.org/english/antiprop/plaques/

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